** Donut Shop Forum Needed **

[motorman4life]

This post serves two purposes:

1) To ask Steve to seriously consider adding a Donut Shop Forum for asking cops questions about laws, tickets and letting us cops clue all of the other BARFers in on new trends, laws, policies and enforcement activities that may significantly impact you as a motorist or more specifically as a motocyclist.

2) (FOR EXAMPLE) To let everyone know there is a huge "click-it or ticket" campaign going on nationwide. Maybe you have heard commercials on the radio or seen them on TV, but his is a really big campaign that had a kick of on May 3rd and will continue through May 31st, 2005. Each county and city was offered funding ($$$) for overtime to increase enforcement of seatbelt and child car-seat laws. So, be sure to click-it when you are in you cage and let your freinds and family know there is an all-out effort to get $85 (first offense fine) out of each and every un-belted citizen in the country, this month (budget balancing maybe?). Details at www.buckleupamerica.org (http://www.buckleupamerica.org/)

Soooo... Other than the extra cops (both motorcops and cruiser cops) on the street writing lots and lots of tickets, it should be good times for motorcyclists until June 1st.. as long as you have a helmet on and keep your front wheel on the pavement, you will likely go pretty much unnoticed or find officers preoccupied with the un-belted cagers. YMMV.

[Triple Seven]

Not wearing a seat belt is so 1950's. You gotta be a utter moron not to.

[Silver5656]

i think this would be cool

[auntiebling]

"click it or ticket" hahaha

i think they'd get more attention calling it "wear your fucking seat belt retards" cuz honestly, comercials sound the same to me.

good idea on the new forum though.

[rocketbunny]

Ooh - good idea!!! Brash for Mod!!!!!

[xgambit]

im all for the new forum. that LEO thread is just way too long.

[rsrider]

Suspect: Listen cop, I pay your salery.
Sgt. Joe Friday: Yeah, and I'm about to earn it.

I wonder if we would get any insider info on where the popo is going to be patroling?

[sasquatch]

How long before the LEO thread will make the General section un-searchable?
Stephen

[Cheetah]

Good idea I wonder why it's not implemented earlier.
It took me a couple days to read the 40+ pages LEO thread. There're some great infos in there but I can't remember the exact page #. It'd be nice to be able to scan each topic like other forums.

[silversvs]

Originally posted by motorman4life
there is a huge "click-it or ticket" campaign going on nationwide. Maybe you have heard commercials on the radio or seen them on TV, but his is a really big campaign that had a kick of on May 3rd and will continue through May 31st, 2005. Each county and city was offered funding ($$$) for overtime to increase enforcement of seatbelt and child car-seat laws.

Gotta love grant money. I'm on board for 44 hours of overtime to ticket those who did not click it. :)

Hell yes, give us a LEO section. We'll take on all questions and provide some humor.

[Triple Seven]

it's a good idea as long as all participants (members here) are on equal grounds. the minute leo's start pulling power moves it's gonna be a bad idea.

[motorman4life]

Originally posted by Triple Seven
it's a good idea as long as all participants (members here) are on equal grounds. the minute leo's start pulling power moves it's gonna be a bad idea.

Power moves?? Get a grip. We are members here, just like you.
Power moves? ROFLOL. A little paranoid 777?

Besides, we get that out of our system on the streets messing with stunters <grin>.

The other day, I took a police motorcycle in for repair and the tech took it for a road test and I could hear the siren 3 blocks away! When he got back, he was totally manic. He admitted he could not resist the "power" ..he was like, "Damn man, how do you control it?" I told him "..they beat it out of us at the academy, but seriously, any rush wears off after you realize it is a job. I try to treat people the way I would want to be treated." He said, "Now I know why the rookies are such d!cks.. man, I would be ruthless!" I answered, "That's why you are a mechanic and not a cop."

[xgambit]

so like, who would police that forum?

[Triple Seven]

Originally posted by motorman4life
We are members here, just like you.


That's all i need to hear. You've my blessings. :)

[Hooli]

While we're all here, can we get a petition going granting us permission to reach inside cagers' rides, take their cell-phones and shove them up their backsides if they're caught chatting and driving?

Thanks for listening.

:teeth

[silversvs]

Originally posted by xgambit
so like, who would police that forum?

IA

[rumpofsteelskin]

If there are a sufficient number of LEOs on the board to make a "donut shop" category feasible, I don't see why this should be at all controversial. Perhaps if we all attend the upcoming BARF fundraiser (TBA soon by Hawkgirl and/or cat_in_sf) Steve will respond accordingly (hint, hint). Last I heard, Steve was interested in forging greater ties between BARF and law enforcement.

[Climber]

Originally posted by Triple Seven
Not wearing a seat belt is so 1950's. You gotta be a utter moron not to.
Some would say that you gotta be an utter moron to ride motorcycles. ;)

Back on subject... I think such a forum subject would be a great idea! Seems like it'd be easier to look up things if it was un a subject rather than a thread.

Brash strikes me as the kind of guy who would have no problem moderating.

[Triple Seven]

Originally posted by Climber
Some would say that you gotta be an utter moron to ride motorcycles. ;)

this is true! :cry :laughing

[Rel]

Originally posted by xgambit
so like, who would police that forum?

The Police....silly....

Do we remember: Who Watches the Watchmen?

Maybe we could have a spot, where LEO's could identify the agency's they are with.... For specific questions, and policy for specific departments....

Doesnt do a lot of good for a city cop to field a CHP question, and vice versa...

[tiltedworld]

Originally posted by silversvs
IA

:laughing :cry :laughing

[xgambit]

and then, they can tell us where all the speed traps are...and...

then they can post inciminating photos of fellow officers engaged in immoral acts, like office dave taking a a gram or two from the evidence locker, or officer jim taking some bribes from the hookers working the market street cinema, or officer larry piloting an aircraft laiden with 200 kilos of cocaine across the border...

it would be an awesome forum!

[m0t0_ryder]

Originally posted by motorman4life
as long as you have a helmet on and keep your front wheel on the pavement, you will likely go pretty much unnoticed or find officers preoccupied with the un-belted cagers. YMMV.

Soooo... a rear wheel in the air is OK?

j/k

I like your idea!

Originally posted by rumpofsteelskin
Perhaps if we all attend the upcoming BARF fundraiser (TBA soon by Hawkgirl and/or cat_in_sf) Steve will respond accordingly (hint, hint). Last I heard, Steve was interested in forging greater ties between BARF and law enforcement.

Need/want more info on this one!

When.
Where.

I'm in (if not out touring somewhere).

[motorman4life]

Originally posted by m0t0_ryder
Soooo... a rear wheel in the air is OK?

3/4 of the yahoo-squids I stop can barely pull a friggin' wheelie. On Thurdsday, I followed one clown about a 1/2 mile while he kept trying.. he finally got it up for a few feet and came *crashing* down hard. Absolutely pathetic. I think it scared HIM more than anyone.

