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BARFONE
05-07-2007, 10:40 PM
so today i was on my bike facing the wall. the wall was about 4 feet away. i put the bike at full lock right and starting turning to get out my garage and somehow my bike fell on the floor. i was in a bad mood because of something my dad said and also in a rush because my neighbor was trying to leave the garage also but i need to know what I did wrong physically
i think I forgot to pull in the clutch but im not sure.
brichter
05-07-2007, 10:53 PM
You crashed. That's what you did wrong physically.
Would it have been a better idea to back up instead of going forward? That's a mental mistake, not a physical one.
You were in a bad mood because of something your dad said. Would it have been a better idea to take a walk around the block and chill for a few minutes before hopping on? There's another mental mistake.
In a hurry because the neighbor was trying to leave also? Could you have waited for him to clear the area before you left? There's another mental mistake, not a physical one.
How long have you been riding? I'm thinking you're probably still on the short end of your first year. The most important thing to learn is that a bad mindset will put you at a much higher risk of crashing than a good one, because you're not concentrating on the ride, but on some other BS.
Remember this, and you will not only crash less, but live longer. Stress kills, especially if you're on 2 wheels.
Now get back on that hoss and ride! :teeth
racerXgirl
05-08-2007, 01:09 AM
As your bars were full locked to the right and you started to go, were you looking down?
BARFONE
05-08-2007, 01:44 AM
i might have been, would looking straight up wouldve saved me?
did that happen to you before which is how you know?
DataDan
05-08-2007, 11:06 AM
With the front wheel turned full-lock to the right, the motorcycle wants to fall to the right. To get rolling without falling you need acceleration to add centrifugal force that will counterbalance the thendency to fall right. So the process is balancing act, using the throttle and clutch to keep the bike upright. Keeping your head up and looking where you want to go gives you the reference fram you need to maintain balance.
The best instruction I know of for low-speed maneuvers (other than motor-cop school, I suppose) is Jerry Palladino's Ride Like a Pro (http://www.ridelikeapro.com/) video.
racerXgirl
05-08-2007, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by BARFONE
i might have been, would looking straight up wouldve saved me?
did that happen to you before which is how you know?
The last time that I had dropped my Monster, I was making a right turn from a stop light and the bike stalled out on me (my lesson on the differences between a fuel injected bike and carb'd), and bike go boom :(
My asking if you were looking down was just that is a more common thing new riders do. DataDan hit the nail on the head when he spoke about keeping your eyes up to maintain balance.
Don Tuite
05-08-2007, 11:15 AM
I second the Ride Like a Pro recommendation. The video is the very opposite of all the knee-dragging, sidewall-scraping, sportbike stuff on BARF, but hey, every ride starts and ends with slow-speed maneuvering, and there's usually a bit in the middle every now and then.
Don
Nemo Brinker
05-08-2007, 12:08 PM
Try the Ride Like a Pro DVD, and consider this class (a short, intro civilian version of moto-cop training): http://www.alamedacountysheriff.org/rtc/classes/evoc/1day_adv_civ_motor/class.htm
squid vicious
05-08-2007, 01:54 PM
Chances are you tapped the front brake, either intentionally or otherwise, with the bars turned. If you're not expecting it, it throws you off balance real quick.
I saw it twice this weekend....and I've done it myself.
Wannaduck
05-08-2007, 03:13 PM
Interesting no one mentioned about leaning prior to openning the throttle. I thought you would turn right and lean right, then go forward.
Amandyke
05-08-2007, 05:43 PM
In addition to the good advice that's already been said, you could always power walk the bike until you've gotten it a bit more straightened out.
PoseR1
05-08-2007, 06:16 PM
this was taught on the first day of motorcycle training if you were smart enough to take it.....
turn the front wheel, lean bike slightly, look where you want to go, and release the clutch and roll on smoothly......
Mudda Focker
05-08-2007, 06:20 PM
alwayse look where u want to go. look down u go down.
plus riding a bike is more mental than it is physical, you shouldnt ride when your upset..as said uptop mayb a walkaround the block to clear your mind before u ride.
an advice that my msf instructor told me was that if your not mentally set to ride DONT RIDE!
slydrite
05-08-2007, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by PoseR1
this was taught on the first day of motorcycle training if you were smart enough to take it.....
turn the front wheel, lean bike slightly, look where you want to go, and release the clutch and roll on smoothly......
that's not part of the newer curriculum......that was worthwhile, too
alatus
05-15-2007, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by slydrite
that's not part of the newer curriculum......that was worthwhile, too
I would happily teach this in lieu of 'obstacles and lane changes' ya know?
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