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never thought it would happen to me (both wrists broken)

tips on new tires .... wash with warm soap and water ( dawn )
@ least twice to remove the release agent , ride like there's an ice storm out side ....
Vitamins and liquids , keep the wrists elevated .
Get well fast
 
Damn that suck's real bad, very sorry to hear. I hope this injury doesn't conflict with work very badly. Heal up quick, and I'm sure that if you needed help with something, you can PM anyone of us, right guys?
 
http://experts.about.com/q/Motorcycle-Safety-Driveability-790/new-tires.htm

"The precautions are pretty simple--tires are "slippery" for the first 80 miles or so. You'll want to "heat cycle" them: warm them up (by riding on them for at least 20 minutes) and let them cool down (at least two hours) three or four times before they're properly broken in. You could do this all in a day, or you could do it over the period of a week or month, doesn't matter.

At first, the first 10 miles or so, they'll be like ice. Avoid dramatic accelleration, braking, and lean angles. Once they're warmed up, gradually lean a little farther and farther over, scrubbing in the sides of the tires a little at a time. You can even take a hard file and scrub that factory-fresh surface off them to help the process along.

After four heat cycles and 80-100 miles, they'll be broken in and ready for whatever you dish out.

Pat"

Another technique:
Use the old tire to skuff the slippery finish off of spinning new tire.

http://www.dansmc.com/tires1.htm
"New tires have a coating on them. This is a mold release coating. It let's the tire pop out of the tire mold easily. It also makes the tire slippery for a while, till it wears off. This process takes, maybe, 50 to 100 miles. Take things easy till the mold release is worn off. Using Goo Gone cleaner on new tires seems to help too."

http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq/chickenstrips.html
"When you buy new tires, the best thing to do is to find an empty parking lot and do some lazy figure-eights. Make your turns progressively faster and with greater lean angles. The idea is to scrub off that goo under controlled circumstances. You never want to suddenly turn so hard that you're riding entirely on an area of the tires that hasn't been scrubbed off yet."
 
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Wow Stan - sorry to hear. Life is gonna suck for a while.

There is a product that might help with keyboard/mousing called Dragon Naturally Speaking ... its not a great product, but it might help (you can web browse with it).

Take it easy and heal quick :)
 
:laughing :laughing :laughing

That's some funny shit, man! Are you really suggesting that the dealership should put 80-100 miles and four heat cycles into your tires after they're mounted?

The problem with all of links is that they're based on tire construction techniques that were en vogue 20 years ago. HINT: just because some idiot has posted it on the Internet doesn't mean it's true. Dunlop, for example, doesn't use a release agent on any of their high-performance tires these days. Or at least that's what the guys at Sport Tire Services seem to think...
 
fubar929 said:
HINT: just because some idiot has posted it on the Internet doesn't mean it's true.
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O rly?
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:laughing
 
Sorry to hear about the crash. Hope you heal up fast.
 
Heal quick Stan, hope you have someone to take care of you and your moto.
 
I agreed to meet Stan at Starbucks by his house and head over to a BBQ. I call and tell him I just grabbed a non-fat-decaf- venti-iced-caramel-frappuchino-light with light whip (of course) and that he should head on over.

Well, 30 minutes go by and I call but it goes straight to VM. I assume he's on his way. 15 more minutes go by and I call again. "Dude! Where are you?!?"

Chi answers - "Stan went down. Come by..."

Sorry dude - I shoulda driven this time...

We knew he was (relatively) OK when he said about his ripped jeans, "Damn, these were expensive!" and the cute chick in Radiology wasn't cute enough to get a MySpace URL....

Yes, Lizard, it was the Duc. Apparently not too much damage but I showed up after the bike was taken away.

Stan handled the damaged bike and broken wrists pretty well, all things considered.

Props to Chi and Brian and the roommate with the truck for helping out! :thumbup
 
Sorry about your wrists...that sounds like a major PITA to say the least. Whoa.