We stopped to talk 'cause I wanted to get is autograph. I asked him, "Were you having bike problems or do you just suck?" He repied, "I just suck." "Good job. Press hard, three copies." Oh, and he had no M1 or even a learner's permit.. <beep><beep><beep> (that's the tow truck backing up to sling his '87 gixer 750).

I doubt it, but if he is on this board.. I checked and your bike is still in lock up.. at $60 a day. In a few weeks, you'll owe more than it is worth!

~Officer Friendly

[Blue Buddha]

Originally posted by motorman4life
We stopped to talk 'cause I wanted to get is autograph. I asked him, "Were you having bike problems or do you just suck?" He repied, "I just suck." "Good job. Press hard, three copies." Oh, and he had no M1 or even a learner's permit.. <beep><beep><beep> (that's the tow truck backing up to sling his '87 gixer 750).

I bow to your obvious seniority. My best was:

10-15: I know my rights! You can't arrest me in my garage!
Me: If you had stopped a mile ago, I would have arrested you there.
10-15: This is a violation of my civil rights! I know my rights!
Me: Okay, what are your civil rights?
10-15: (LONG pause)
I know my rights!

(It got better at the jail, but that would be too long a post)


Sad, huh?

~Young pup

[Mortifer]

So, everyone needs to email Steve every day till he caves in and gives barf a LEO forum. (PM's go unanswered).

[Jakemate]

Originally posted by Hooli
While we're all here, can we get a petition going granting us permission to reach inside cagers' rides, take their cell-phones and shove them up their backsides if they're caught chatting and driving?

Thanks for listening.

:teeth

Unfortunately, the click it or ticket campaign negates that. In order to properly insert an object into a drivers rectum, you must first remove the driver from the car. Breaking the window with an elbow is easy, but dragging them through it is impossible; that gadamn seatbelt keeps the fuggers purdy well in the car.

[motorman4life]

Originally posted by Triple Seven
That's all i need to hear. You've my blessings. :)


Okaygutes Dreiergruppe Sieben, ohne Ihren Segen können wir nicht fortfahren!

That roughly translates to; "Great Tripple Seven, we weren't going to do it without your blessing!"

I'm practicing my German for the new po-po forum!
Zeig heil! :laughing

[Triple Seven]

Originally posted by motorman4life
Okaygutes Dreiergruppe Sieben, ohne Ihren Segen können wir nicht fortfahren!

That roughly translates to; "Great Tripple Seven, we weren't going to do it without your blessing!"

I'm practicing my German for the new po-po forum!
Zeig heil! :laughing

your pretty fiesty arent ya. that's ok, im used to fiesty cops. being the son of a top Superior Court Judge here in San Mateo County and all.

Oh im 1/2 German too. Woot.

[cardinal03]

The truth is another forum section takes money and time. If Steve has the time i'd like to see the following:

1. Steve gives us an idea of what it'd cost to add another forum.
2. We have a "Leo-Forum Fundraiser"
3. Once we provide the funds, Steve takes the time to provide us with the forum.

How about it :tsc?

[motorman4life]

How about replacing a dead forum.. any forum over a year old with <1000 posts would be a good candidate..

The "Random Question" forum could be converted in about 2 seconds.. okay, maybe 3 seconds. For free!

The cruiser forum is pretty dead. Who paid for that one? Why not scrap it?

[R3DS!X]

10-15 is a guy in custody for thoes who dont know 10 code.

[Triple Seven]

Agreed.

Here is some real truth to the matter. I've ran forums on websites since 1998. In regards to this forum: BARF is based off Vbulletin (www.vbulletin.com). This software costs less than $200 to purchase, which was already done long ago. It will cost NOTHING to create a new forum. There is no increase in bandwidth usage with a new forum, and thus no cost. As far as time is concerned, to create a new forum will take less than 120 seconds. Log into the admin control panel, add a forum, give it a name, pick it's category and add a moderators name, done. I can recreate this entire website in less than 10 minutes. There are numerous useless forums here, like Quote of the day, and as stated Random Question. As well as the 2 "sponsors" forums. All these would better serve this community if they had more purpose, and it seems that motorman (what's your real name?) has a great idea. I support it. And please no one try to tell me different about the time and cost to add a forum, I know what I am talking about.

[R3DS!X]

truth speaks from the mouth of triple seven

[Iszlandsnow]

Ah yes..let me break out the popcorn when that section opens. Thread revival and bashing at its finest.

Here are some popular CHP threads:

* CHP are D*#cks! * CHP Officer Rodrigues sighting?? * The big bad CHP * God Damn CHP wont leave me alone!! * Reckless CHP
* CHP Squid! * 3 runners on 9 today! *Poll: Do you thinks CHP do profiling riders from forum? * Argghh ****en CHP!!! * U guys know that CHP is checking out this site? * Cops, cops, cops..on 9..front side * CHP let me down. *CHP quota time?? * Where's the CHP when you need them?

And for the local P.D.'s and Counties:

*Why dont cops wear gear? * pulled over for blue turn signals?
* Jackass cops * Gettin Tickets. How about you? * who was it that destroyed their bike today in concord while running from the cops? * Bike Got Impounded Today By ... * What is so hard about plates, signals and mirrors? * Warning! Dirty Pig on Skyline! * Morbid cops....... * Don't speed around town...got a BS ticket today (argh!) * do cop crackdown on r6 super bike? * wtf bike coppa * ATTN: Milpitas LEO's * Berkeley Cops * Lazy LEO's...our tax $$$'s hard at work! * Squid gets arrested for running on "COPS" * Blue LED's For Rear Blinkers? Ok or Not OK * F'ing Berkeley cops

And some threads that make you wonder:

105 in a 65 ......need some help

What's the $$$FINE 4 Parking in Handicap Walkway?

What's up with this? (2 points for a wheelie?!?!)

Gave a CHP the finger & got written up for 22111B

Running from the cops

Help! Got busted practicing standups



To my brothers in blue, tan or green, have fun with this. Granted there are some good threads, but if im gonna be annoyed, I should be on the clock. :x

[01 929RR]

I never feel safe around cops. I never thought I'd feel the same way ONLINE. Hope your not a cop from Miplitas. Back to the subject, changing a dead forum sounds like your best bet. Wouldn't it be a little weird asking a cop about something illegal you might have done though?

[Jakemate]

Originally posted by 01 929RR
I never feel safe around cops. I never thought I'd feel the same way ONLINE. Hope your not a cop from Miplitas. Back to the subject, changing a dead forum sounds like your best bet. Wouldn't it be a little weird asking a cop about something illegal you might have done though?

