View Full Version : Can I get a "new" 4 stroke role call?
Ducky_Fresh
02-25-2003, 11:51 PM
I wanna know what "new" 4 stroker bikes are out there. If you own one, or have owned a few, lemme know which one's you've liked more! Comparison to similar two strokers..(CR vs CRF, YZ vs YZF, etc)
I don't know much about them, and want some rider input on em!
Rather discuss em than go just check out the manfu. websites.
- Everett
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 08:26 AM
Everett,
What do you want to do with the 4 stroke? Motocross, Enduro, Supermotard, Baja, Sand, Woods...?
budman
02-26-2003, 08:37 AM
Spent the youth on 2 strokes..RM's mostly..
Now a Yz400 ....starting it is a lesson in humility..cool ride, but I have not ridden a current 250 2 stroke...I think I would like the 2 stroke better.
:smoking
951dude
02-26-2003, 09:53 AM
I'd say 4stroke for anything except motocross and sand.
I like Yamahas more than the new CRf's. Used they are a much better deal right now.
My last bike was a '01 WR250f. Before that I had an '00 XR400 and a '89 YZ250(2stroke). The XR is purely a trail bike- comfy, easy, heavy. The YZ was much harder in more technical trails, but I liked it alot on the track. The WR was a mix of both which I really liked. But it was a little weak, so that's why I now have a 400cc.
4 strokes have their quirks, especially starting, but you get used to it.
pelikan
02-26-2003, 10:17 AM
I just wanted to chime in and make sure the soon to be released 4 strokes from Hondas don't get forgotten.
The
CRF250R (http://www.hondamotorcycles.com/motorcycles/motocross/model.asp?ModelName=CRF250R&ModelYear=2004&ModelId=CRF250R4) looks like it is going to kick much ass.
And the CRF250X (http://www.hondamotorcycles.com/motorcycles/off-road/model.asp?ModelName=CRF250X&ModelYear=2004&ModelId=CRF250X4) which is the same bike but with the magic e-button and some other stuff, is the one my deposit will be on :) :)
Bad Dad
02-26-2003, 11:15 AM
Dirt Bike magazine has the new CRF450X off road thumper!!! :wow
Ducky_Fresh
02-26-2003, 11:47 AM
IS the magic "e" button for eject? :laughing
I like just knowing about stuff, and hopefully I'll get some money and maybe get a newer bike for dirt.
- Everett
Ducky_Fresh
02-26-2003, 11:50 AM
Oh nice. I like that CRF250R. Thing is probably $4000...
Dirt bikes are so overpriced. Guess people make too much money these days to make it a concern.
Are kawi and zook making similar models?
- Everett
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 11:52 AM
The magic button is the e-lectric start ;)
When I bought my KTM, I wanted a 4 strokes, electric start, green sticker, 400+ cc, not street legal, ready for enduro and hare scramble racing. The new WR450F is a red sticker bike so the KTM was the only one on the list of potentials. Luckily it is also the BEST!!! :teeth :banana
westie
02-26-2003, 12:34 PM
Check me out, I hurt, but I'm still laughing, oohhh!
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by westie
Check me out, I hurt, but I'm still laughing, oohhh!
Check out your crying schedule ;) :laughing
http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=21928
Originally posted by Ducky_Fresh
Oh nice. I like that CRF250R. Thing is probably $4000...
Dirt bikes are so overpriced. Guess people make too much money these days to make it a concern.
Are kawi and zook making similar models?
- Everett
Actually it will be over $5000 before tax, licence, etc.
Ducky_Fresh
02-26-2003, 04:09 PM
Omfg, dirtbikes are fucking rip off... so much fun, but you can get a street bike used for that much!!
- Everett
951dude
02-26-2003, 05:03 PM
The KEY to dirtbikes is to by used. I've lost 4k on the two dirtbikes I bought new. never lost a cent on any used bike I bought.;)
Originally posted by Ducky_Fresh
Omfg, dirtbikes are fucking rip off... so much fun, but you can get a street bike used for that much!!
- Everett
For sure you can get a really nice used sportbike for less than most new dirtbikes.
I got a great deal on my DRZ and it was still $5025.00 OTD.
2001 DRz400e-The smoothest power you may ever feel. Not the fastest, the smoothest:thumbup
http://norcalcycleaccessories.com/dsc00304.jpg
superhawk
02-26-2003, 06:41 PM
I have a deposit on a crf250x. Can't wait!!
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by superhawk2000
I have a deposit on a crf250x. Can't wait!!
Congrats! :thumbup
Do you know if it's going to be a green sticker bike?
superhawk
02-26-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by JoeBar
Congrats! :thumbup
Do you know if it's going to be a green sticker bike?
The x model is green sticker and the R model is race only. No sticker:(
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by superhawk2000
The x model is green sticker and the R model is race only. No sticker:(
It's either red or green, there is no "no sticker" bike. The R must be a red sticker bike then... ;)
The XR line is the only Green sticker legal bike in their line. Im pretty sure the CRF wont be legal.
