Reclaiming a Racebike

[gsxrbabe]

All-

I know there is something called a "permit to move" that all of us with handbuilt/GP bikes should have to protect ourselves, but here is my situation:

I have a '94 Honda RS125 that is worth enough money that I'd like to see it back in my posession ASAP so that I can sell it (it's a "B-kit bike") as money is tight right now in lieu of my boyfriend's and now my own motor vehicle accidents. And now I am also afraid that the person who offered to fix it has now stolen it and is possibly parting it out.

The plan was for a now "ex" friend/fellow BARFer to help fix it up so I could sell it at the beginning of the AFM race season this year to finance my season; he picked up the bike from my garage at the end of January '05.

I have been asking about the bike for 4 months now, and he refuses to return any calls and emails. The last time I spoke to him about the bike he said "what bike?".

What should I do? The only proof I have that I own it is pictures of me racing it. I also have emails and voicemails from him mentioning the bike.

Maybe he is using it as a "tie" to me, as he was quite disgruntled when I dumped him and got "stalky" on me. I dunno. I would think someone who races for a local shop in the AFM/AMA would have more class than this, but it appears to not be the case; most of my friends tell me to write the bike off, but I am hoping there is some recourse for this type of situation.

TIA!

[dan p]

sent you an email with some info

[Brash47]

Was the bike registered to you through dmv in any way...if so, there is alot that can be done.

brash

[PantyBuncher]

stop making things so complicated. just post a 'date wanted' ad in the LEO forum. use, and discard as usual.

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by PantyBuncher
stop making things so complicated. just post a 'date wanted' ad in the LEO forum. use, and discard as usual.

AC, i don't understand the "date wanted" thing.....:confused
gimme a break here, i'm not used to this kinda thing and don't want to break the law.


brash- no form of reg, this is why the racer who has the bike said "what bike?" when i asked when he's dropping it back off.....
he knows it's a GP bike :mad

:cry

[captainchris13]

just call the police and show up at his door with them and some pics and the recordings...

make him prove he owns it. if nothing else it will get you a court date and he may just cough it up when the boys in blue are standing at his door.

YOu could file a small claims against him. but then the burden of proof is on you, and he could deny everything. Can you get a letter from the person you bought it from saying they sold it to you with a date? a bill of sale is enough proof of ownership (the pics of you on it help ALOT) for the cops.

chris

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by captainchris13
Can you get a letter from the person you bought it from saying they sold it to you with a date? a bill of sale is enough proof of ownership (the pics of you on it help ALOT) for the cops.

chris

good idea! i think i can probably track down the previous owner!

[Brash47]

Yes, thats a GREAT idea, also, if you've had any work done to it in a shop....find those receipts.

brash

[PantyBuncher]

i was just implying that you should simply ask one of the barf LEO's to help you out. obviously, the guy is just being a dick because you broke his heart, but would probably roll over the instant the law was involved. as well, if the guy is a barf'er, just shame him into giving it up. go on, what's his id ? or, how about you just go over there with your new boyfriend, RoundBoy. that ought to be scary enough to get results.

[JimE]

If it's an AFM'er then let the word get around. It's a small club and what comes around tends to go around. If anything it's satisfaction. At any rate any experienced 125er would pay maybe $1500 for a well sorted pre '95. That's about what I sold my '94 Works Sakurai kit bike for 3 years ago. Guess what I'm saying is it really worth the 3 race weekends of funds to deal with it? The racing community is pretty small and if you burn or get burned it gets around. Especially the small classes like the 125's. Your choice to take the legal route but it may be more satisfaction and less stress to just open your mouth and tell the truth to all the people he knows.