I used to feel the same way. I think it was the fact that they had a gun and I didn't. Now that I have some LEO friends I hang out and vacation with, I have realized that they are just regular people. People are generally flawed, it's really a hard thing to ask anyone to be perfect. Most cops realize that.

[Climber]

Originally posted by NoTime2Ride
I used to feel the same way. I think it was the fact that they had a gun and I didn't. Now that I have some LEO friends I hang out and vacation with, I have realized that they are just regular people. People are generally flawed, it's really a hard thing to ask anyone to be perfect. Most cops realize that.
My girlfriend was a LEO for years and still is in LE. I can tell you from all of our friends that the vast majority of LEO's are really good people, with many of the same dreams and enjoyments as the rest of us.

But there is a difference which they live with on a daily basis that sets them apart in a similar way to nurses and doctors. While most of us see the world as a friendly and idealistic way, they have to deal with the consequences of the side effects of human nature in all of it's worst forms.

I won't get into the crime part because that's a whole other area, but in terms of consequences to actions they have to clean up the pieces after accidents and worse, they have to tell the families that their son, daughter or some other relative won't be coming home, ever.

So when you see someone driving fast through a neighborhood, they may see what was left of the little girl that was run over and dragged for 200 feet (this was the worst one for my girlfriend) and remember the absolute agony of the mother when they had to tell her.

When you see someone splitting lanes way to fast you might think that there goes an organ donar, but they see the organs and brains lying on the road and are haunted by the pain the family went through.

We talk about what should be done about these kids that get a fast bike as their first bike, but they get blamed for letting the kid go too fast even though there was nothing they could have done to prevent the kid from wadding their bike and mangling themselves.

Before anybody wants to get critical of LEO's they need to first understand why they act like they do, and in the vast majority of the cases you will quickly learn that they were doing exactly the right thing (or very close to it under the circumstances).

Like any other field, there will be the rare bad apple who may have had to scrape up one too many idiots off the road but for the most part they're good people and they are doing the best they can to keep people safe and let them have fun as long as it's within reason.

[kiltwearinfool]

Originally posted by cardinal03
The truth is another forum section takes money and time. If Steve has the time i'd like to see the following:
1. Steve gives us an idea of what it'd cost to add another forum.
2. We have a "Leo-Forum Fundraiser"
3. Once we provide the funds, Steve takes the time to provide us with the forum.
How about it ?

So as has been abundantly evidenced, a new forum would cost all of $0.

That said, I still agree with holding a fundraiser. Steve has spent a lot of his own time and cash on this entire board. Not enough people are contributors to the effort.

You want a LEO forum? Be a contributor. Money Talks.

[reynolds_brad]

I’ve always had mixed feeling about Cops.

Even when its been a few hours/days/weeks of riding with both wheels on the ground at speeds near the posted limits, I see a black and white and my heart starts pounding and I freeze up like he is out for me. Ill stay like that until he is out of sight. Even if im no where near my bike or car. I see a cop and I freeze up. It sucks.

On line though they seem pretty cool. There is something different about having them on the board here. I say give them there own forum for communication purposes, just keep out of my sight on the street. You guys freak me out.

[Climber]

It's your guilty conscience, probably not dissimilar to the feeling most boys feel when they see their parents the next morning when they've just started whacking off and can't get it out of their mind that their parents just know what they were doing the night before. :laughing

[deaconblues]

Originally posted by Iszlandsnow
Ah yes..let me break out the popcorn when that section opens. Thread revival and bashing at its finest.

Here are some popular CHP threads:

* CHP are D*#cks! * CHP Officer Rodrigues sighting?? * The big bad CHP * God Damn CHP wont leave me alone!! * Reckless CHP
* CHP Squid! * 3 runners on 9 today! *Poll: Do you thinks CHP do profiling riders from forum? * Argghh ****en CHP!!! * U guys know that CHP is checking out this site? * Cops, cops, cops..on 9..front side * CHP let me down. *CHP quota time?? * Where's the CHP when you need them?

And for the local P.D.'s and Counties:

*Why dont cops wear gear? * pulled over for blue turn signals?
* Jackass cops * Gettin Tickets. How about you? * who was it that destroyed their bike today in concord while running from the cops? * Bike Got Impounded Today By ... * What is so hard about plates, signals and mirrors? * Warning! Dirty Pig on Skyline! * Morbid cops....... * Don't speed around town...got a BS ticket today (argh!) * do cop crackdown on r6 super bike? * wtf bike coppa * ATTN: Milpitas LEO's * Berkeley Cops * Lazy LEO's...our tax $$$'s hard at work! * Squid gets arrested for running on "COPS" * Blue LED's For Rear Blinkers? Ok or Not OK * F'ing Berkeley cops

And some threads that make you wonder:

105 in a 65 ......need some help

What's the $$$FINE 4 Parking in Handicap Walkway?

What's up with this? (2 points for a wheelie?!?!)

Gave a CHP the finger & got written up for 22111B

Running from the cops

Help! Got busted practicing standups



To my brothers in blue, tan or green, have fun with this. Granted there are some good threads, but if im gonna be annoyed, I should be on the clock. :x


Oh damn, what'd you do, index the whole forum? :laughing

Yah I know it sounds like all that happens is people whine and moan and complain, but a lot of us see those threads and give the standard reply "You ****ed up, now own up."


Besides which, who's to say your respective department(s) isn't willing to pay you for surf time if you spend it answering questions? Write it up as 'community relations' and get paid (just stay out of Photos, or anything with a NWS link on it...)




As for folks feeling wierd about posting a question about something potentially ticket-worthy... wouldn't you rather get the question answered here, than get to PAY to find out the answer later?

[faz]

I am all for a LEO forum. The local LEOs that take part on this forum have been more than helpful to the rest of the riders on this forum. And I agree, that LEO thread is way way too long.

I can, however, see how Steve being hesitant into creating an independant forum for just LEO purposes. After all, this is a motorcycling forum, and many "fun" motorcycling activities (most of which I am incapable of doing) are frawned upon by the local laws and regulations. Having a LEO section can take away the attraction for new "fun" loving riders that may want to join this board, and that can be like shooting yourself in the foot, if your ultimate goal is to create one of the biggest active "motorcycling" boards.

[rumpofsteelskin]

Originally posted by faz
Having a LEO section can take away the attraction for new "fun" loving riders that may want to join this board, and that can be like shooting yourself in the foot, if your ultimate goal is to create one of the biggest active "motorcycling" boards.

I see your point, but there's an easy way and a hard way for new riders to find out about the consequences of having _too much_ fun. This proposed forum would be the easy way.

[deaconblues]

Not sure that it would be all that different from now. After all, we do have LEO's reading (and posting) in all sorts of places. Been that way for years. Someone posts up their latest exploit, and people say, "Hey buddy, you DO know that Johnny Law is reading this, right?" Uhhhhhh...

