K@TT oct 8th

[kyles here]

im gonna be there, who else is going? ill be in the b- group

[omegajeff]

i'm in the A+ group. :cool

[hugh jass]

my amigo charlito and i will be there both days

[fasteddie_rr]

I'm in, both days.
First time out since my crash in August, bike is ready ribs are still f'n sore. Lookin forward to gettin back out there.

C yall there.

[cantonkiddo]

Going on sat...maybe Sun if someone sells one...later on

[Sportbiker]

I'll b+ there :)

[jimmyt89]

i may seee you there kyle.

[kyles here]

hooray! just do it!

[jimmyt89]

just signed up!!! why is it so much more than Z2

[kyles here]

are getting a hotel or camping in the paddock?

[jimmyt89]

I'm just going to go in the morning. kyle I didn't see your name on the kiegwins website.

[quasi888]

Yes for both days.

[kyles here]

now that its only a week ago, whos going?

[quasi888]

Plans changed a bit. Only going Sunday now, and that's assuming I can get the bike ridable in time.

[Kensaku]

I'm in for both days.

[Snoggin]

woo hoo hodie you gona rid ewith me?

[Dan071]

both days

[superhawk]

Both days and I'll be sandbagging in B-:shhh

[Rcorace]

I'll be there Sunday.

B-

[rrtavo]

Both days for me too :teeth

[uraniaclio]

I'll be there. Tried to sign up for D+ but they don't allow mopeds on the track. :(

[kyles here]

anyone know if they allow tank mount cams?

[jimmyt89]

Kyle, are you still camping out?

[Dar25]

In for saturday (and friday with 3Js) and considering jumping on Hodaka's offer for sunday as well. ;)

[kyles here]

no i got a telly for the gf

[Butch]

I'm in for Saturday. I'll make some noise at the riders meeting. Like to meet you guys. Follow yer lines...

[PHAT_R1K]

See you all out there Sat.

[superhawk]

If any of you B- riders want to pit by me I'll probably be next to the metal canopy.
Look for this

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/threads/000/177/107/2746195-2138293-wheels.jpg

[jimmyt89]

Art since you're going to be there on saturday, can you try to get a spot under their covered paddock so we can have some shade?

[Kensaku]

Stop by and say "hi."

Look for this!

http://kensaku.smugmug.com/photos/99600540-M.jpg

[superhawk]

Originally posted by Kensaku
Stop by and say "hi."

Look for this!

http://kensaku.smugmug.com/photos/99600540-M.jpg

What's your address, I'll stop by and say Hi:p

[superhawk]

Originally posted by jimmyt89
Art since you're going to be there on saturday, can you try to get a spot under their covered paddock so we can have some shade?

Get there early it get ugly when you try to save spots for peeps. I'll see what I can do.

[Kensaku]

Where the heck was everybody today?

[rrtavo]

We where pitted next to the big canopy structure.

[afm199]

Originally posted by rrtavo
We where pitted next to the big canopy structure.

You mean "Skid Row.?"

[rrtavo]

Ha Ha!! Yea, sorry that's right :teeth

Originally posted by afm199
You mean "Skid Row.?"

[Kensaku]

.

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/threads/000/177/107/2753266-ht4u0663__medium_.jpg

[Sportbiker]

so who had the beautiful daytona 675 that crashed ??

[Mikeeh76]

Originally posted by Sportbiker
so who had the beautiful daytona 675 that crashed ?? +1 I was camped right next to them.

[Dan071]

Originally posted by Sportbiker
so who had the beautiful daytona 675 that crashed ??

there were two, one on Sat, and one on sunday, same turn same color, ....

[Sportbiker]

Originally posted by Dan071
there were two, one on Sat, and one on sunday, same turn same color, ....

Oh noes... Luckily the guy on sunday was not hurt. Turn 1 is a bad place to crash ( not that there is a good place to crash) I had a blast on sunday. My bike was giving me some issues related to gearing (only in the straighaways) but had a great time in all the corners !!

