Chicken strips- tire wear

[Mad Gnome]

OK- so you got chicken strips?
My contention is that a some-what sane rider on the streets (and highways for that matter) can wear down his/ her treads without wearing down the outer edges of the tires, especially if mucho straight highway mileage is involved.
So what do you think - are you not riding right if you are not constantly testing the gyro theories?
Seems like people tend use too much lean, rather than pulling that tool out when it's really needed.
:2cents
But then maybe I'm just too chicken or ig'nert... :jaded
Thoughts?

[Hoologan]

yes

[Z3n]

Originally posted by Mad Gnome
OK- so you got chicken strips?
My contention is that a some-what sane rider on the streets (and highways for that matter) can wear down his/ her treads without wearing down the outer edges of the tires, especially if mucho straight highway mileage is involved.
So what do you think - are you not riding right if you are not constantly testing the gyro theories?
Seems like people tend use too much lean, rather than pulling that tool out when it's really needed.
:2cents
But then maybe I'm just too chicken or ig'nert... :jaded
Thoughts?

What?

Ride your own ride.

[edpet]

Some riders will render judgement of another rider's capabilities on the basis of the presence and width of chicken strips. But there could be many reasons for them: commutes that take you along straight roads, or maybe you're just not super-aggressive.

I've only had my '05 FZ1 for a short while. I didn't trust the OEM tires (BT 021 I think). I recently had BT 014 installed - much more confidence in them. So my chicken strips became quite narrow.

On May 3, I went to Infineon with Ride Red Shift, and my chicken strips all but disappeared. My rear tire exhibited complete wear side to side. I also scrapped the pegs a few times, which I elimited by hanging off more. It was very gratifying.

That said, the narrow chicken strips will probably and eventually return - what I do on a surface and in an environment as predictable as track I would not do on street. Yet some riders will continue to do on street what they do and learn on track.

Anyone that belittles your ride because you have strips on your tire should just shut up, get riding and get outta sight.

[Z3n]

Originally posted by edpet
Some riders will render judgement of another rider's capabilities on the basis of the presence and width of chicken strips. But there could be many reasons for them: commutes that take you along straight roads, or maybe you're just not super-aggressive.

I've only had my '05 FZ1 for a short while. I didn't trust the OEM tires (BT 021 I think). I recently had BT 014 installed - much more confidence in them. So my chicken strips became quite narrow.

On May 3, I went to Infineon with Ride Red Shift, and my chicken strips all but disappeared. My rear tire exhibited complete wear side to side. I also scrapped the pegs a few times, which I elimited by hanging off more. It was very gratifying.

That said, the narrow chicken strips will probably and eventually return - what I do on a surface and in an environment as predictable as track I would not do on street. Yet some riders will continue to do on street what they do and learn on track.

Anyone that belittles your ride because you have strips on your tire should just shut up, get riding and get outta sight.

It's also worth noting that on some bikes, with stock pegs/exhaust configs, and certain tires, it's impossible to erase chicken strips.

[Wrong Way]

Originally posted by Mad Gnome
Seems like people tend use too much lean, rather than pulling that tool out when it's really needed.

I would agree. I would also add that leaving chickenstrips on your tires is a bad idea. You don't want to ride on to virgin rubber in an oh shit moment. It's best to scrub in your tires to the bike's capabilities.

[Mad Gnome]

Yeah, agreed, you do have to "ride your own ride".
The baked off rubber on the tire edge is slippier than fresh rubber, so it is better to have fresh rubber on edge when you need it.
Guess I just hate terms like "chicken strips", as it implies that riders are unworthy or not pushing hard enough if they are not leaving knee puck skid marks on the way to the corner store. The track is the best place for that mojo.
It seems to me that there are so many newer riders who surf these pages, who could come away with bad plans/ wrong ideas- who could end up trying to ride far beyond thier experience in attempts to eliminate that chicken strip stigmata. Might be over thinking this tho...

:loco

I guess another way of looking at it is:
Someone who looses it trying just to get rid o' chiken strips would've lost it doing some other dumbshite thing anyways - so why worry about it?
But that seems a bit negitive to me, I guess I could do with less of these lately :rip :rose
Peace

[Wrong Way]

Originally posted by Mad Gnome
The baked off rubber on the tire edge is slippier than fresh rubber, so it is better to have fresh rubber on edge when you need it.


I disagree with this statement. At least the way I think I understand it.

If you can, get rid of your chicken strips. You don't have to go fast or even hang off to do this. Another option would be to get a tire that best suits your riding style. You will save money by purchasing a "road" tire or one that is more suitable for commuting. Having a small amount of unused tire is no big deal. Being informed before you purchase you RR goes a long way.

I am pretty sure I will always look at squared off, top of the line street tires as not being used correctly.

[RhythmRider]

Originally posted by Mad Gnome
OK- so you got chicken strips?
My contention is that a some-what sane rider on the streets (and highways for that matter) can wear down his/ her treads without wearing down the outer edges of the tires, especially if mucho straight highway mileage is involved.
So what do you think - are you not riding right if you are not constantly testing the gyro theories?
Seems like people tend use too much lean, rather than pulling that tool out when it's really needed.
:2cents
But then maybe I'm just too chicken or ig'nert... :jaded
Thoughts?
Lean angle is a function of the bike's velocity and turn radius. Using too much lean angle depends on what your goal is. If you want to get around a corner fast, then you increase the radius of the turn and use less lean angle for a given speed. But let's say you just follow the arc of the curve all the way around. You'll have to apply more lean angle to travel the same speed as you would with a wider turn radius.

For example, let's say you have a turn and two riders going around it using different lines. The first rider takes the widest possible turning radius at 60mph. The 2nd rider follows the arc of the turn at 45mph. They could both be carrying exactly the same lean angle through the turn, but the 2nd rider is not going nearly as fast. I'm not sure what your definition is of a somewhat sane rider, but what I'm trying to explain is that you can indeed wear the edge of your tires without riding really fast.

[EbolaMonkey]

i ride 90% commuting highway but 3 trips to not so very twisty twisties on my PP at a very slow relaxed pace rid me of my chicken strips.. with no knee dragging whatsoever.

well at least on my rear tire.. my front tire still has a little bit on the right side... but yar who cares? just ride and one day you will see that they are gone! be safe!

[FoolishMortal]

There are many types of riding. Don't worry about it.

[afm199]

terrible

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/threads/000/202/893/3138915-shredded.jpg

[Mad Gnome]

LOL- "terrible"
I think that tire is not torn up near enough to be worthy;-) of course if he had an SV maybe that wouldnt be an issue...

As to what creates them strips... rubber heats, oils bake out and if not worn by the road and sloughed off the "Chiken Strips" will end up in evidence. The "Baked" rubber has a little less traction than "Fresh" rubber- ergo better grip- until the road takes it away, so I think we are saying the same thing there, really. better to suit your tire to your riding style and purpose.


This was a really lousy thread anyway... apologies

[Stu]

Originally posted by Mad Gnome
...chicken strip stigmata.

Having the wounds of christ, made out of chicken strips.