This would just set aside a section where people could ask questions and bench-race with the cops. If the stunters, street racers, bling enthusiasts etc are worried about their 'fun' getting stepped on, then they should just stay out of that section.

[Junico]

Originally posted by motorman4life
Power moves?? Get a grip. We are members here, just like you.
Power moves? ROFLOL. A little paranoid 777?

Besides, we get that out of our system on the streets messing with stunters <grin>.

The other day, I took a police motorcycle in for repair and the tech took it for a road test and I could hear the siren 3 blocks away! When he got back, he was totally manic. He admitted he could not resist the "power" ..he was like, "Damn man, how do you control it?" I told him "..they beat it out of us at the academy, but seriously, any rush wears off after you realize it is a job. I try to treat people the way I would want to be treated." He said, "Now I know why the rookies are such d!cks.. man, I would be ruthless!" I answered, "That's why you are a mechanic and not a cop."

You've been on the forum for how long? And already you want to push someone elses creation around and make it your way? With all due respect, you need to check yourself and your power issues.

Now, I know that you mean well, and that it would be informational and possibly beneficial to others, but still, the way I've seen you project yourself on this board exuberates the typical bully, higher than thou, hyperextrovert, cop attitude.

Sorry man, that's just how I see it. I know I'll be on your shit list as another "person that doesn't understand what cops have to face every day". But I'm ok with that. How about sending SteveCo some money as a contribution to his site, I'm sure he'd be ok with that as well.

[01 929RR]

Now, I know that you mean well, and that it would be informational and possibly beneficial to others, but still, the way I've seen you project yourself on this board exuberates the typical bully, higher than thou, hyperextrovert, cop attitude.

I got that exact same vibe from this guy.:troy :newbie

[rumpofsteelskin]

The best donut shop I've ever eaten at is Top Pot Donuts on Capitol Hill in Seattle. Nothing else even comes close.

[faz]

I just want to make sure I am not misunderstood: I am all for another forum for LEOs.

But, I understand that: The way it is right now, this is a motorcycling board with riders from various backgrounds, including LEOs. Having a LEO specific forum will be an official endorsement, a definite link between this site and local law enforcement agencies. This can be a good thing, for law abiding citizens like myself who can't pull a wheelie for the life of them, or their biggest crime is going 15 mph over the posted speed limit ... but it can be a deterrent for the rest of the "fun" loving community.

You can argue that it will be better that way, and I agree with you, but us agreeing on it or not may not serve the ultimate goal that the founder "may" have in mind.

[Brash47]

Good point Faz.
As the creator of a thread that went mad....I'm piping in a little here. I would like to see a section where we could answer questions without you guys having to sift through countless pages of info before hand.

On the other hand....

If it is too much of a pain to create that section....then since I made the thread anyway....IM a changin the rules lol.

If you dont want to go through the thread looking to see if that question was asked, then dont....just ask the quest and we (meaning everyone that has been helping MUCH more than me lol) will be happy to answer that question again and again as it comes up. That was the idea I had in mind when I created that thread.

It doesn't matter how many times you ask the question...I don't care. It will get answered each time it's asked. I know some people will say...LOOK THROUGH THE POST FIRST!....but don't worry about. Someone will give you the answer you need.

In the end....this is a public motorcycle forum. I like to help out when I can...but this is not a police board. I live by advice I was given as a youth and in the Marines....KISS...Keep It Simple Stupid...so whatever is easier for the people that run this site to do...is what we should do.

brash

So, either way, we will provide info when you need it. We will do the best we can, but remember, it still is based off training and experience....so you might get 2 answers...

[motorman4life]

Originally posted by Junico
You've been on the forum for how long? And already you want to push someone elses creation around and make it your way? With all due respect, you need to check yourself and your power issues.

Now, I know that you mean well, and that it would be informational and possibly beneficial to others, but still, the way I've seen you project yourself on this board exuberates the typical bully, higher than thou, hyperextrovert, cop attitude.

Sorry man, that's just how I see it. I know I'll be on your shit list as another "person that doesn't understand what cops have to face every day". But I'm ok with that. How about sending SteveCo some money as a contribution to his site, I'm sure he'd be ok with that as well.

How long I've been lurking here and how long I have been posting under one ID or another is totally irrelevant. If it is your position that you have to rack up 800 posts on one user ID before you can contribute anything worthwhile or simply ask for a positive change in the “creation” to make it more user- friendly, then you are a sadly mistaken.

I’m not sure what “power issues” you are taking issue with.. as I have stated in the past, I am just another BARFer here. As to how I have “projected” myself here on the board.. If you cannot tell when I’m joking with someone on the board and when I am not, that’s your problem. I have been posing here since November 2002 under 2 other IDs. I guess now that I’ve “outed” myself as a cop with this new ID, all of the sudden <gasp > I’m a bully, hyper-extrovert a$$hole cop.. it seems to me you have a problem with cops, because you never had a problem with me before, ol’ buddy.

If you know for a fact that many other people (contributors and non-contributors alike) have been asking for a LEO forum for a long time and you agree that I "mean well" (and that it would be both informational and beneficial to others, etc..) that what in the hell are you griping about?

BTW, I don’t give a crap if you don’t understand what I deal with every day.. I never asked you or anyone else to understand me or sympathize with my “plight.” :hand

REALITY CHECK: It’s a friggin’ job dude. I am NOT my job and my job is NOT me. If you want to see me thorough some naïve or ignorant stereotype, that’s fine. But, don’t assume that is right. For one, you don’t even know if I REALLY am a cop, just that I have insinuated that I am.

Brash started a thread that was made sticky and has racked up what?? ..almost 2000 posts in about 2 weeks. Seems pretty damned popular. I was just asking for a place to help out BARFers.. offering them advice, expertise and insight into pending and current laws, enforcement activities, policies, trends and attitudes among LEOs and how they may impact motorcyclists.. excuse the hell out of me for asking/offering. I’m all for giving Steve and his moderator staff their due.. but, “forums cost money” is a cop out (pun intended).

Faz wrote, “..Having a LEO specific forum will be an official endorsement, a definite link between this site and local law enforcement agencies.” That would be like saying having a “Stunters Rock” forum is an official endorsement of stunting. It is really just a place for stunters to communicate/brag and people to contact stunters to ask them questions about stunting. What is wrong with giving equal time to the law-and-order crowd?

Lastly, I agree with Brash: “In the end....this is a public motorcycle forum. I like to help out when I can...but this is not a police board.” Amen Brash.

[faz]

Originally posted by motorman4life


Faz wrote, “..Having a LEO specific forum will be an official endorsement, a definite link between this site and local law enforcement agencies.” That would be like saying having a “Stunters Rock” forum is an official endorsement of stunting. It is really just a place for stunters to communicate/brag and people to contact stunters to ask them questions about stunting. What is wrong with giving equal time to the law-and-order crowd?