[kyles here]

Originally posted by Mikeeh76
+1 I was camped right next to them.
i was right next to him. the one next to me didnt look too bad, just plastics on the right side.

[kyles here]

i was kinda disappointed in my rididng. i noticed i was holding back since my gf who is pregnant was there. i do think that there were some ppl that shouldnt have been on the track or atleast done a few c pace with another orgnaization but i had an awesome time except i reserved a motorcyle trailer from uhaul and they didnt have it when i got there ( like usual) so i had to get an open trailer with no ramp. thanks again to the guy that let me use it. older blue r6, i noticed you had barf stickers on your car so thanks again! im done untill next year though:cry

[Snoggin]

Originally posted by kyles here
i was right next to him. the one next to me didnt look too bad, just plastics on the right side.

I think that was Uranaclio(sic) from barf. that was areal shame but he seemed to be taking it philosophically. I think he target fixated on the outside of the track in 1 after turning in early. He is lucky and so are lots of others as he somehow went off on the outside of 1 and got thrown all the way back across the track to the inside:wow . I will let him tell the story but I talked to him about it a bit on saturday when we were trying to see if we could fix his rearset on the right side.

[bootsy]

Originally posted by Snoggin
I think that was Uranaclio(sic) from barf. that was areal shame but he seemed to be taking it philosophically. I think he target fixated on the outside of the track in 1 after turning in early. He is lucky and so are lots of others as he somehow went off on the outside of 1 and got thrown all the way back across the track to the inside:wow . I will let him tell the story but I talked to him about it a bit on saturday when we were trying to see if we could fix his rearset on the right side.

Superhawk and Bootsy Kay saw everything happen right before their eyes. :wow :wow Thankfully he carried enough momentum to slide across, rather than stop on, the track. Hopefully, he's okay!!

[Mikeeh76]

the one on Sunday, the gas tank was in really bad shape.
along with the left plastics.
I will post pics in a few. the rider also had a bruise/rash on his left arm. gladly he walked away from it.

[quasi888]

I exchanged a PM with Kyong (uraniaclio). Damage to bike and himself seem a bit worse than what has been said so far, but he seems OK. Hopefully we'll hear some details.

Sucks to crash, I am no stranger to it. :(

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by Snoggin
I think that was Uranaclio(sic) from barf. that was areal shame but he seemed to be taking it philosophically. I think he target fixated on the outside of the track in 1 after turning in early. He is lucky and so are lots of others as he somehow went off on the outside of 1 and got thrown all the way back across the track to the inside:wow . I will let him tell the story but I talked to him about it a bit on saturday when we were trying to see if we could fix his rearset on the right side.

I'm alive. I'm okay. My left knee is in bad shape but still laughing about it. Got an infection. Might have some ligament damage. Lovely bruises. I was on the 250 all morning taking the inside line and just misjudged my speed. There was traffic on the outside and I just went in early thinking I could make it fine. It kinda surprised me. Chalk it up to learning rather expensively. :)
I still rode the 250 on Sunday.

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/threads/000/177/107/2754567-inside_knee.jpg

[danc79]

Originally posted by uraniaclio
I'm alive. I'm okay. My left knee is in bad shape but still laughing about it. Got an infection. Might have some ligament damage. Lovely bruises. I was on the 250 all morning taking the inside line and just misjudged my speed. There was traffic on the outside and I just went in early thinking I could make it fine. It kinda surprised me. Chalk it up to learning rather expensively. :)
I still rode the 250 on Sunday.



ouch!!... its amazing how much damage we can incur and not fully realize it until closely inspected by a doc :(

I too recall the 250 giving me a false sence of security at turn one, mostly because the fastest i could enter was at top speed of 105... so im sure, getting on a 600 which would result in much higher speeds at the entrance of that turn, if not taken correctly could turn out quite bad.

At least the crash was on the track and not on the street :/

[kyles here]

Originally posted by uraniaclio
I'm alive. I'm okay. My left knee is in bad shape but still laughing about it. Got an infection. Might have some ligament damage. Lovely bruises. I was on the 250 all morning taking the inside line and just misjudged my speed. There was traffic on the outside and I just went in early thinking I could make it fine. It kinda surprised me. Chalk it up to learning rather expensively. :)
I still rode the 250 on Sunday.