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by PantyBuncher
i was just implying that you should simply ask one of the barf LEO's to help you out. obviously, the guy is just being a dick because you broke his heart, but would probably roll over the instant the law was involved. as well, if the guy is a barf'er, just shame him into giving it up. go on, what's his id ? or, how about you just go over there with your new boyfriend, RoundBoy. that ought to be scary enough to get results.

well he called. but didn't leave a message. so he saw this thread. i'm sure his moderator "buddy" pointed it out :rolleyes
but andy is right.
he knows he's wrong, he knows the bike isn't registered and he is probably acting out of spite. who does this in the racing community, and when they know that they are holding on to something useless to them and important to someone else who really needs all the help they can get right now. it's selfish and looks pathetic.
hopefully he is either collecting back up the parts to return a running machine right now, or he is hacking up what's left and tossing it in the bay!



and i dunno where you get the new boyfriend stuff :laughing
the "new boyfriend" is in bed with a broken neck, pelvis, hip and knee......
plus mr. stalker already came by a couple months ago late at night to get an eyeful......

and another thing that's odd, i know he lives in sunnyvale, been to his work dozens of times, dated him almost a year, but he never let me come over to where he lived.....

[Roundboy]

is this Drama or is this guy really stealing your bike? I would bet after reading the thread he now will give you back the bike....and by DRAMA I don't mean you Alex....I mean the dude who's heartbroken and decided to hold your bike for ransom...

"Whoever you are dude....just give her bike back...."
and all will be forgotten

Roundboy has spoken.

[CykoKlr]

Originally posted by gsxrbabe


and another thing that's odd, i know he lives in sunnyvale, been to his work dozens of times, dated him almost a year, but he never let me come over to where he lived..... [/B]

His wife/live in girl friend would have been pissed, thats the only reason some one would hide his home.

[gsxrbabe]

sir round, you rock!
and you are correct- the only thing he has left of mine is this bike, cuz i am loooong gone!

cykoklr- mr. ktm.... didn't have a wife/live-in; seems that way, but i can spot that kinda situation 10 miles away. plus he was at my place way too often and we have alot of mutual "friends".

i guess i can bump this for now. i don't wanna turn this into a soap opera.....

BUT LIKE JESSE SAID: PLEASE JUST GIVE IT BACK!

[F4iChic]

I jus wanna know who it is :confused

[PantyBuncher]

<<the "new boyfriend" is in bed with a broken neck, pelvis, hip and knee......>>

that shit is all used up. trade it in on Roundboy. for a 12-pack, he'll do whatever you want. heck, he'd probably even have his way with your ex, just like in his avatar. that's proper payback for a bike thief anyway.

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by PantyBuncher
<<the "new boyfriend" is in bed with a broken neck, pelvis, hip and knee......>>

that shit is all used up. trade it in on Roundboy. for a 12-pack, he'll do whatever you want. heck, he'd probably even have his way with your ex, just like in his avatar. that's proper payback for a bike thief anyway.

thanks for the bump, andy :love

[PantyBuncher]

for a price, i'll do about anything, except pull the trigger. for that, i need a pretty good cause.



so, get your bike back yet ? or, are you reloading ?

like racing, you can either follow, or pass. you choose.

[silversvs]

It was already mentioned.

If you know where he works, call the police in that city. Ask for a "civil standby." The officers will meet you outside his work. They will accompany you to go chat with this guy while you ask for your bike back. The cops will not take sides. They will only be there to keep the peace. However, most folks cave when they see the boys and girls in blue. Simply ask for your bike back. If he refuses, have the officers explain 503 PC. If he still refuses to give up the bike, file a claim in small claims court. All you have to do is prove 51% that he had the bike and refused to return it. Receipts or a statement from freinds or former owner is likely enough to prove your case. In most cases, people don't want the police at their workplace. That might be enough alone to get resolution to your situation.

Good luck.

[RcrBoy]

My GOD Alex, don't you have enough shit to deal with lately? :wtf

Just send a private e-mail to all us 125 racers..........
We'll get her back for you :thumbup

And we promise to admin only the minimum amount of "love" to the perp ;)


:loco Mark :loco

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by RcrBoy
And we promise to admin only the minimum amount of "love" to the perp ;)

:laughing
you guys would prob change your minds when you get there!


no, i still don't have it back.

some people have no conscience.

or brains.


or...