Lastly, I agree with Brash: “In the end....this is a public motorcycle forum. I like to help out when I can...but this is not a police board.” Amen Brash.

Absolutely nothing wrong with it. And as I said, (and I knew my comments would be misunderstood), I am all for it, for a simple fact that it will allow me to do a useful search on a subject (vs. now that a search points me to the 2000 post thread... pretty useless.) But , I understand that stunting, racing, sport touring, dirt biking, are all part of motorcycling, while LEO related issues/questions are mostly NOT motorcycle related. Yes, we can all benefit from it, the same way we could benefit from a cooking forum, a relationship forum, a parenthood forum, and ...

Again, simply due to the nature of the search function on this site, I am all for having a searchable forum for LEO/Motorcycle related issues, but I can understand why it "may" not be in line with the overall direction of this site.

BTW, just to clarify, I regularly go to General, Photos, Garage (sometimes), Classifieds (bikes and sometimes auto), and Kitchen sink. An LEO forum would definitely be on my list of forums to check on a daily basis.

Brash, as always, deserves a :thumbup

[twisted TLR]

Hi boyz and girls! Just passing through... And of course.. "No contacts.. NO COMPLAINTS!" LOL:laughing :cool

[Iszlandsnow]

Originally posted by twisted TLR
Hi boyz and girls! Just passing through... And of course.. "No contacts.. NO COMPLAINTS!" LOL:laughing :cool

Hahahaha...you mean "Practical not Tactical" :laughing

3% @ 50 here you come ! :laughing

[Junico]

Originally posted by motorman4life
How long I've been lurking here and how long I have been posting under one ID or another is totally irrelevant. If it is your position that you have to rack up 800 posts on one user ID before you can contribute anything worthwhile or simply ask for a positive change in the “creation” to make it more user- friendly, then you are a sadly mistaken.

I’m not sure what “power issues” you are taking issue with.. as I have stated in the past, I am just another BARFer here. As to how I have “projected” myself here on the board.. If you cannot tell when I’m joking with someone on the board and when I am not, that’s your problem. I have been posing here since November 2002 under 2 other IDs. I guess now that I’ve “outed” myself as a cop with this new ID, all of the sudden <gasp > I’m a bully, hyper-extrovert a$$hole cop.. it seems to me you have a problem with cops, because you never had a problem with me before, ol’ buddy.

If you know for a fact that many other people (contributors and non-contributors alike) have been asking for a LEO forum for a long time and you agree that I "mean well" (and that it would be both informational and beneficial to others, etc..) that what in the hell are you griping about?

BTW, I don’t give a crap if you don’t understand what I deal with every day.. I never asked you or anyone else to understand me or sympathize with my “plight.” :hand

REALITY CHECK: It’s a friggin’ job dude. I am NOT my job and my job is NOT me. If you want to see me thorough some naïve or ignorant stereotype, that’s fine. But, don’t assume that is right. For one, you don’t even know if I REALLY am a cop, just that I have insinuated that I am.

Brash started a thread that was made sticky and has racked up what?? ..almost 2000 posts in about 2 weeks. Seems pretty damned popular. I was just asking for a place to help out BARFers.. offering them advice, expertise and insight into pending and current laws, enforcement activities, policies, trends and attitudes among LEOs and how they may impact motorcyclists.. excuse the hell out of me for asking/offering. I’m all for giving Steve and his moderator staff their due.. but, “forums cost money” is a cop out (pun intended).

Faz wrote, “..Having a LEO specific forum will be an official endorsement, a definite link between this site and local law enforcement agencies.” That would be like saying having a “Stunters Rock” forum is an official endorsement of stunting. It is really just a place for stunters to communicate/brag and people to contact stunters to ask them questions about stunting. What is wrong with giving equal time to the law-and-order crowd?

Lastly, I agree with Brash: “In the end....this is a public motorcycle forum. I like to help out when I can...but this is not a police board.” Amen Brash.

Whatever dude. If you've been "lurking" here since 2002 and only now decide this place could benefit with your origional LEO section, then maybe it is YOU that is sadly mistaken. Where was this good idea back then?

And second, why hide the fact that you're a cop for so long? Why pose as "just another member" all this time, then all of a sudden bust out with "I'm a cop, we need a cop thread, listen to me, my word is the law, gimme." Make a distinction here now. I'm not questioning your credentials, but rather your motives.

And to me, your motives seem more about self-gratification and dominance rather than helping. That's just my own opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

And yes, Amen to Brash. He is a true enthusiast outside his job. You want to talk about "I'm not the job and the job is not me", look no futher than Brash. I enjoy BS'ing with him and hearing his stories at the Monday meets we go to. It's good to see a guy who's proud of what he does yet is humble about it. By the way, what meets do you go to? Maybe I can come BS with you, and buy you a Jamaba Juice.

Anyway, I'm not going to bicker with you. I hope it works out and you do get what you're asking for. I think it would be informational and beneficial. Good luck.

[01 929RR]

Sounds like you got multiple personalities.

[SBrocker]

Originally posted by Junico
Whatever dude. If you've been "lurking" here since 2002 and only now decide this place could benefit with your origional LEO section, then maybe it is YOU that is sadly mistaken. Where was this good idea back then?

And second, why hide the fact that you're a cop for so long? Why pose as "just another member" all this time, then all of a sudden bust out with "I'm a cop, we need a cop thread, listen to me, my word is the law, gimme." Make a distinction here now. I'm not questioning your credentials, but rather your motives.

He already stated he IS just another BARF member. If he had a non-cop id tag for a long time, is that posing? He made it clear that he has never stated he was a cop and obviously he is not officially representing his department or agency or whatever (if he is a cop).

Even you yourself said previously that a cop forum "would be informational and possibly beneficial to others." Now you are questioning his motives?

There has always been an obvious anti-cop bent here in BARF and I know there are guys here that are cops and they never let on. It is clear that since one simple thread has garnered more traffic than about 3/4 of the board (combined) in just 2 weeks that there is an obvious void here than needs to be filled.

I for one, don't know any cops and I would appreciate having a place to ask questions and get information from the professionals that are out there writing tickets and investigating the accidents. I agree with Motorman, there is a stunter forum here for all of the organ donors, why not have a place for the law-and-order crowd to get some equal time?

Maybe people here are too immature to figure out when someone is offering their help. If I were I cop, I'd stay stealth in BARF!!

[StuntrHuntr]

Originally posted by SBrocker
Maybe people here are too immature to figure out when someone is offering their help. If I were I cop, I'd stay stealth in BARF!!

Amen! :tsc

I think Motorman just wants abuse being outspoken and offering his assistance here. Now you see why I just lurk and don't offer to help.

