tips on knee draging

[JAS510]

I figured out that stunting is not me. I can pull em but its more fun to hit the corner. Ya'll got any tips on form and how i can just put my knee down

--form and purpose

thx

[wstick1]

1st tip: Don't "try" to drag your knee.

[Robert R1]

Stick your knee out and keep leaning the bike over. Something is bound to happen.........

[ZXR400SP]

Go do some track days, it will come natural once you get comfortable.

[afm199]

Originally posted by Robert R1
Stick your knee out and keep leaning the bike over. Something is bound to happen.........

+4

[chrono-X]

lean all the way over, then hit the rear brake, you'll drag knee....and most likely other parts.

+5 to Robert R1, that's the correct way.

[HellFyre]

Ya'll are assuming a little too much. Nowhere in his question did he mention getting his knees down on a bike. In other words, go watch Brokeback Mountain and take it from there.

[JAS510]

so just keep hittin corners right!! Anything special i have to do to my bike to get it track ready.
I gotta 05 gsx-r600 oh and another question are all fuckers who own liter bikes cocky!!!?

[707Kawasaki]

Originally posted by JAS510
so just keep hittin corners right!! Anything special i have to do to my bike to get it track ready.
I gotta 05 gsx-r600 oh and another question are all fuckers who own liter bikes cocky!!!?


What I did what start hitting one corner that I felt confortable over and over again until I got confortable draggin a knee, and that was on my pig of bike, ZX6E. As far as liter guys go, I havnt meet any yet this is the ride from mothers day to Lake Berryessa notice im the only guy on the 600, and it was safe to say on the twistes I was a bit faster than the rest:laughing of course on the straightaways its like they arent trying.

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/threads/000/163/874/2461578-100_0868_600x449.jpg

[JAS510]

Nice pix. Yeup hittin the twisties i can keep up w/ em. I just cruise on the straights. Well thx for the tip man.

[DaveToo]

On the street?

First, block off both ends of the road. Then fill and steamroll all the potholes, sweep off all dirt, steamclean all oil and antifreeze. Erect deer-resistant fences. Do about 20 laps so that you know the road. Then stick your knee out and keep going faster until it touches down.

When you fall off the bike because you're hanging off like a monkey trying to touch your knee down, you look to the corner worker and give a thumbs-up, and wait for his yellow flag before you try to pick your bike up and move it off-line.

Oh, wait....

[JAS510]

hahahhahha...thass some funny shit...i got about 5million in my account..i'll go ahead and steam roll those pot holes and everything else mentioned.

[canyonrat]

Learn the road, then work on knee dragg'n skill. Ride the road about 50 times before you even start to think about putting your knee down. Pick one or two left corners on that road that are tight and have a slight up hill. Enter those corners with your shoulder. Be smooth on the throttle.

Those are just a few tips.

[707Kawasaki]

Personally I dont like to drag knee on the street. Every now and then on group rides when you hit a corner a little too hot you have to or get close to. Your gonna have to hug that corner, eathier that or go into the other lane:wow be carefull, its not that big of deal, doesnt automatically make you a better rider eathier. My first trackday I didnt even drag a knee, I was more concetrated on the speed and my lines to even start hanging off.

[markcr]

I'm thinkin' about buying a prothetic knee just to hang off my bike to look cool. :)

[markcr]

prothetic? shame... ;-) prosthetic

[christofu]

Get knee pucks 12 inches thick.

Oh, and come to a Zoom Zoom event and tell your instructor about your long held desire to drag your knee. They'll work with you all day to accomplish your goal.

Hint: it's not just a matter of sticking your knee out. You have to line up a lot of stuff to make it happen right: body positioning, throttle control, etc.

[Eisernkreuz]

Most people who are trying too hard to drag knee don't realize that if they just rode without trying to do that, they'd be so much faster and smoother. That and you look like a tool hanging your entire body off with your knee stuck out to the side in a 40mph turn :p

[JAS510]

lol@markCR. I thought it was a new word. n e ways, What is the purpose of sticking out your knee?

[redline]

Originally posted by JAS510
lol@markCR. I thought it was a new word. n e ways, What is the purpose of sticking out your knee?