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/threads/000/177/107/2754567-inside_knee.jpg
i was right behind you guys with the black r6. glad to see your ok....but did you crash on saturday cuz i didnt see that bike move at all on sunday?

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by kyles here
i was right behind you guys with the black r6. glad to see your ok....but did you crash on saturday cuz i didnt see that bike move at all on sunday?

Yeah. It wasn't rideable. I should've said hello to you. My bad.
How was your trip? I was just itching to get her back on the track but I don't think it was safe. The plastics weren't bad due to the frame sliders but...there were more issues when I looked closely. I still had fun...Just wish I got to ride the 675 more. I was really starting to get the bike too. :(

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by kyles here
i was kinda disappointed in my rididng. i noticed i was holding back since my gf who is pregnant was there. i do think that there were some ppl that shouldnt have been on the track or atleast done a few c pace with another orgnaization but i had an awesome time except i reserved a motorcyle trailer from uhaul and they didnt have it when i got there ( like usual) so i had to get an open trailer with no ramp. thanks again to the guy that let me use it. older blue r6, i noticed you had barf stickers on your car so thanks again! im done untill next year though:cry

There were a couple of people who were on a nice Sunday morning ride. Not sure why they would pay all that money just to go around 6, 7, and 8 and 55 mph. And some corner parkers on bigger bikes. Granted they managed to stay on the track and I didn't. :loser I should just take some vicodin and chill out.

[DaveToo]

Saturday may have been my last trackday for the season, not sure yet. But I'm happy ... I beat my personal record by almost four seconds. And felt safe doing it.

[Mikeeh76]

I hope the guy doesn't mind me posting pics of his wrecked 675. The bike was a beauty when I first saw it in the morning sessions. I kept telling my girl that that bike would be my next one!

This one is from the Sunday wreck.

http://static.flickr.com/98/265726315_50a0b0c781_b.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/95/265726311_e010881a0c_b.jpg

damage doesn't seem as bad except for the gas tank.

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by Snoggin
I think that was Uranaclio(sic) from barf. that was areal shame but he seemed to be taking it philosophically. I think he target fixated on the outside of the track in 1 after turning in early. He is lucky and so are lots of others as he somehow went off on the outside of 1 and got thrown all the way back across the track to the inside:wow . I will let him tell the story but I talked to him about it a bit on saturday when we were trying to see if we could fix his rearset on the right side.

Thanks for the help by the way. I don't know if I got to thank you. Target fixation was prolly part of it. I distinctly remember looking at the edge of the track and thinking...ahh shit. But my biggest problem was going in too hot with the wrong line. I remember staying WOT longer than I normally do. Wrong line mostly though.

[uraniaclio]

shit...I prolly could have borrowed his rearset and handlebar and rode mine on Sunday. I thought about it but I thought it would be in bad taste to ask for parts from a crashed rider. :p

[PHAT_R1K]

Yeah, that would be kinda wrong. lol Looks like them GSG sliders held up. Too bad about the rest of the bike, though. Target fixation sucks and it's amazing how just looking at the wrong place for a split second can do so much harm. Hope you have a speedy recovery and get that 675 back on the track soon.

Originally posted by uraniaclio
shit...I prolly could have borrowed his rearset and handlebar and rode mine on Sunday. I thought about it but I thought it would be in bad taste to ask for parts from a crashed rider. :p

[Snoggin]

I think it is totally aPPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR THE PARTS OR VICE VERSA IF ONE OF YOU COULD GET BACK ON THE TRACK. THATS WHAT WE ARE ALL THERE FOR IS TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT. damn scuse caps It is proper form to wait till the other rider regains conciousness though.

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by Snoggin
I think it is totally aPPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR THE PARTS OR VICE VERSA IF ONE OF YOU COULD GET BACK ON THE TRACK. THATS WHAT WE ARE ALL THERE FOR IS TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT. damn scuse caps It is proper form to wait till the other rider regains conciousness though.