If you want advice, get a lawyer. If you have a CVC question, get a CVC or look online. Who has time to field questions from squids that know damned well when they are breaking the law and just don't want to own up to it?

I'm not sure what bothers you guys more, knowing cops are reading the forums or the possibilty that we might be human and not robots? "Oh, he was a really nice cop, he waived/smiled/nodded at me!" "Oh, he was a dick, he gave me a ticket for speeding!" Get a grip!

Motorman is right, it is just a job, not a species.
[Back into lurk mode]

[VillageIdiot]

I would be willing to chip in some extra dough to get a donut shop forum..

Furthermore I know personally there is four or five at times in the group I ride with here on BARF.

Finally I think the LEO's offer valuable advice, guidance and as well provide a good example for the other riders on this board.

Carry on Moto:thumbup

[VillageIdiot]

Originally posted by 01 929RR
Sounds like you got multiple personalities. ???Pretty hard to shut off what you've seen and done. Hard enough to do that with the family when you get home much less when somebody harrasses you for providing the advice "they" asked for just because the individual only wants to hear something warm and fuzzy. It seems to me I live in a society of self absorbed professional victims who tend to want to throw blame everywhere rather than look in the mirror and see where the true problem lies. Motorman's inability to be politically correct is truely irrelevant to me, whether or not he is genuinely trying to assist this community is another. My theory is, "If you don't want the truth.....Dont ask".....

IMO

[JackTheTripper]

Originally posted by Junico
Yadda yadda yadda

Hi. :)





Just wanted to point out something you may not know since I see your join date is Sept 2003. In the early days of BARF the board was put together not just by steve but by all of the founders, mods and non-mods who are now regulars. It wasn't the "creation" of one person but rather a group of riders from all over the area, all walks of life, all races, all sexes providing input to make it what it is today. And it's still changing due to decisions made by Steve and from input he receives.

Also wanted to point out this. Ever noticed the "ads" that run next to the quick reply box? Here's one of them...

Thanks for BARFing
Bay Area Riders Forum has grown incredibly since Jan 2002 thanks to the participation of its membership. Thank you for being part of the fun!

Your Opinion Matters
Please don't hesitate to offer your comments, feedback, and suggestions any time by sending me a PM or an email anytime.

Cheers!
-Steve

It seems that motorman4life just had the idea and instead of going straight to steve with it he wanted to discuss it. Let him. Join in on the discussion. On topic that is. But why you feel you needed to attack someone because they had an idea I don't know. Maybe it's cause he's a cop and you have issues with them. Don't take it out on one guy cause he had an opinion.

I know you're going to think I'm getting on case or something but I'm really not. I'm just wondering what prompted that reaction.

[Junico]

He said:
and letting us cops clue all of the other BARFers in on new trends, laws, policies and enforcement activities that may significantly impact you as a motorist or more specifically as a motocyclist.

and
Besides, we get that out of our system on the streets messing with stunters <grin>.

and
"Damn man, how do you control it?" I told him "..they beat it out of us at the academy, but seriously, any rush wears off after you realize it is a job.

and
3/4 of the yahoo-squids I stop can barely pull a friggin' wheelie. On Thurdsday, I followed one clown about a 1/2 mile while he kept trying.. he finally got it up for a few feet and came *crashing* down hard. Absolutely pathetic. I think it scared HIM more than anyone.

and
"Good job. Press hard, three copies." Oh, and he had no M1 or even a learner's permit.. <beep><beep><beep> (that's the tow truck backing up to sling his '87 gixer 750).

and
~Officer Friendly

and then says
For one, you don’t even know if I REALLY am a cop, just that I have insinuated that I am.


so when you say
He made it clear that he has never stated he was a cop and obviously he is not officially representing his department or agency or whatever (if he is a cop).

I don't follow your logic. This isn't about not having a LEO forum. I am for that idea, as I said previously. I just said he needs to check his power issues and think about throwing SteveCo some cash to get what he's asking for. We should have had a LEO section a long time ago, IMO.

But I do get annoyed, and hence post my opinion, when a cop (or someone insinuating to be a cop) starts bragging about locking other motorcyclists up and writing tickets. And if he really isn't a cop, is just another member, and was only insinuating he was, then WTF is that? If the advice given by him in his LEO forum doesn't come from a true cop, why even start this whole production?

BTW, welcome to BARF. You should introduce yourself in the Newbies section as well. You chose to go confrontational with your very first post, I see. Your gonna fit in just fine! :thumbup

[deaconblues]

I think we just figured out who the marshal was in THIS town... :laughing


Thanks JTT.

Junico -- So far I fail to follow your 'logic' in that post of yours dissecting Motorman's posts.behavior. So far you're tilting at windmills from my POV, so STFU already unless you've got something better to say. :hand

[slowpoke]

No matter how much you tell someone that they should "click-it", they don't listen...:|

[01 929RR]

3/4 of the yahoo-squids I stop can barely pull a friggin' wheelie. On Thurdsday, I followed one clown about a 1/2 mile while he kept trying.. he finally got it up for a few feet and came *crashing* down hard. Absolutely pathetic. I think it scared HIM more than anyone.
Sounds like he was waiting to see if the guy would loop it. I real "To Protect & Serve" cop would have pulled him over immediatly so he wouldn't hurt himself or anyone else. But hey, he wants to HELP right.

[DanZX9R]

Originally posted by 01 929RR
Sounds like he was waiting to see if the guy would loop it. I real "To Protect & Serve" cop would have pulled him over immediatly so he wouldn't hurt himself or anyone else. But hey, he wants to HELP right.
If you wernt there STFU and let him do his job! he doesnt come to your office or job and tell you what you did wrong does he!
Motorman thank you for your idea I will vote for it if a vote comes up!!!

[01 929RR]

Damn your right, I'm sorry. I'm sure Fremont Cycle Salvage wants more parts.

[JackTheTripper]

Originally posted by DanZX9R
he doesnt come to your office or job and tell you what you did wrong does he! :laughing:laughing:laughing

I can see it now. "No. NO! What are you doing? The side you want to copy goes DOWN! It's the fax machine where the text side goes up. :rolleyes"

[slackjaw]

Originally posted by 01 929RR
Sounds like he was waiting to see if the guy would loop it. I real "To Protect & Serve" cop would have pulled him over immediatly so he wouldn't hurt himself or anyone else. But hey, he wants to HELP right.

... or maybe he was waiting to see if the rider smartened up and stopped trying to lift the front in view of a cop - perhaps he was willing to let the squid go if he could justify doing so in any way.

The point is, you don't know. You don't know this guy, and you probably aren't a cop, so you have no perspective.

It has been my experience that the LEOs on this forum provide lots of good info. Let's not discourage that, m'kay?



Shit, if I were a LEO, I might only lurk if I were here. I certainly don't blame him for having kept his occupation to himself in the past. Are the rest of us going to be required to disclose our occupations?