Bad Dad
02-26-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by DrZ
The XR line is the only Green sticker legal bike in their line. Im pretty sure the CRF wont be legal.
uh uh!! au contraire....
The crf150 and 230 are green stickers!!!!
Originally posted by Bad Dad
uh uh!! au contraire....
The crf150 and 230 are green stickers!!!!
I stand corrected. The reason the CRF150 and 230 are "green legal" is because they are basicly XR engines(air cooled, smog, etc..) in an mildly updated frame and plastic;)
Ducky_Fresh
02-26-2003, 07:08 PM
So a CRF250X will cost how much new OTD?
And it will or will NOT green/red sticker? (remind me the difference too. :))
- Everett
Bad Dad
02-26-2003, 07:11 PM
green sticker=ride year round in State Controlled Riding environments...ohv parks, state parks.
red sticker=restricted/no-riding during warm/hot months in State controlled environments...
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Ducky_Fresh
And it will or will NOT green/red sticker? (remind me the difference too. :))
Green/Red sticker:
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=19300
Bad Dad
02-26-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Bad Dad
uh uh!! au contraire....
The crf150 and 230 are green stickers!!!!
didn't you notice my language pierre??
I did it for you!!!
khill
02-26-2003, 07:17 PM
We have started a new project bike based on the KLX-300. It has a green sticker and with our shops modification it really comes alive. The KLX-300 is based on the 94-95 KX-125 and is really a sleeper. While it is NOT a CR450 or WR250F it is amazing what can be done with the bike. We will be doing some shop rides and going to Club Moto with it so if a fellow BARF'er wants a test ride they can try it out. See our website at Kawi motorsports.com for more info.
Ken Hill
Ken
khill
02-26-2003, 07:17 PM
Oops
Kawimotorsports.com
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 07:17 PM
I want to hear you ponounce it! :laughing :laughing :laughing
Originally posted by haywardkawi
We have started a new project bike based on the KLX-300. It has a green sticker and with our shops modification it really comes alive. The KLX-300 is based on the 94-95 KX-125 and is really a sleeper. While it is NOT a CR450 or WR250F it is amazing what can be done with the bike. We will be doing some shop rides and going to Club Moto with it so if a fellow BARF'er wants a test ride they can try it out. See our website at Kawi motorsports.com for more info.
Ken Hill
Ken
Nice Ken! Got anything going for the DRZ or KLX400e?
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by haywardkawi
We have started a new project bike based on the KLX-300. It has a green sticker and with our shops modification it really comes alive. The KLX-300 is based on the 94-95 KX-125 and is really a sleeper. While it is NOT a CR450 or WR250F it is amazing what can be done with the bike. We will be doing some shop rides and going to Club Moto with it so if a fellow BARF'er wants a test ride they can try it out. See our website at Kawi motorsports.com for more info.
Ken Hill
Ken
Hey Ken!
That sounds great! Can you bring one to one of the BARF dirt rides? How much do you sell it for?
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by DrZ
Nice Ken! Got anything going for the DRZ or KLX400e?
Ray,
Wait until you see Mick's DRZ Saturday. He has totally tuned it to win B this year (he won C last year with it) ;)
khill
02-26-2003, 07:27 PM
We just finished a $14,000, (YES 14K!!!) KLX400 super motard project built by Todd Risley at our shop. I will post some pic on our site. The bikes was badass!! Yosh built stroked, bored 450cc motor and complete motard conversion. The bike did 120mph at T/hill!
We chose the KLX because of the weight and price. It weighs 35lbs less than the KLX400 and is a $1000 cheaper.
Ken
Originally posted by JoeBar
Ray,
Wait until you see Mick's DRZ Saturday. He has totally tuned it to win B this year (he won C last year with it) ;)
Perfect! Thats exactly what I need. Ill be able to get ALOT of setup ideas from Mick:thumbup
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by DrZ
Perfect! Thats exactly what I need. Ill be able to get ALOT of setup ideas from Mick:thumbup
Actually you will see, it is pretty much stock, it is just setup reallllly well... ;)
Originally posted by JoeBar
Actually you will see, it is pretty much stock, it is just setup reallllly well... ;)
Thats what im saying:teeth
Pierre, I finally got my first set of #'s on:thumbup
http://norcalcycleaccessories.com/dsc00306.jpg
JoeBar
02-26-2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by DrZ
Thats what im saying:teeth
Pierre, I finally got my first set of #'s on:thumbup
I am going to put my numbers on only the day before the race. First reason is that I will be racing the Wild Piglet Enduro and I am number 7T and second reason is that the side numbers will be all scratched if I put them in advance... I always try to do hill climbs and crash in the middle :laughing :laughing
:laughing I can see yoy showing up to the Enduro with #854 on your plate. People will be like,:wtf
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