As for the let's sue attitude, give it a rest. It's called personal responsibility. The tires are not flawed, not inherently risky in an unexpected way. It's a bummer about the drop, but that is an accepted risk of the RIDER'S decision.

Heal up man. I don't envy you for the next few weeks. Oh...just ignore that itch on your butt. Ignore it. ;)
 
Stan, I'm very sorry to hear about your getoff. :( I hope your bike can be quickly repaired and that you heal up very soon to ride again! :mstingray
 
Sorry to hear about your mishap. I hope they gave you the short casts and not the one's that go to your elbow. If you don't have friends and family to help you when you need it, you could hire a temp home health aid to get you through. Check Craigslist or post a wanted ad...

And I hope you don't take this guy seriously...


bmer97 said:
Let's see. I (the manufacturer and dealer) sell a product that is known to unsafe, that causes injury or death. I know how to make the product safer but don't.

What a shame. An attorney consultation may be advisable, and helpful to the riding community.

Good luck.
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Damn it stan,

I was really hoping you were crying wolf.

Call me if you can :p
 
Sorry to hear about your misfortune.

Now, to avoid in the future...

First ride the bike almost upright for long enough to get the tires thoroughly heated up, then start taking turns which gradually increase the lean angle. What you want to do is to have the majority of the contact patch already scrubbed in with only a little bit of new unscrubbed surface on the patch so that it gets scrubbed while the already scrubbed part is providing the needed friction.

Where you went wrong was in tipping it over first while the tire wasn't even warm but you also were probably on a contact patch that was mostly if not all unscrubbed rubber.
 
Sorry to hear about the gravity-surge event. Crappy stuff happens sometimes, even to good riders. About 8 years ago (after having ridden for only 20 years or so ) I threw my BMW across an intersection less than a mile from the dealership that had just put fresh rubber on.

Yes, I "knew all about" new tires and I THOUGHT I was taking it easy enough, but a bit of impatience, lots of familiarity with the bike's ( assumed) capabilities, and 45 lbs ( ?? ! ) of air in the tires put me on my ass, luckily without serious injury. Heal up and the rest of you reading this - TAKE NOTE. Best wishes.
 
fubar929 said:
:laughing :laughing :laughing

That's some funny shit, man! Are you really suggesting that the dealership should put 80-100 miles and four heat cycles into your tires after they're mounted?

The problem with all of links is that they're based on tire construction techniques that were en vogue 20 years ago. HINT: just because some idiot has posted it on the Internet doesn't mean it's true. Dunlop, for example, doesn't use a release agent on any of their high-performance tires these days. Or at least that's what the guys at Sport Tire Services seem to think...
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So, you are saying that 'modern' tire construction techniques do not use mold release compound?

If tires are sold that are as slippery as ice, I think we have a problem. There needs to be a final stage where any slippery compound is removed BEFORE releasing the motorcycle. I personally do not ride on ice ever, and I don't want new tires that are 'slippery as ice'.

You scoff at my links exploring this issue, yet you quote the 'guys at Sport Tire Services' statements on one line of tires, with NO reference.

At the least, there should be a uniform information warning provided with each tire purchase and installation. Everybody doesn't automatically know that they will be riding essentially on ice for the first 20 miles or so. Some riders CAN'T ride on ice at all!!
 
Damn that sucks. That just happened to my friend back in July when he bought his tires too. He just picked up the bike, rode about a few blocks. Entered the looping on-ramp at around 10-20 mph and the bike just went under him and slid. Not as bad as yours, but he was pissed. It was his first time ever buying tires and the dealer did not warn him about anything about going easy. I told him you were supposed to go easy because they were new tires. He was like, I didn't know shit. I thought they would be grippier:wow . Good Luck with your recovery.
 
Stan that sucks. Let us know if you need anything. Hope your bike made it out ok.
 
wow dude that bites.
heal fast, hope it doesn't hit the wallet to hard.

when I got pilot power the profile of the tire took some getting used to after the profile of the dunlop 208zrs.

when ever I get new tires I like to go for a 50 mile ride at the speed limit or less along some twisty route.
 
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