Jeesh...

[01 929RR]

"Fuck, you caused a paper jam."
or better yet
"Press hard theres three copies."

[DanZX9R]

Hello my name is Dan and I'm a flooring contractor!!
You dont need to know that unless you need flooring then you ask in the sink and I respond to your question!

[slackjaw]

Originally posted by DanZX9R
Hello my name is Dan and I'm a flooring contractor!!
You dont need to know that unless you need flooring then you ask in the sink and I respond to your question!

Sorry, that comment was meant for some other BARFer who remarked that it was wrong for motorman to have "concealed" that he was a cop.

And you are correct - I don't need to know, nor do I have a RIGHT to know, that you are a flooring contractor. None of my business. Add to that the stigma that cops get, especially in forums like this one, and it is even more understandable why motorman might have been reticent to mention it.

Most folks don't have a bone to pick with flooring contractors (though I imagine some do), but probably most young testosterone filled stunters do...

[DanZX9R]

Originally posted by slackjaw
Sorry, that comment was meant for some other BARFer who remarked that it was wrong for motorman to have "concealed" that he was a cop.

And you are correct - I don't need to know, nor do I have a RIGHT to know, that you are a flooring contractor. None of my business. Add to that the stigma that cops get, especially in forums like this one, and it is even more understandable why motorman might have been reticent to mention it.

Most folks don't have a bone to pick with flooring contractors (though I imagine some do), but probably most young testosterone filled stunters do...
:laughing :laughing I was responding to the other thread also!
and us dang flooring contractors are just nuts any way

[Jakemate]

Originally posted by DanZX9R
:..........and us dang flooring contractors are just nuts any way

Thats from huffing glue...........

[DanZX9R]

Originally posted by NoTime2Ride
Thats from huffing glue...........
Thats for the Labor I use the finishes for my fix!!!

[skater1on1]

Originally posted by Junico
He said:


and


and


and


and


and


and then says



so when you say


I don't follow your logic. This isn't about not having a LEO forum. I am for that idea, as I said previously. I just said he needs to check his power issues and think about throwing SteveCo some cash to get what he's asking for. We should have had a LEO section a long time ago, IMO.

But I do get annoyed, and hence post my opinion, when a cop (or someone insinuating to be a cop) starts bragging about locking other motorcyclists up and writing tickets. And if he really isn't a cop, is just another member, and was only insinuating he was, then WTF is that? If the advice given by him in his LEO forum doesn't come from a true cop, why even start this whole production?

BTW, welcome to BARF. You should introduce yourself in the Newbies section as well. You chose to go confrontational with your very first post, I see. Your gonna fit in just fine! :thumbup I agree with you Junico. I felt queasy and sick to my stomach when I read his bragging of bringing another squid down. This is definately the wrong forum to brag about impounding another rider's bike.

[SBrocker]

Originally posted by skater1on1
I agree with you Junico. I felt queasy and sick to my stomach when I read his bragging of bringing another squid down. This is definately the wrong forum to brag about impounding another rider's bike.

Funny you felt queasy and sick to your stomach. I didn't!

But then again, I have a valid motorcycle license and I don't pull wheelies or other stunts (particularly in front of 5-0). I figure if you are that stupid, you deserve to have your bike towed. I didn't see that he was arrested, like someone had mentioned earlier. He shoulda been. Idiots like that are why our insurance rates are double what they should be! I'm sure if he had no license, he had no insurance. I shouldn't have to pay for uninsured motorist coverage, but I do because if asshat squids like that.

I say, chalk one up for the good guys! I didn't take it as bragging either. If you felt queasy and sick to your stomach, um, maybe you should get your license, grow up and get your head screwed on straight before one of your juvenile stunts turns your multi-colored Nicky Haden knock-off into a brain bucket!

[motorman4life]

Originally posted by StuntrHuntr
I think Motorman just wants abuse being outspoken and offering his assistance here. Now you see why I just lurk and don't offer to help.

Yeah, maybe that's my alterior motive.. I just want to be abused by BARFers for offering to help them out with information, etc.. I'm a glutton for punishment. After a day of writing tickets and telling people they are at-fault in accidents, I need to come home and be told I'm pushy, overbearing and have "power issues" for simply offering my insight and assistance.

Well, it sounds like Junico has me all figured out.. and well enough to put words in my mouth that I didn't say! "I'm a cop, we need a cop thread, listen to me, my word is the law, gimme." Those are his words, not mine.

Originally posted by Faz
But , I understand that stunting, racing, sport touring, dirt biking, are all part of motorcycling, while LEO related issues/questions are mostly NOT motorcycle related. Yes, we can all benefit from it, the same way we could benefit from a cooking forum, a relationship forum, a parenthood forum, and...

I was actually referring to motorcycle related stuff Faz.. like advice/guidance on the vehicle code, pending laws, accident investigations, bike modifications, not how cooking and parenting may somehow relate to law enforcement or motorcycling. I am certain I had mentioned some various LEO topics that would be on-topic and of value to BARFers (maybe check the FIRST post in this thread?). Not that there aren't several forums on this board that have NOTHING to do with motorcycling; Auto, Residence, Kitchen Sink, Geek Speak, Quote of the Day.. But, you already knew that, didn't you?

Originally posted by abn375
Motorman's inability to be politically correct is truely irrelevant to me, whether or not he is genuinely trying to assist this community is another....
Un-PC is a good way to put it. Thanks. I have been accused of being many things and being un-PC is the one thing I will not deny. And you got it dead right, "If you don't want the truth, don't ask.." I think I might get a tattoo that says that!

BTW, thanks to ann375, JTT, StuntrHuntr (he must be a cop), slackjaw and SBrocker (and any others that may have missed) for your support. I hope you guys can get an "Ask a Cop" or "Donut Shop" forum here, 'cause I know there are a lot of BARFers looking for information and many that don't have cops as friends that they can go to with questions.. even those that do, find their friends may be lacking in the traffic arena because they are assigned to other police sub-specialties and can't be "bothered" with knowing the CVC and current policies or interpretations and how they may affect bay area motorcyclists.

[silversvs]

We have suggested the LEO forum for over a year. I've sent PMs and emails to Steve with no response. (This isn't a knock on Steve, I realize he is a busy guy with a real job too). It doesn't appear that the leaders of this site are interested in a LEO forum. No big deal to me. I continue to have fun with the ask a LEO thread. I get PMs and emails from members asking me questions off the boards, and I always answer them.

My main motivation is to have fun and provide my interpretation of what law enforcement is all about. I feel that every member of law enforcement should be involved in their communities in some way. One aspect of law enforcememnt is community education. Citizens Police Academies, DARE, traffic safety officers, etc are alll ways that agencies try to reach out to their communities and explain what we do. Community members who have been shown the light tend to better understand the job we do and are less likely to criticize officer's actions because they have a better understanding of why the officer took the action he/she did. Members of this forum may pick up information from one of us that may change the way they think about LEOS, or at least create a better understanding of the jobs we perform.

