Single driver in the HOV lane

[JackTheTripper]

what kind of ticket is this? If you're in a cage durring commute time by yourself? does it count as a point on your record which will cause your insurance to increase or is it like a parking or fix it ticket where you pay the fine and it's not on your record.

Thanks.

[VTRweasel]

if I see you in the carpool lane by yourself I'm gonna toss a sparkplug over my shoulder and we'll see how that counts against you :flame

[Dragon]

One point: it is a mover

21655.8 Diamond lane/entering/exiting
21656 - 21662, 21662a, 21662b Improper lane use

here's a good listing of points

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/vioptct.htm#2cvc

[Dopesick]

not to mention the MINIMUM $271 fine. Get a bike or GET THE HELL OUT of the commute lane.

ps : VTR lemme know if you need more spark plugs. I've got a collection for moments like above.

[JackTheTripper]

I don't do it, I just wondered what all those assholes I see on a daily basis get when they finally do get caught.

[grandmastershake]

my brother got busted with one passenger coming to the bay bridge toll plaza and got a $400 fine for his first offense. ouch.that was 2 people in the car i wonder what one person in car must cost. notice that 271 min fine is MINIMUM. well signs every 3 feet in those lanes warn you. so i guess they have no room to complain when they get a stiff ticket.

[L-2]

Originally posted by JackTheTripper
what kind of ticket is this? If you're in a cage durring commute time by yourself? does it count as a point on your record which will cause your insurance to increase or is it like a parking or fix it ticket where you pay the fine and it's not on your record.

Thanks.
It depends. Around here, the common violation is VC 21655.5(b), which does not carry a point. In Santa Clara County, while the traffic school option may be offered, people should check with their insurance companies to determine if that particular violation would affect their rates, prior to paying and signing up for traffic school.

The latest fine I saw was $355...up from $345. Recently, I noticed southern Calif. freeways had "$345 min." signs posted. I suppose northern Calif. never got around to changing-out the older "$271 minimum" signs.

Just sitting in a carpool lane without the proper vehicle or proper-number-of-occupants may not, in itself, be a violation, if the driver actually makes a turn from the "carpool/HOV" lane at the next intersection. This generally applies to carpool lanes with intersections, like on Capitol Expressway or San Tomas Expressway where the right-hand lanes are the carpool lanes, crossing 4-way intersections.

Generally, when a fine is paid regarding a violation, the violation is on one's record. Whether the violation has a point-count is up to the DMV. Whether one's insurance premium rises is up to the insurance company.

Parking tickets are more apt to follow the vehicles, with bills made to the registered owners. Treat parking tickets as a separate subject.

[Dougmo531]

Originally posted by L-2
It depends. Around here, the common violation is VC 21655.5(b), which does not carry a point. In Santa Clara County, while the traffic school option may be offered, people should check with their insurance companies to determine if that particular violation would affect their rates, prior to paying and signing up for traffic school.

I didn't think a carpool violation was a mover or point on your driving record either. A lack of safety usually makes a violation a mover (running a red light, speeding etc...). Just being in the carpool lane by yourself isn't any more or less safe than if you had 2 or more occupants. Usually traffic school is offered to keep the point off your record. I don't think traffic school is an option unless the violation is a mover. Besides, why waste time going to traffic school for carpool when you could save that to keep a mover off your record!

[L-2]

Originally posted by Dougmo531
I didn't think a carpool violation was a mover or point on your driving record either. A lack of safety usually makes a violation a mover (running a red light, speeding etc...). Just being in the carpool lane by yourself isn't any more or less safe than if you had 2 or more occupants. Usually traffic school is offered to keep the point off your record. I don't think traffic school is an option unless the violation is a mover. Besides, why waste time going to traffic school for carpool when you could save that to keep a mover off your record!
Santa Clara County offers traffic school for the VC 21655.5(b) violation. Politically, I'll neither (read "cannot") agree/disagree on that issue.

[Trogdor]

Doesn't this violation just really piss you off? Here it is you are stuck in traffic, waiting because you are obeying the law, when dipshit comes past in the HOV lane riding solo getting ahead of all these other people. There is just something about that violation.

Now here is a related one. I have seen this in the BA often. When traffic backs up and slows, some idiots will cross over into the merge lane of an on-ramp to pass maybe ten cars before the merge lane ends. Bastards!

[b.rock]

I fucking hate that. :mad ^^^^ Get in line like the rest of us instead of cutting someone off and slowing us all down. Act in your car / on your bike as you would in person. You wouldn't do that at the grocery store (because I'd beat you to death with the handy copy of Weekly World News), so don't do it when it's dangerous!