View Full Version : YZ125 or YZ250???
Robert R1
03-01-2003, 03:41 PM
It would be my 1st dirtbike. I rode my friends 2003 YZ125 for the 1st time at Carnegie and had a blast. I can get a good deal on a 2000 YZ125 for $2500 (is that a good deal??) but a lot of people tell me to get the 250. I think I should get the 125, ride it for a season and then get the 250. Any opinions???
rsrai
03-01-2003, 04:00 PM
im in the same boat. so i am awaiting some answers as well :)
dont mind if i tag along robertr1
waverave r6
03-01-2003, 04:16 PM
A YZ250 has a lot of power.
Personally, I would stick with the YZ125 and tear it up for a while then see about the 250 after you've built up some solid skills. Who knows you may even want a CR500 :)
Bad Dad
03-01-2003, 04:32 PM
It also depends on your size.
Robert, I kind of guess that you can ride street ok. You would probably be ok on either one. I don't think there are any on-ramps in the dirt?? :teeth
If you're like 6'3" and 250lbs, you probably want to go with the 250. If not, and you found a deal (whcih that sounds like an alright deal?), I would grab the 125.
125's nowadays have EXCELLENT POWER, so that should not be an issue, (unless you're DrZ)
Then get your asses out here with everyone else. :teeth
Robert for you id say nothing less than a CR500;) you cant go wrong. Or a KTM 525:thumbup
Bad Dad had some good points. Unless your pushing 200lbs the 125 would do fine for a season. $2500 for a 2000 YZ125 IS a good price!
Snatch that baby up and come out with us:thumbup
JoeBar
03-01-2003, 05:07 PM
You should ask sworde21 or volks057. They both have 2-strokes YZs. By the way Robert, why do you want a 2-smokes? There are very nice 4 strokes out there that are just as fun to ride but that require less maintenance, are easier to ride and have green sticker!
Robert, whats your height, and weight?
Robert R1
03-01-2003, 05:28 PM
5'9" 174. I trimming down so I should be around 165-168 in a couple of months.
Bad Dad
03-01-2003, 05:31 PM
You'll have a blast on the 125!!!!!
Buy it, and join us!!!!! Come...to the ....DIRT SIDE..............
rsrai
03-01-2003, 05:43 PM
im 6'2'' 210.
Bad Dad
03-01-2003, 05:44 PM
have you ridden dirt before rsai???
rsrai
03-01-2003, 05:45 PM
only fuggin around with dirt bikes on the street or in my uncles barnyard.
rsrai
03-01-2003, 05:46 PM
and its rsRai :)
Bad Dad
03-01-2003, 05:47 PM
You'd still have a blast on the 125. Seriously.
You lookin new or used?? rsRai.:p
rsrai
03-01-2003, 05:55 PM
used. so if any of you come across a good deal please let me know. and i wouldnt mind a 4 stroke at all.
JoeBar
03-01-2003, 05:59 PM
DrZ has a nice DRZ for sale ;) Actually I had a blast riding it today! :thumbup
rsrai
03-01-2003, 06:01 PM
drz's are enduros?
JoeBar
03-01-2003, 06:04 PM
They are actually a lot of things. They can be used as street bikes, enduro or hardcore dirt bikes. Mick won the overall C Hare Scramble on a DRZ400. Astrocreep rides his as supermotard :wow :thumbup
rsrai
03-01-2003, 06:08 PM
does he have an ad out in the classifieds?
rsrai go to the "Are Motards ok for the dirt forum" thread and read page 4. Thats the closest to an ad I have.
Bad Dad
03-01-2003, 06:29 PM
:confused
lookin at a KTM already Ray???
Im toying with the idea. I had a blast on the DRZ today though. If I were to get a new bike though it would be Pierres. I rode it today and its amazing!
Bad Dad
03-01-2003, 06:44 PM
Don't get one of those!!!! I heard they can't even jump the table-tops at Hollister!!! :shhh :shhh
:shhh:shhh dont get Frenchie started;)
rsrai
03-01-2003, 06:53 PM
what year is your drz sorry i dont think i ran across the year
Its a 2001 Suzuki DRZ400e. Smooth power soft ride and endorsed by JoeBar;) Its a very clean, new condition bike.
Bad Dad
03-01-2003, 07:19 PM
What I don't get is this...You keep saying 250 because of torque, but then you say that 2 strokes are better than 4 strokes.??
Won't any 4-stroke beat the shit out of any 2 stroke (relatively) when it comes to torque?? Isn't that the one area 4 strokes rule over 2 strokes??
He means a 250 two stroke has more torque than a 125 two stroke and hes right. A four stroke will out torque a 2 stroke unless its a 500cc.