[PantyBuncher]

Originally posted by RcrBoy
We'll get her back for you :thumbup

the bike or the 'boyfriend' ?

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by PantyBuncher
the bike or the 'boyfriend' ?

:green

the bike, please.

[MackeyStingray]

i'm sure his moderator "buddy" pointed it outOR maybe he still browses BARF and just happened on your thread? :rolleyes

any case, hope you get your bike back.

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by MackeyStingray
OR maybe he still browses BARF and just happened on your thread? :rolleyes


nah, he thinks barf is for retards and doesn't browse it.....

but however he came upon it, at least he sees it.....and it's not like anyone is saying "oooh, i think he should keep your bike".....

[RcrBoy]

Originally posted by PantyBuncher
the bike or the 'boyfriend' ?

Since when did "boyfriend" = girlfriend :confused

:loco Mark :loco

[antipathy]

Record all phone conversations if he calls you again.

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by antipathy
Record all phone conversations if he calls you again.

dudette, you have telepathy.......he just called......


i fear for the poor bike......instead of reading the manuals, which he also has, he "happened" to put in the wrong gas and oil :cry

[gsxrbabe]

actually, how do you record them? :confused



<i am apparently "ludicrous" now......>

[gsxrbabe]

yo, ktm....

where is my bike?

are you still busy putting lawnmower oil and pump gas in it AND at the wrong ratios like you mentioned the other day before hanging up on me?

the manuals you have are about $60/each.
unless you've lost them, i suggest reading them.

that's all.

sincerely,
~alex

[summitdog]

You could also have your attorney send him a letter. That often times makes people realize things are getting a little more serious.

[antipathy]

Originally posted by gsxrbabe
actually, how do you record them? :confused
I have a Sony digital micro recorder that I use for work dictation & school; its about the size of a small opened flip phone. Let me know if you'd like to borrow it.
I don't know about actual wire tapping but there is also the option of 3 way calling into your voicemail first so it is recording when you call the thief.

[deaconblues]

All parties to a recorded phone conversation must be advised of the recording in progress. This is why you hear "for quality and training purposes, this call may be recorded" when you call a customer service number.

that said, $15 at radio shack will get you a cute little dongle that plugs into your handset, and allows a direct tap for a recorder. none of this suction cup to the back of the handset BS anymore.

the digital recorders are great - usually the files are small enough to be emailed, which means getting a copy to an attorney (or saving it for record-keeping) is fairly simple.

[Roundboy]

Did you get the bike back or do I need to go buy some rocksalt and start loading up shells for the moss?

[wackyiraqi]

Originally posted by deaconblues
All parties to a recorded phone conversation must be advised of the recording in progress. This is why you hear "for quality and training purposes, this call may be recorded" when you call a customer service number.

That is correct—two-party consent is required in 12 states, including California.

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/

[Jakemate]

What city is the bike located in?

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by NoTime2Ride
What city is the bike located in?

sunnyvale.

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by summitdog
You could also have your attorney send him a letter. That often times makes people realize things are getting a little more serious.

i wish i had an attorney.
with everything that's going on (accidents, missing bikes, etc) i wish i was rich!

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by Roundboy
Did you get the bike back or do I need to go buy some rocksalt and start loading up shells for the moss?

another vote for rocksalt in the moss. awesome.

no, my little bike is still among the missing. and now it probably has an effed up engine i had just rebuilt because he tried starting it like a lawnmower.
:cry

[Jakemate]

Originally posted by gsxrbabe
another vote for rocksalt in the moss. awesome.

no, my little bike is still among the missing. and now it probably has an effed up engine i had just rebuilt because he tried starting it like a lawnmower.
:cry

:wtf like a lawnmower?

