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kanedale
10-24-2002, 07:29 PM
Live in San Fran and have a bright yellow ninja 250... Do mostly city riding, but am starting to enjoy some twisty roads. Want to learn how to do emergency stops and avoidance swerves, but don't know the right way to practice without dumping the bike while learning.

Great Site here!

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Deeter
10-24-2002, 07:33 PM
:welcome to BARF!
insyder
10-24-2002, 07:46 PM
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Silver!!!
Big D
10-24-2002, 07:56 PM
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unixgal
10-24-2002, 09:05 PM
:newbie

Keep the rubber side down !!!!

tin :twofinger
Port4mance
10-24-2002, 09:38 PM
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Max Smiley
10-24-2002, 09:39 PM
start slow to practice 15mph max. anyone got an extra msf booklet? they used to come with new bikes, I shoulda' saved it for the barf newbs like for barf library or something. dangit.

:welcome
ChopStx
10-24-2002, 10:47 PM
:welcome to :barf

...lol, my MSF booklet has been sitting in the back seat of my car since july... :cool
YanaBanana
10-25-2002, 12:26 AM
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The advanced MSF course covers stops on turns, swerving, and more beyond-basic maneuvers. Enjoy!
kanedale
10-25-2002, 01:10 AM
Well I think I have the stopping from 15 down... When I stop agressively from 70 I always either slide the back out a tad or sometimes even endo the rear tire. The term unintentional stoppie comes to mind... Seems like the faster I slow down the more weight transfer I get to the front and the less I can brake with the rear. Anything over moderate pressure to the rear slides the tire. In agressive stops is >90% of the braking done with the front tire, or are there things I should be doing suich as shifting my weight back to provide more weight over the rear tire?

A minor back fishtail at the last 10 ft of a stop is not a big deal to me, just doesn't inspire much confidence that I am stopping the bike to its best ability...
budman
10-25-2002, 07:58 AM
Welcome to :barf

Enjoy :twofinger

Try skipping the back brake in quick stops...the front becomes so weighted that is is basically useless. As far as the back end coming up..not much you can do..means you are on the brakes..Try easing into the brakes for a split second and that should help keep the back down..

Good luck

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JoeBar
10-25-2002, 09:27 AM
:newbie kanedale!

Check these out:
CMSP (http://www.cmsp.org/)
Bay Area Motorcycle Training (http://www.motorcycleschool.com/)
Motorcycle Safety Foundation (http://msf-usa.org/)

Swerving, braking, turning,... are part of both basic and experienced training courses.
tiltedworld
10-25-2002, 10:54 AM
:newbie :Port

If you want a copy of an MSF book I think I have one at home somewhere. Come to the SF socials on Wed nights (check socials section) and I'll pass it on to ya if ya want it. PM me when you're coming and I'll bring it.

Sounds like you are on the brakes about as hard as you can if your lifting the rear wheel. Like Budman said skipping the rear brake in that kind of situation might be good because it is pretty useless. Also fishtailing at even 10 mph can cause a drop in an emegency situation , by high siding the bike by releasing the rear before you're stopped, but probably not you because its so slow.
mrtnz
10-25-2002, 12:23 PM
Welcome to BARF! You'll love it here!

Contact/PM Enchanter or Deeter. They are MSF instructors. They teach the the MSF Advanced Rider Course which teaches one how to do emergency stops, avoidance swerves and all that good stuff. I took the course last month. AWESOME!

Come to the SF Wed BARF Meet! Details are at the Social Gatherings section. See you soon!
Baptistro
10-25-2002, 12:25 PM
:newbie brother :twofinger

Hit up the SF meets on Wed nights and ask the folks in person, you may even get some practice on the night ride
magyarbetyar
10-25-2002, 05:24 PM
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magyarbetyar
10-25-2002, 05:24 PM
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DRZ
10-27-2002, 10:14 AM
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