Good to know for the future. Though I don't think same bikes crash too often at the same event. :)

I did put my knee down on Sat twice before I crashed. :loser But you can't really tell anymore since my suit is rashed all over now. :(

Good news...The infection is clearing up nicely and even the bruising is getting a lot better. Most of the swelling is gone too. They gave me a shot of antibiotics that hurt more than the crash. I was limping on the hurt leg out of the hospital because they gave me a shot on the right buttock and the pain just shot down my right leg. That was some bad stuff but it's working really well.
With the swelling gone down, I can bend my knee with relative ease. I think my ligaments are intact.

Anybody up for Reno-Fernley this coming weekend? :)

[Zerox]

That sucks Kyong. But hey at least you had a nice Sport Chock to hold the crashed bike? ;)

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by afm956
That sucks Kyong. But hey at least you had a nice Sport Chock to hold the crashed bike? ;)

It will come in handy again when I tow the bike to get an estimate later in the day. :) Next time, I'm just going to keep the bike on the chock when I go riding. At least it will help me keep it upright. :loser

[VillageIdiot]

Glad your okay urineclit. Way to be a trooper :thumbup

[hugh jass]

It was nice meeting you (briefly) Kyong. I was on the green 636 and my buddy Charlie was on the yellow 675 that didn't crash this weekend. I we see you out there again.
I was surprised at the slow pace of a couple of the riders. I thought you had to have prior track experience to ride in the KATT intermediate groups?
Overall is was a great weekend. I did 2 2:17 laps back to back, which I was pretty stoked about!

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by hugh jass
It was nice meeting you (briefly) Kyong. I was on the green 636 and my buddy Charlie was on the yellow 675 that didn't crash this weekend. I we see you out there again.
I was surprised at the slow pace of a couple of the riders. I thought you had to have prior track experience to ride in the KATT intermediate groups?
Overall is was a great weekend. I did 2 2:17 laps back to back, which I was pretty stoked about!

Wow...that's fast. Yeah, nice meeting you too. I bet Charlie was a bit spooked after the 2nd yellow Triumph crashed. Strange weekend for yellow Triumphs. I'm sure I'll see you out there sooner than later. I'm dropping the bike off for an estimate today. :(

It wasn't the speed of the riders that bothered me. They would steer wide at incredibly slow speeds before a turn and use the entire track. I got squeezed a few times by the same riders over and over again. Being on a 250 made it worse since my options were pretty limited. I think I passed both riders twice on the 250 in one session and I was one of the slowest out there.

[hugh jass]

Yeah, he was spooked. If you can believe it, some guy in the last session on a thou pushed him wide coming out of Turn 1 and he had to dirt track it for about 100' before getting back on track. He came in at the end of that lap pretty shaken. Our other friend Mike from St. Louis binned Charlie's (now his) black 636 in the second session of the day. That was a bummer. We're going to help him fix it over the winter so its ready to go next spring.
I guess we'll see each other in B+ next year, eh? ;-)

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by hugh jass
Yeah, he was spooked. If you can believe it, some guy in the last session on a thou pushed him wide coming out of Turn 1 and he had to dirt track it for about 100' before getting back on track. He came in at the end of that lap pretty shaken. Our other friend Mike from St. Louis binned Charlie's (now his) black 636 in the second session of the day. That was a bummer. We're going to help him fix it over the winter so its ready to go next spring.
I guess we'll see each other in B+ next year, eh? ;-)

No way. That turn 1 really doesn't like yellow Triumphs.

I'm not moving up until I figure out how to stay on the track. I prolly was going b+ pace when I crashed. Talk about riding above your skill level. :loser Charlie came by after the crash and asked, "What happened? You were going fast." I think he was trying to rub it in. :p I ran really well the session before lunch. Prolly the best session I ran in all 4 days at T-Hill so far. Sure enough, I crashed the following session. I was feeling too good in hindsight. I skipped the after lunch session on Sunday. I'm becoming superstitious.