[PantyBuncher]

buy a six-pack, call roundboy, and get on with it.
you might need a sixpack for yourself too, depending on what roundboy charges you.

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by NoTime2Ride
:wtf like a lawnmower?

Originally posted by gsxrbabe
yo, ktm....

where is my bike?

are you still busy putting lawnmower oil and pump gas in it AND at the wrong ratios like you mentioned the other day before hanging up on me?

the manuals you have are about $60/each.
unless you've lost them, i suggest reading them.

that's all.

sincerely,
~alex


it's a two-smoke......runs motul racing oil + vp c-12 at 30:1

he said he got some redline oil and pump gas and mixed it 15:1

[Jakemate]

Originally posted by gsxrbabe
it's a two-smoke......runs motul racing oil + vp c-12 at 30:1

Right.
I was picturing wraping a piece of twine around the crank and pulling. c-12..... Yikes! You've got it setup for leaded?!?! Ungh.... Well, I don't think it would do much to it as long as it's not being rev'ed at speed. Would it? I dunno. No updates on it yet, huh?

<edit> "he said he got some redline oil and pump gas and mixed it 15:1"

I take that back.

[gsxrbabe]

:laughing jake

andy, you talk about "it" like it's a bad thing :laughing
but the prez still has some "use" left in him :p

[PantyBuncher]

seriously, get ON with it - posting here isn't getting it done.
find out where the bike is, and go GET IT. it doesn't appear to be rocket science, his 'buddies' on this board obviously know where he lives, or follow him home from work, whatever.

[Tri-me]

GSXR Babe, you have your PM's turned off. So I sent you an e-mail.

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by Tri-me
GSXR Babe, you have your PM's turned off. So I sent you an e-mail.

awesome! thanks for the kind offer!

i just thought of something to "get it done"....i'll send another email.....

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by PantyBuncher
seriously, get ON with it - posting here isn't getting it done.
find out where the bike is, and go GET IT. it doesn't appear to be rocket science, his 'buddies' on this board obviously know where he lives, or follow him home from work, whatever.

hid buddies are too lame to tell me; they won't get involved :rolleyes

the last part of your post is spot on, except i can't do it myself.....but i have help now :)

[954Rider]

If you knew you had hurt him before, why did you even give him the bike to fix in the first place? Sounds like just asking for trouble to me.

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by 954Rider
If you knew you had hurt him before, why did you even give him the bike to fix in the first place? Sounds like just asking for trouble to me.

true. but i didn't expect him to do something like this. he made it seem like an honest offer to help, and i ASSumed he was trying to make up for all the rotten things he did leading up to the breakup.
you live, you learn i suppose.

[gsxrbabe]

bump for the fun of it!

i'll be emailing you guys who sent me info offline soon....... ;)

[gsxrbabe]

While on a "why do people $hit on me tear", i called Mi...., err, the guy who "has" my racebike and made him agree to a date with a witness......AUGUST 20th, to return a fully complete and running RS125 as he is leaving for dakar, and if i say 8/20 i may see it by 9/20.......

somehow i think i should bet my 929 that i won't have it by either of those dates!

[NVR FNSH]

Get the bike NOW and deal with the damages/money to get it back in proper running order thru small claims. If he's leaving for Dakar you ain't gonna see shiat.....

On second thought 503 PC - Embezzlement would certainly get his attention. Go talk to the local PD.


Brian

[conrod]

Alex, since emails and voicemails don't seem to reach you.

Your bike has been transferred to me and has been sitting in my garage for the last couple of weeks, ready for collection or delivery, whichever you prefer.

Just let me know when you would like it back.

-Conrad

[gsxrbabe]

Originally posted by conrod
Alex, since emails and voicemails don't seem to reach you.

Your bike has been transferred to me and has been sitting in my garage for the last couple of weeks, ready for collection or delivery, whichever you prefer.

Just let me know when you would like it back.

-Conrad

:thumbup