I'd reccomend picking up one or more of those books on sport riding. They break down turning technique into steps and explain each part. The usual authors are:

Total Control: High-Performance Street Riding Techniques by Lee Parks

Twist of the wrist, by Keith Code

Smooth Riding the Pridmore Way by Reg Pridmore and Geoff Drake

You can buy them used for half off. Then, go to the track like they said above and tell them your dream is to drag knee. They really will work with you to get your turns down and you will improve a lot from a track day.

[JAS510]

THX REDLINE

[V4]

Sign up for a Track SCHOOL, a few of them from different instructors, then go to a track day and practice what ya learned....

Afterawhile, you'll find the ground is coming up to you when dragging your knee and start wishing for more clearance as your lap time goes down...

on the street, on a modern sprotbile, you don't even need to touch down .....

I see many of times people dragging knee while I'm cruising on my VFR going the same speed and wondering why they need to lean over so much....

even seen when a knee-dragging Highway Niner find himself in a messy situation when he found he's dragging knee and ran out of clearance on a decreasing radius turn.....

keep it on the track, mang...

[V4]

:wtf

my bad....I have no idea how I ended up posting in this section instead of the Kitchen Sink....

carry on foilks...

[chrono-X]

Originally posted by redline
I'd reccomend picking up one or more of those books on sport riding. They break down turning technique into steps and explain each part. The usual authors are:

Total Control: High-Performance Street Riding Techniques by Lee Parks

Twist of the wrist, by Keith Code

Smooth Riding the Pridmore Way by Reg Pridmore and Geoff Drake

You can buy them used for half off. Then, go to the track like they said above and tell them your dream is to drag knee. They really will work with you to get your turns down and you will improve a lot from a track day.

yea...or you can buy a ninja 250, since the bike leans over so damn easily, you'll drag knee on your first day at the track. Just be careful not to lowside on the star mazda turn in your 5th session.

check out this guy...
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5640/chrono28yx.jpg

[Enchanter]

Originally posted by V4
:wtf

my bad....I have no idea how I ended up posting in this section instead of the Kitchen Sink....

carry on foilks...

No post whoring in the Training Forum.
Seriously.

[JAS510]

Do you guys slide your rear tire as well?

[MrCrash]

Most people who learn to drag knees on the street do it with poor lines and technique. Good lines and technique require less lean angle and increase your margin for error.

With programs like Zoom Zoom, Keigwins@theTrack, and Pacific Tracktime, riders have the chance to get top notch instruction for minimal cost. Just a few years ago, the only true instruction available was at a big name school, for $300-500 dollars a day. If you want to be a faster, safer rider, it really is in your best interests to look into those opportunities.

Not to mention, it's a whole lot of fun!

[JAS510]

Man thats alot of money. I can see why folks do it in the streets!!!!!!!!!

[VillageIdiot]

Originally posted by JAS510
Man thats alot of money. I can see why folks do it in the streets!!!!!!!!! Is it really?

Impound: 5-1500
Reckless Driving: God only knows
Speeding: WOW what a good ticket for those speeds
Piching it: hospital, helicopter ride, ambulance

So lets say a cool 10 grand and I'm probably being generous.


or

Track day: 180 bucks
Gas to the track: lets say 70 bucks.
Trip to the grocery store for food: 20 bucks

You do the math.

[MrCrash]

Originally posted by JAS510
Man thats alot of money. I can see why folks do it in the streets!!!!!!!!!

Thunderhill days will generally run you $170-180. Buttonwillow days can be done for as little as $160. Reno Fernley, around $130.

A ticket at Skaggs for going 60 mph (which is an easy pace on that road) will run you over $500.

The total of the insurance premium increase over the next three years for being ticketed for speeding anywhere, probably even more than that.

With all the opportunities to go fast on the track these days, that sort of riding on public roads really doesn't make sense.

[JAS510]

Ok i guess not. Do i have to do anything special to the bike? Take any classes? if so, how much are the classes?

[MrCrash]

Instruction is part of the program with any of the "big three". There is no extra cost.

Bike prep is pretty simple. Tape the lights, tape the speedo, unhook the brake light, drain the coolant and replace with water wetter.

It's pretty easy to split expenses heading out there as well. Just post on the Trackdays forum, and ask if anyone has extra truckbed or trailer space.

I have my own truck with two wheel chocks (and upgraded suspension to support two bikes), and stay with family in Sacramento the night before, keeping expenses to a minimum. I'm actually headed out that way after work today, since I'll be instructing for Zoom Zoom tomorrow at Thunderhill.

[JAS510]

thx for the info mrcrash.