[lokisdog]

Originally posted by hugh jass
....
I was surprised at the slow pace of a couple of the riders. I thought you had to have prior track experience to ride in the KATT intermediate groups?...


We definitely expect that, but occasionally people sign themselves up in the wrong group, either they're not as fast as they think they are or the other groups are full and they insert themselves into a group they shouldn't be in.


If you point out riders who you feel are riding inconsistently or dangerously to us we'll look for them, assess them ourselves and talk with them if needed. It's not uncommon for us to move 1-2 riders down into a slower group at a trackday, and also to talk to the 'swoopers' and try to show them better lines, etc.

[Sportbiker]

yeah.. I had tough time stuck behind an R1 who was upredictably swooping.

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by ABN
Glad your okay urineclit. Way to be a trooper :thumbup

I guess I got myself a trackbike now. :)
I'll see you in the A group in about 2 years. :)

[kyles here]

Originally posted by lokisdog
We definitely expect that, but occasionally people sign themselves up in the wrong group, either they're not as fast as they think they are or the other groups are full and they insert themselves into a group they shouldn't be in.


If you point out riders who you feel are riding inconsistently or dangerously to us we'll look for them, assess them ourselves and talk with them if needed. It's not uncommon for us to move 1-2 riders down into a slower group at a trackday, and also to talk to the 'swoopers' and try to show them better lines, etc.
i like to see ppl at the track but personally i think 1 of them should have been removed not moved down. 50 mph down the straight and 30 around the track isnt only rediculous its also dangerous to the other riders. i saw a bunch of ppl, myself included, have to suddenly slow down at turns 2 and 10 because this 1 rider was using the whole track at residential speeds.

[bootsy]

Well, the one slow rider didn't seem to bother me as much as the "swooper" did - at least I could pass rather swiftly. For the most part, the rider was off the race line. With the swooper, his unpredictablility, put everyone who came upon him in harms way.

My "oh Sh!t" moment came when he swooped wide late, and as a faster rider came inside to pass, turned into the apex, :wow causing the faster rider to hit the breaks hard, and swerve in front of me :wow :wow, but behind him (the "swooper").

The difficulty passing this guy was that he approached the turns slowly, using every bit of the track, but then would whack the throttle on exit. :mad I, eventually, was able to time my pass just right, and get around him to some open track. :)

[Ratters]

Originally posted by Mikeeh76
I hope the guy doesn't mind me posting pics of his wrecked 675. The bike was a beauty when I first saw it in the morning sessions. I kept telling my girl that that bike would be my next one!

This one is from the Sunday wreck.

http://static.flickr.com/98/265726315_50a0b0c781_b.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/95/265726311_e010881a0c_b.jpg

damage doesn't seem as bad except for the gas tank.

My bike! :cry :cry :cry

Glad you're OK though Kyong. And thanks for the justification of me going out and buying my track bike. Hey, I'm doing ZZ on the 26th of November, try and make it out in the cold. :teeth

[DaveToo]

I saw somebody out in B+ who seemed to have no idea where the track went and was riding like a rank novice. They entered turns 10 and 11 about 3 feet from the left edge of the track and ran straight into the runoff after turn 11. Good thing they were only going about 30 mph. I wonder if a brand-newbie B- rider who missed the sighting laps got out in the wrong group by accident.

[danc79]

Originally posted by uraniaclio
I guess I got myself a trackbike now. :)
I'll see you in the A group in about 2 years. :)

How did the 675 fair out? if you decide to sell it as a track bike you got yourself a potential buyer right here :teeth

Seems like that weekend had quite a bit of unpredictable riders... quite unfortunate, but in every track day ive attended, there was someone that had never been at a track and im sure when i did my first track day i was someone elses moving road block :(

[VillageIdiot]

Originally posted by uraniaclio
I guess I got myself a trackbike now. :)
I'll see you in the A group in about 2 years. :) Thats an awesome attitude mang I owe you a pint for that statement :thumbup

[uraniaclio]

Yeah there were some misfits. Not sure about B+ group but some parts of B- were bad. I would think there will be 1 or 2 in the B+ group as well. I was pretty conscious of the 250 as well so I made sure to take tight lines as much as possible on fast turns. I know you're not supposed to be too worried about traffic behind you but it's just lack of awareness when you swoop for no reason. I actually had to trailbrake a couple of times while turning in early to avoid getting run off the track to the outside by swoopers. And I've been avoiding trailbraking on the track until I get better at it. I would love to run T-Hill one of these days without any traffic just to see how it feels.

