CHP - log of traffic stops?

[JeffeVerde]

When CHP makes a traffic stop, do they radio in or maintain their own time log of when they start/finish the stop? I was recently cited for speeding when I wasn't. This occured at dusk, so I'm guessing the officer confused me with some other bike. But I was riding with my throttle lock set, so I know that I was riding at a steady 65 before and after seeing the officer.

Five miles before being stopped, I observed the officer in the middle of a traffic stop on the other side of the road. If I can document the time that he finished that previous stop, I can show that he couldn't have completed the other stop, gotten back in his car , back on the road, turned around, and overtaken me at the point that he did, unless I was traveling much slower than the speed he cited. "Coincidentally", doing the overtaking calculation with my speed at 65 and his at 85 (which, while watching another trial, I heard a CHP officer testify was the max speed for a cruiser on that stretch of road) the intercept would occur exactly where he did in fact overtake me.

I'm hoping there's some kind of log I can get in a Discovery Reuquest - otherwise, the officer can just say "I don't recall that", and it's my word against his.

[GingerNinja]

Cops are corrupt, your fucked.. they lie, cheat, and steal like everybody else. Only thing is they hide behind the badge

[Mortifer]

Originally posted by GingerNinja
Cops are corrupt, your fucked.. they lie, cheat, and steal like everybody else. Only thing is they hide behind the badge

You have been suspended.:x

[motorman4life]

CHP (like most police and sheriff's departments in CA) use CAD (Computer Aided Dispatch) which does track all calls for service and whenever an officer puts themselves out of service or on a stop as well as when they call back into service. There are a few problems with trying to use those times as evidence.
There may be an entry delay if the dispatcher is tied up when the officer clears or initiates a call. Usually it is pretty accurate when the initiate the call because the dispatcher needs to take down the location and details. The biggest delays come when the officer clears the call. Sometimes they are not cleared in the system until their next stop or call. Sometimes a dispatcher will go to attach them to a new call and see they are still out on the previous call (in the system). In these cases, the times will be very close (within seconds) and not a reflection of what actually transpired. Another cause for delay would be that many times officers will forget to call back in, or they will wait until they are done writing their notes before calling back into service. Lastly, not all stops are radioed in. It depends upon the practice of the officer, the expectations of their supervisor, the volume of radio traffic at the time and the degree of risk or danger the officer perceives.

I know officers that call in every stop, every time, every day. On motors, I probably call in about 1 in 5 stops. I know officers that work in the daytime and do a lot of stops are less likely to call them in, particularly when compared to officers that work at night and make infrequent stops. I don't know about the CHP practices, particuarly in your area.

If you whole case hinges on whether the officer was on a stop immediately before he observed you, then your goose is cooked. :p

[masameet]

Originally posted by Mortifer
You have been suspended.:x


Why not ban him for his suggestion to JPM (under his user name) -- "JPM, GO CATCH LEAD"?

That's sick, real sick, Gingerninja. You must be one sick mofo.

[Mortifer]

Originally posted by masameet
Why not ban him for his suggestion to JPM (under his user name) -- "JPM, GO CATCH LEAD"?

That's sick, real sick, Gingerninja. You must be one sick mofo.

no name calling please.:x
It will be voted on.

thanks.

sorry to bastardize your thread Jeff.

[JPM]

Most city officers’ call in there stops and there is a computer log. CHP does not always because of the large amount of stops (They cover the whole state) and it would take up too much air time.
If you believe you were not speeding that I think you would have better luck arguing that there is reasonable doubt that you were the bike the officer saw. As you said, dusk, he was stopped and you went by, and he lost site of you for some time. Unless you have a bright orange and pink helmet (Or something else similar) I would argue that there could have been another similar bike that he saw that entered / left the roadway and he just made an honest mistake thinking you were the speeding bike he saw.

[Rel]

Originally posted by Mortifer
no name calling please.:x
It will be voted on.

thanks.

sorry to bastardize your thread Jeff.

I vote for a lifetime ban.

[berkeleycarlos]

wait GN. I thought you were in the academy somewhere?
am I missing something?

[edmo]

Get an attorney and have them convey reasonable doubt.

[Rel]

Originally posted by berkeleycarlos
wait GN. I thought you were in the academy somewhere?
am I missing something?

I hope that he is..... and that someone from his agency reads this... and take a minute to speak to him....

[}Dragon{]

Originally posted by Rel
I hope that he is..... and that someone from his agency reads this... and take a minute to speak to him....


:laughing


a minute? :rofl


So back on topic- To the OP: I really don't think that a patrol log would help you... there is a gap of a few moments that would blow a hole in that as defense: If you feel that you are innocent- get an attorney to prove the point for you:thumbup

Now if the patrol car was GPS equipped...

I do think modern technology is a good thing when it comes to in car video/ GPS etc... I hate to say that it proves honest cops are, *gasp* honest.

[Meter Man]

Originally posted by berkeleycarlos
wait GN. I thought you were in the academy somewhere?
am I missing something?

Perhaps he is trying sarcasm?

:confused

[wsmc831]

Originally posted by Rel
I hope that he is..... and that someone from his agency reads this... and take a minute to speak to him....

Pretty sure he's just a wannabe officer.


He contributes absolutely nothing of value that I've ever seen.

[Rel]

Originally posted by wsmc831
Pretty sure he's just a wannabe officer.


He contributes absolutely nothing of value that I've ever seen.


I dont care what he is, as long as he's gone....

GN: Don't go away mad, just go away... :teeth