951dude
03-01-2003, 09:07 PM
The biggest drawback of a 125cc two stroke is the complete lack of torque. They require constant shifting, and staying in the upper rpm range much like an I4 600. Id say go with the 125 to start on since its a pretty good deal though. Then move up to a 250 or a modern 4 stroke like a Yzf 400,426,450.
volks057
03-01-2003, 09:27 PM
I would have to agree with alot of what has already been said, first that sounds like a good deal for the 125 if the bike has been maintained and is not going to require alot of cash to get it up to par. Second if it was me and I was dead set on a 2-stroke I would go for a 250 with the benifits being more torque and smoother power making them easier to learn on and in my opinion. 250's are not as hyper-active as a 125, plus when you are ready to us it all the speed and power you want is waiting for you, however 125's can defenitly fly they are extremely quick and light making them a blast to ride! The simple fact is 125's will require more work than a 250 as you will end up slipping the clutch and reving it alot more than a 250 in the same circumstances, making ridding alot busier and replacing parts more frequent, don't let that deter you too much as parts are not usally too expensive for Japanese bikes, just keep the gearbox oil fresh and the air filter clean (and oiled!) and what ever else the manual recommends, to prolong engine life. If you have your heart set on a 125 check out my link (or shamless plug) below as I am selling mine! I happen to be more of a four-stroke guy......
sworde21
03-01-2003, 10:36 PM
At 5'9"/ 174lbs. I say YZ125, that's what I ride at 5'11" 185lbs and I can keep up pretty good with those 4 strokes on the trails. Yes, it does require more shifting and clutch work but it also wont put you on your back as easily if you over throttle it, like a certain KX250 rider recently did (just playing bad dad). But back to the subject a 125 is perfect to learn on, the YZ I have is my first motorcycle (first bike I've ever rode actually) and it wasn't too much power right off but at the same time as I progress in skill I keep finding more ways to pull power out of it. At that deal and first time dirt rider I vote for YZ125.
Ducky_Fresh
03-01-2003, 10:57 PM
Robert, the YZ125 is a badass machine. It'll keep you having fun for a long, long time..
The power to weight ratio is catching up with the 250's in some aspects. I got my 250, and it's way more than I'll use, even if it is outdated and lacking current 250 HP marks.
I would get a CR125 if it were me, but keep in mind the twin spar frames are very stiff. Or maybe a new 125 equivalent 4 stroke motocross bike..
Refer to ebay and cycletrader.com for price comparisons. $2500 sounds about right for a 99+ off the top of my head though.
- Everett
Robert, you should pick that 125 up before it sells.
Bad Dad
03-02-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by DrZ
Robert, you should pick that 125 up before it sells.
word.
and meet us at Carnegie next weekend!!! :thumbup
951dude
03-02-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Bad Dad
word.
and meet us at Carnegie next weekend!!! :thumbup
And team up with your fellow Yz(f) riders and kick some KTM/Kawi/Suzuki butt:twofinger
Farmer John
03-02-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Bad Dad
Won't any 4-stroke beat the shit out of any 2 stroke (relatively) when it comes to torque??
Depends on how you look at it.
YZF450 vs YZ250 - Yes, the 4 stroke wins on tourqe.
YZF250 vs YZ250 - The 2 stroke wins.
RobertR1 & rsRai,
Just get some dirt bikes.
It doesn't really matter what you get (as long as it's not a CR500 w/nitrous) for your first bike (allthough that 2000 125 sounds like a good deal), what really matters is that you use common sense when you ride. It is fairly common for people to start riding & within a season do an about face on what they like to ride. It really comes down to the group of people you start riding with. Kind of a "good people = good times" thing.
The Barf dirt gang I met @ Hollister is comprised of good people (jury is still out on that Pierre guy ;) ) at all levels of riding, & I believe everyone there that day had a good time riding together, but the coolest part is everyone worked together to make sure everyone had a good time. This is not true of many riding groups.
diatonic
03-02-2003, 06:51 PM
get the 250. :) the new yz250 is a great bike. the bike is "planted" feeling, and has a great powerband that dosent abruptly hit like some of the other bikes. when i ride technical stuff, i hate having a huge hit. it results me in dragging the rear brake in order to maintain traction. the 125 could be fun too i guess. if you only plan to be "another" track racer poster child ;) get the 125 and get some cool sticker kit that i will envy hahahha if you wanna pull some monster hills, get that 250 and join us for a ride :p
you know im just kidding hahaha get the 250 though ahhahaha
Bad Dad
03-02-2003, 08:26 PM
Farmer John has the best advice of all. :thumbup
volks057
03-02-2003, 08:33 PM
I'll put a third on that Bad Dad/Farmer John my first bike was a 82' Honda XL125 4-stroke no power, no brakes, heavy.....I had a blast on it!!! Just get out there and ride!
My XL still starts in 1 or 2 kicks after all these years (10), still take it out now and again not advanced by any means but it has 2 wheels that is all that matters.
zookrider98
03-03-2003, 08:21 AM
I bought my first dirtbike about 5 months ago, a 2K YZ250. I could'nt be happier. That thing rips. It does take a little to get used to the power, but i'm glad i went with the 250 instead of a 125. BTW, I am 5'10- 190lbs.
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