As for contributing money to make a new forum. No problem here. I have already donated over $200 to the site to keep it up and running. I've been here for almost three years and have enjoyed BARF the whole time.

In the meantime, continue to post questions on the ask a LEO thread and we will continue to answer them, even if they have been asked and answered already. Feel free to send PMs and emails off the board and I will answer those too.

Ride safe and pick your moments to get squidly. You never know who is behind you.

[Jakemate]

Originally posted by DanZX9R
Thats for the Labor I use the finishes for my fix!!!

Ahhhh, I see. The finish evaporates quicker, so you get a quicker high..................

[faz]

Originally posted by motorman4life

I was actually referring to motorcycle related stuff Faz.. like advice/guidance on the vehicle code, pending laws, accident investigations, bike modifications, not how cooking and parenting may somehow relate to law enforcement or motorcycling. I am certain I had mentioned some various LEO topics that would be on-topic and of value to BARFers (maybe check the FIRST post in this thread?). Not that there aren't several forums on this board that have NOTHING to do with motorcycling; Auto, Residence, Kitchen Sink, Geek Speak, Quote of the Day.. But, you already knew that, didn't you?


Yes, I did. And I mentioned the forums that I frequent, and the ones that I never visit.

You seem to be confusing my input to this thread with the other anti-cop ones.

I certainly hope this boad gets to loose some of its junk forums, and gets an ask LEO forum for reasons I mentioned earlier. However, I think I can see how that may not fit in an overall picture.

[tuxumino]

A LEO forum would make it easier to serach for previously answered questions.
I'm happy there are LEOs on this board, it gives me a glimpse into their mind so I can act accordingly when riding, kinda like the NFL officials visiting teams during training camp to go over rules and how there enforced. If I know the rules and how they will be enforced it's easier for me to bend them with out breaking them.
When I do get caught breaking them I can make the insuing interaction as quik and painless as possible, I don't need to compound a offside penalty with a personal foul.

[Rel]

Its a funny thing...... everyone wants to know why LEO's do what they do, and how they do thier jobs. And yet, when we tell everyone why we do what we do, and how we do it... people get pissed off. Oh, we're the big bad Po-Po, picking on the poor people of the great state......

All of the things the LEO's do, are up front, and out in the open. All the policies, and proceedures, are out there for the public to read. Its not a great mystery.

I'd answer any and all questions that I can, free of charge.....

I just want people to slow down, and not die on my freeways, highways, and roads...

Is that to much to ask?

Rant over.

[skater1on1]

Originally posted by SBrocker
Funny you felt queasy and sick to your stomach. I didn't!

But then again, I have a valid motorcycle license and I don't pull wheelies or other stunts (particularly in front of 5-0). I figure if you are that stupid, you deserve to have your bike towed. I didn't see that he was arrested, like someone had mentioned earlier. He shoulda been. Idiots like that are why our insurance rates are double what they should be! I'm sure if he had no license, he had no insurance. I shouldn't have to pay for uninsured motorist coverage, but I do because if asshat squids like that.

I say, chalk one up for the good guys! I didn't take it as bragging either. If you felt queasy and sick to your stomach, um, maybe you should get your license, grow up and get your head screwed on straight before one of your juvenile stunts turns your multi-colored Nicky Haden knock-off into a brain bucket! haha wow you know me soo well. Sure he shouldn't have been doing wheelies in front of a cop, sure he should have had a license. But do we really need to brag about it on a forum filled with motorcyclists who have made their fair share of mistakes and could easily put themselves in this guys shoes.

I am curious also why you directed your anti-stunting hatred at me. As if I was the guy doing all the aforementioned activities.

[deaconblues]

i think the key word there is 'bragging'.

You're ASSUMING he's bragging about sending someone's ride to bike-jail, or writing up a ticket.

More like, "guess what, here's where i have to actually earn my paycheck, and no it's NOT the fun part of the job."


The fact that it IS out in the open in the middle of a bunch of riders who may very well have done the same thing, that's where the value comes in. "hey guys, guess what? I had to impound someone's ride because they did A, B, and C. So if you all are planning on doing A, B, and C, fair warning, this is what happens." That's it.

[Iszlandsnow]

Originally posted by Rel
Its a funny thing...... everyone wants to know why LEO's do what they do, and how they do thier jobs. And yet, when we tell everyone why we do what we do, and how we do it... people get pissed off. Oh, we're the big bad Po-Po, picking on the poor people of the great state......

All of the things the LEO's do, are up front, and out in the open. All the policies, and proceedures, are out there for the public to read. Its not a great mystery.

I'd answer any and all questions that I can, free of charge.....

I just want people to slow down, and not die on my freeways, highways, and roads...

Is that to much to ask?

Rant over.


+ 56 !! I wish I had some mojo. :thumbup

[thebankman]

Let em ride without a seatbelt...just not in my car :hand

[F33rNoFish]

i've only read the 1st page so far, but from what i've read i think this is a good idea.

i'll read on...

[RickyHayden]

Originally posted by SBrocker
and get your head screwed on straight before one of your juvenile stunts turns your multi-colored Nicky Haden knock-off into a brain bucket!


Ahh had your eye on it and couldnt afford it eh?

Its ok the all black KBC will do fine!:rolleyes

[Dougmo531]

Originally posted by silversvs
We have suggested the LEO forum for over a year.

I've talked with Steve about this also. Maybe one day it will happen. Until then, BARF is still one of the better motorcycle forums out there!

[DanZX9R]

Originally posted by Dougmo531
I've talked with Steve about this also. Maybe one day it will happen. Until then, BARF is still one of the better motorcycle forums out there!
I talked to Dennis last night about this and Others this morning, to see if it can get put togather faster than normal!
All officers that want to go forward Please PM me with your ideas for a forum along with any base rules you think you should have and I will forward them to the super mods.

I will take a jelly filled please
Thanks for your Help
Thanks for protecting us!
Dan

[budman]

Who's Dennis :twofinger

This has merit for sure.. add it to the short list of :barf improvements...

:smoking

[EastBayDave]

Originally posted by xgambit
im all for the new forum. that LEO thread is just way too long.
agreed; search function would work better on a "forum" than a "thread?"

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[motorman4life]

To whom?? :confused

[silversvs]

To whom??

Originally posted by DanZX9R
I talked to Dennis last night about this and Others this morning, to see if it can get put togather faster than normal!
All officers that want to go forward Please PM me with your ideas for a forum along with any base rules you think you should have and I will forward them to the super mods.

[motorman4life]

Oh. I sent a PM too! :blush

[DanZX9R]

Welcome home!!