The 675 is not for sale. It's at least a few grand in repair costs and possibly salvage. It's got a bent subframe, and scratches on the frame, and a nasty gash on the swingarm. Either way, I'm keeping her. If it is salavaged, I should be able to get her back to rideable condition for about a grand if I'm estimating the damage correctly. I'll just have to ride her with a bent subframe. :) I'm even more fond of her now that we survived our first crash together. She's an awesome track bike.

Does this mean you're not out of the bike business, Dan? I was worried with both of your bikes being on sale.

Originally posted by ABN
Thats an awesome attitude mang I owe you a pint for that statement :thumbup

Haha...I'm going to hold you to that, Jason. You're not the only hardass around here. Granted you still got me on the whole military thing. And prolly kill me in 90 different ways. :p

[Mikeeh76]

I hope I wasn't one of those bad riders in the B- group, I tried to do a decent "noob" pace and get out of the way of the faster riders. there was a moment, I think it was turn two where there was a bit of traffic, 2 R1's ahead of me and I hit my brakes late to get into the inside. I passed one but the other took a wide turn from the outside to the inside so I had to bring the bike up. but otherwise it was good.

[Mikeeh76]

and by the way, glad all the had the spill over the weekend walked away. that is always a great thing!

[kyles here]

Originally posted by Mikeeh76
I hope I wasn't one of those bad riders in the B- group, I tried to do a decent "noob" pace and get out of the way of the faster riders. there was a moment, I think it was turn two where there was a bit of traffic, 2 R1's ahead of me and I hit my brakes late to get into the inside. I passed one but the other took a wide turn from the outside to the inside so I had to bring the bike up. but otherwise it was good.

yes you were 1 of them:p

no seriously though if i told you who it was you MIGHT know who im talking about, think red bike...residential speed

[Mikeeh76]

LOL I passed by that bike a few times, wasn't it like a motard or dual sport??

[hugh jass]

Originally posted by Mikeeh76
LOL I passed by that bike a few times, wasn't it like a motard or dual sport??

i think he's talking about the spider man bike. that guy was scary.

[danc79]

Originally posted by uraniaclio
....Does this mean you're not out of the bike business, Dan? I was worried with both of your bikes being on sale...

Of course not... i just need some time to recoup, and get other things sorted out. I should be back at the track next year :teeth

[Rcorace]

I'm glad you all weren't talking about me. On a clear track I was holding my lines fine, but I did have to do some weird moves to get around some of the slow people, kept thing interesting.

Here's a link to a video clip of one of my laps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plOYpgqycK4

[Mikeeh76]

Originally posted by hugh jass
i think he's talking about the spider man bike. that guy was scary. this guy in front of me?
I thought his bike is sick.
http://static.flickr.com/84/265548891_9fefd7ed8a.jpg

[Mikeeh76]

Originally posted by Rcorace
I'm glad you all weren't talking about me. On a clear track I was holding my lines fine, but I did have to do some weird moves to get around some of the slow people, kept thing interesting.

Here's a link to a video clip of one of my laps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plOYpgqycK4 thanks for that onboard vid! I just relived my weekend memories!;)

[quasi888]

Originally posted by Mikeeh76
I tried to do a decent "noob" pace and get out of the way of the faster riders.

If by this you are implying that you are literally trying to get out of the way of faster riders behind you, please don't. While well-intentioned, it only opens the door to some potentially very bad things happening. If a faster rider is indeed coming up behind you and attempting to make a pass, s/he is counting on you to hold your line. Your attempt to alter your line in order to "get out of the way" (again, however well-intentioned) can very easily lead to some nasty contact. Ride your ride. The onus of making the safe pass is on the rider behind you.

