ram upgrade and overclocking

[clutchy]

Ram Upgrade and a little overclock musings

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So i've been running the same computer for basically the last year, year and a half and i'm getting a little bored.

It's not that i don't love my computer it does everything i want it to do well, but every once in a while i get the urge to make my computer a little unstable, i.e. overclock it and tinker a bit.

I have a barton 2500 and some old crucial pc2100 ram. So my question is basically.

How would say getting some pc3200 low latency ram and pumping my FSB up to 200 instead of the current asynchronous 166FSB and 133 ram timings effect my system? I think it would push my barton to 2.2ghz versus the current 1.83ghz. I did a silent conversion on my pc awhile back so i have 4 panaflo low low rpm 80mm fans in my case including the fan on my CPU. I also have the dual fans in my power supply. So my computer is almost completely silent not sure if having a low rpm fan on my heatsink is going to be enough. Oh and it's the silent boost heatsink, but the 80mm that came with it wasn't quiet enough so i replaced it with a panaflo.

Is there any advantage to getting this ram "low latency"
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-220-006&depa=1

vs. this "higher latency" ram
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-145-440&depa=1

Thanks for the advice. here are my specs
Also would it help going back to a dual channel memory config?

barton 2500
an35 Ultra, shuttle board NForce 2
768 megs of pc2100, 3 sticks so no dual channel
9600xt
WD 120gig SE
various other unimportant drives...

just need opinions

[Nep-Toon]

:whisper the links arent working.

personally i dont think there is much difference. between the latency of the ram.

a friend of mine once said the higher latency is easier to overclock and can handle more. i dont think that it's true.

my 2 cents

[Nastradamus]

im not sure if AMD acts like INTEL but heres what i know abou Intel and ram.

WHen you pump up the FSB on INTEL it causes the ram to work harder right.. so that causes my 3200 PC ram to want to work like lets say 3500 or higher. SO that means that when if the ram cant handle the extra boost in FSB then ur gonna fail boot up.

So what i had to do for a while.. to boost my CPU frequency i had to reduce the default setting on my ram from 400mhz dual chan.. to 320 so as i pumped up the FSB and pump up the ram from 320 mhz instead of 400 mhz.. i would get the max 384mhz on my ram instead of a desired 460mhz on the ram. Now im not sure if it was faster to run with my ram at 384MHZ and have my CPU speed at 3.1ghz. Or to have it at 2.7ghz and 400 mhz dual chan.. i just ran it with it over clocked.

Because my PC3200 ram was designed to run at 3200 .. without a over clock then any more id be stresing it. So what i did was sell tha piece and bought PC4400 sticks. Thus causing my ram to continously run at 400mhz Dual channel with the higher CPU frequency.

maybe confusing but as your FSB goes up.. so does ur MHZ on ur ram... if your ram cant thandle it .. it will crap out. PC3200 is designed to run at 400mhz. Lets say.. PC4400 is designed to run at 550mhz i think.. so the higher the better gives u more room to over clock.

if ur confused or im confusing.. ill try to answer by some questions :)

[clutchy]

thanks for the replys. Yeah i've been building computers for the last 5 years. My techie site hasn't been too helpful so i posted here.

i get the ram timings and stuff, but the main question was, is it worth the upgrade?


btw low latency pc3200 will run at much higher timings than high latency 3200 because you can raise the timings on the low latency ram and the chips will clock up higher.


i still don't know what to do.



AMD's chips are double pumped.
Intel's p4 is quad pumped.

so 133 fsb is 266 on AMD chips and 533 on a p4

my current chip runs at 166 fsb or 333
but my ram runs at 133 or 266 ddr.

so when i say i want to run pc3200 ram

this would mean bumping my FSB up from 166 to 200 or 333 to 400

which would increase my cpu speed from 1.83ghz to 2.2ghz. The ram would also run synchronously with the chip, instead of currently running slower asynchronously.


just musing over the potential gains of such an endeavor.

[Sprinklerhead]

You're always better off bumping up the FSB as high as it's stable and then adjusting the CPU speed after that. Faster FSB means faster times for data to be transmitted from memory to cpu, etc.

[Mr.Furious]

You should definately be able to get that 2500 up to 3200 speeds. I have my barton 2500 overclocked and I just have some crappy pc3200 value ram. Just set the fsb to 200 and see if its stable. If not up the vcore a little bit and then see if its stable. Just watch your temps.