View Full Version : dragged pegs at the track?
Tmoneyluv
06-06-2006, 05:21 PM
On my last session of my last trackday I lightly scraped footpegs on a couple turns. I am a C group rider and I'm not carrying a lot of speed on the turns but I was suprised when I felt the pegs scrape. I figured my knee pucks would touch the pavement before my pegs ever would. Someone told me I may not be hanging off enough. Some input would be helpful. I was riding a sv650s by the way.
afm199
06-06-2006, 08:32 PM
Lot of reasons for this.
A. If you weigh over 140 pounds you are way too heavy for the stock forks, the bike is riding too low.
B. Hard to tell if you are hanging off properly without seeing.
C. We lean more at the track. :)
Agent Orange
06-06-2006, 10:54 PM
This used to happen to me alot in my early days of track riding. I would bet it's your body positioning. Though it is possible to drag both peg and knee at the same time.
People say you will never "need" rear sets if you hang off properly. Not me.
Tmoneyluv
06-07-2006, 09:13 AM
Well I'm headed to T-hill in July on a f4i this time. We'll see what happens. Thanks fellas.
Jakemate
06-13-2006, 10:22 AM
My scraping, lean angle and amount of tire used have decreased since learning better body positioning. All with better lap times.
Now if I could just get over my passing phobia.....
afm199
06-14-2006, 09:56 AM
My observation on passing is that it is always or almost always a trust issue. You have to trust the guy you are passing to not do something squidly. If you follow for a while you will be able to make observations on their style and act accordingly.
For instance, the may go wide on all corners and then enter slow. Good opp to pass on the inside. They may make very tight lines, good oppo to pass on the outside. They may be ALL OVER the track, good oppo to come in and let them go.
tzrider
06-15-2006, 12:12 AM
Body position may be a big factor, but a couple oother possibilities are:
- Turning into the corner too slowly. The slower you lean it over, the more lean angle you will need at some point in the turn.
- Poor throttle control. If you hesitate on the gas after you get the bike leaned, the suspension will settle and use up some of your clearance. If you roll on, *both* ends of the suspension will extend and give you the clearance back.
slydrite
06-15-2006, 05:10 PM
here's something you almost never get on barf.....the simple soultion
make sure that you've removed the 'feelers' off the underside of the foot pegs......
Tmoneyluv
06-15-2006, 10:36 PM
On a different thread around here it was noted that the peg feelers are on there for a reason, like you'll scrape those before , say, your exhaust or some other "hard parts". That would suck.
slydrite
06-15-2006, 11:45 PM
ok, so do all the other recommendations on this thread.......................................
................and you'll still touch those feelers down.......
if you're on the race track and leaning any decent amount, you have to remove those, unless you want to touch down in every corner....everyone else either removes them or replaces the peg assy with rear sets......
the real reason those are there is for the street, as a 'warning' that you're leaning pretty far.....the track is not the street
Tmoneyluv
06-16-2006, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by slydrite
ok, so do all the other recommendations on this thread.......................................
................and you'll still touch those feelers down.......
if you're on the race track and leaning any decent amount, you have to remove those, unless you want to touch down in every corner....everyone else either removes them or replaces the peg assy with rear sets......
the real reason those are there is for the street, as a 'warning' that you're leaning pretty far.....the track is not the street
That makes alot of sense. Does anyone have any idea how many more degrees of lean angle (approx.) you would get by moving the pegs 1" up and 1" back? (as an example).
atek3
06-17-2006, 04:41 PM
my first time at T-hill I was on my SV650S with stock footpegs. I was scraping pretty badly on the left side and some on the right. Then the instructors at Z^2 told me move one cheek off the seat. After that I started touching knee down before peg. Turn two I dragged knee and peg once or twice. The next time I went to t-hill I had higher aftermarket rearsets and never scraped again.
CRAWLL
06-18-2006, 12:04 AM
Learn to lean off.
Lazerus
06-19-2006, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by slydrite
here's something you almost never get on barf.....the simple soultion
make sure that you've removed the 'feelers' off the underside of the foot pegs......
... Mine recently managed to remove themselves, lock-tite and all.:teeth
Jakemate
06-23-2006, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by afm199
My observation on passing is that it is always or almost always a trust issue. You have to trust the guy you are passing to not do something squidly. If you follow for a while you will be able to make observations on their style and act accordingly.
For instance, the may go wide on all corners and then enter slow. Good opp to pass on the inside. They may make very tight lines, good oppo to pass on the outside. They may be ALL OVER the track, good oppo to come in and let them go.
I've been thinking about this a lot.
I know it's hard for me to trust the person in front of me, but I think it may be harder to trust myself. I think my brain wants to keep me out of a situation that could possibly hurt someone.
This isn't to say I am a complete shit rider. I'm fairly competant. But, there are moments in everyones life where they misjudge things.
Even if the person in front of me squids out, while I'm making a good pass, I would feel at fault.
Seems I need to work on some issues.
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