[Mikeeh76]

Originally posted by quasi888
If by this you are implying that you are literally trying to get out of the way of faster riders behind you, please don't. While well-intentioned, it only opens the door to some potentially very bad things happening. If a faster rider is indeed coming up behind you and attempting to make a pass, s/he is counting on you to hold your line. Your attempt to alter your line in order to "get out of the way" (again, however well-intentioned) can very easily lead to some nasty contact. Ride your ride. The onus of making the safe pass is on the rider behind you. that's what I meant, I was solidly try to hold my line and not be all over the track:teeth

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by quasi888
If by this you are implying that you are literally trying to get out of the way of faster riders behind you, please don't. While well-intentioned, it only opens the door to some potentially very bad things happening. If a faster rider is indeed coming up behind you and attempting to make a pass, s/he is counting on you to hold your line. Your attempt to alter your line in order to "get out of the way" (again, however well-intentioned) can very easily lead to some nasty contact. Ride your ride. The onus of making the safe pass is on the rider behind you.

I was taking tighter lines than I normally do too....which ironically contributed to my mishap I think. It was mostly just poor judgment on my part though. :(

Just came back from the ortho office. Sprained MCL, possibly some cartilage stuff (keep hearing a pop when I bend my knee) which should heal on its own and no torn ligaments. Big relief.

I'll be back on the saddle in a couple of weeks. The doctor couldnt believe I'm walking around fine once he took a look at my knee. I'm not such a pussy after all. :toothless

[rrtavo]

Me at Turn 1 :teeth

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9286/resthilloct7003rw6.jpg

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by rrtavo
Me at Turn 1 :teeth



Looks like you made that turn. :)

[quasi888]

New leathers Gustavo? :teeth

[afm199]

Originally posted by uraniaclio
I

Just came back from the ortho office. Sprained MCL, possibly some cartilage stuff (keep hearing a pop when I bend my knee) which should heal on its own and no torn ligaments. Big relief.


Ya got Rice Krispy knees, they snap crackle and pop. I've torn cartilage at least four times in both knees and never had surgery, still running six mile runs at age 60. They generally heal back, though the worst tear took years to stop hurting. I was going to have surgery and my surgeon, the head of orthopedic surgery at Kaiser, said he had torn cartilage in both knees and did not recommend surgery UNLESS it affected your life style.

[Snoggin]

my knees have made loud noises since I was a teenager and so far so good with em. The rest of me well thats a different st0ory

[afm199]

Originally posted by Snoggin
my knees have made loud noises since I was a teenager and so far so good with em. The rest of me well thats a different st0ory

Hey Tim you coming to 3Js vincent day?

[Snoggin]

yes I am there

[rrtavo]

Originally posted by quasi888
New leathers Gustavo? :teeth

:laughing Yea, I managed not to snap off the zipper on these.:teeth

[fasteddie_rr]

I was there on Saturday and missed meeting any of you. Recognize a few of the riders though. Hope I wasn't in anyone’s way out there! Still gettin over the butterflies from my crash in Sept.

Courtesy of Dito....
http://www.600rr.net/gallery/files/8/3/0/8/HT4U8275.JPG

[uraniaclio]

Yeah you look really slow in that photo. ;) How's your ribs?
You sure look like you got over your jitters.

[fasteddie_rr]

Originally posted by uraniaclio
Yeah you look really slow in that photo. ;) How's your ribs?
You sure look like you got over your jitters.

:laughing

Dito can make a slow old fart look pretty good out there.

Ribs are about 95% and I really felt good after a few laps. My front end was a little mushy as the day progressed. Dave helped me out a bit but it's time for new oil. Think I am going to invest in front and rear suspension upgrades during the winter... will see how the funds go.

Take care of that knee and dont push it, let it heal well. :thumbup

[ntula]

Originally posted by Mikeeh76
I hope the guy doesn't mind me posting pics of his wrecked 675. The bike was a beauty when I first saw it in the morning sessions. I kept telling my girl that that bike would be my next one!

This one is from the Sunday wreck.

http://static.flickr.com/98/265726315_50a0b0c781_b.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/95/265726311_e010881a0c_b.jpg

damage doesn't seem as bad except for the gas tank.

:wow that gas tank is really crunched... that is frameable.

glad to hear you are
in good heath kyong.

[uraniaclio]

Guys,
That's not my bike.
My bike has issues too but it's in a little better shape.
I'm trying to see if I can get out of a salvage situation.
State Farm has been fantastic so far and I can't imagine them saying no to my attempt to save them some money. I'm willing to pay for some repairs out of pocket and make my squid mistake a little more palatable for everyone.

Thanks for the word, though, ntula.
I'm trying to get back to T-Hill by the end of the month.
Just ordered a new suit, helmet, and gloves.

My gear is funked. And my knee problems are mainly due to wearing gear that did not fit all that well. I wish I could afford custom gear but I can't so I'm hoping to make some alterations to an off the rack suit.

Be sure to wear well-fitting gear. My lesson in all this...and ride within your skill level. :(

[ntula]

Originally posted by uraniaclio
Guys,
That's not my bike.
My bike has issues too but it's in a little better shape.
I'm trying to see if I can get out of a salvage situation.
State Farm has been fantastic so far and I can't imagine them saying no to my attempt to save them some money. I'm willing to pay for some repairs out of pocket and make my squid mistake a little more palatable for everyone.

Thanks for the word, though, ntula.
I'm trying to get back to T-Hill by the end of the month.
Just ordered a new suit, helmet, and gloves.

My gear is funked. And my knee problems are mainly due to wearing gear that did not fit all that well. I wish I could afford custom gear but I can't so I'm hoping to make some alterations to an off the rack suit.


Be sure to wear well-fitting gear. My lesson in all this...and ride within your skill level. :(


most of my leather gear fits well when i first get it, but after a bit it stretches a little and needs to be taken in.

[Dar25]

Hey uraniaclio, this is alex.

It was nice seeing you at the track and sorry about your crash. At least it seems like you are recovering your minor injuries pretty well and may be able to get a good deal going with the insurance in the end.

I was there Friday and Saturday and my weekend started off by being torpedoed from behind by another rider on the first lap during the sighting lap session on friday. :wow Damn rookies! :laughing

See ya out there soon!
Cheers

[Dar25]

Originally posted by quasi888
If by this you are implying that you are literally trying to get out of the way of faster riders behind you, please don't. While well-intentioned, it only opens the door to some potentially very bad things happening. If a faster rider is indeed coming up behind you and attempting to make a pass, s/he is counting on you to hold your line. Your attempt to alter your line in order to "get out of the way" (again, however well-intentioned) can very easily lead to some nasty contact. Ride your ride. The onus of making the safe pass is on the rider behind you.

I know this only too well with my racebike making enough noise to attract attention of the riders in front who start to change their lines in a well intentioned attempt to get out of the way, but ending up nearly squeezing me off the track on more than one occasion.

Best way to avoid any passing drama is to hold your lines and if possible dont enter the corners from the extreme outside edge of the track. 2/3rds entry is almost always more than enough space to do a comfortable entry. Also practicing inside entries at comfortable speeds often pays off later when your are passign or being passed and have to take a different line.

Cheers

[uraniaclio]

Originally posted by Dar25
Hey uraniaclio, this is alex.

It was nice seeing you at the track and sorry about your crash. At least it seems like you are recovering your minor injuries pretty well and may be able to get a good deal going with the insurance in the end.

I was there Friday and Saturday and my weekend started off by being torpedoed from behind by another rider on the first lap during the sighting lap session on friday. :wow Damn rookies! :laughing

See ya out there soon!
Cheers

Hey...yeah it was good talking to you. You were spot on about the tail slider thing though.

During the sighting lap? You mean we're not supposed to be racing during those laps? :loser It wasn't me who torpedoed you. :p The only thing scarier than the newb gun range day is a newb track day. :p