RIP officer Rin Tin Tin

[FrigginChi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4qmsJHUkBw

[RRR70]

Poor gog.:rip

[islemann]

Damn. Poor dog indeed.

You can hear the K9 cop cursing the shooters, then it sounds like he smacks the hood of a car or side of a van or summat.

I don't know if that could have been avoided, but it was both disturbing and expensive. Trained K9 dogs don't come cheap.

I was touched by the K9 cop carrying to dog from the porch.

[GhostRider510]

RIP to the K9

[CnDnMax]

here is a bit more info on the incident:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deandre_Brunston
The dog was airlifted to a vet but he died :(

[berkeleycarlos]

Does anybody know where the video came from? Looks like it was set up on someones porch and too steady to be handheld.

[CnDnMax]

Does anybody know where the video came from? Looks like it was set up on someones porch and too steady to be handheld.

It looks like a small handheld video camera, he used a fence or wall to hold it steady. here is the full length video (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=25540566ca)

[motorman4life]

Clear case of "blue suicide." The family is in denial. He wanted to die, refused to surrender. Lied to them (repeatedly) to present a greater threat than he was (lied that he was a fugitive for murder, lied about being in prison, lied about having a gun), told the police (many times) that if they did not kill him, he would kill them (and the police dog).

Could it have gone better? Yes.
Could the Deputies have avoided shooting the suspect and/or the dog? Yes.
Was the suspect more in control of what transpired than the police? Unfortunately, yes. That's the way it is in a stand-off.

From the ange I saw, I could not see any change in the situation that necessitated the use of force at that moment. I don't know what threat the initial shooter (officer) perceived. It almost seemed like they just lost patience. But, again, I can only see what is in the narrow scope of the camera and at the angle I am given.

I do think the kid was not an EDP, but probably watched too many movies and grew up in an area and culture that glorifies "shooting it out" with the police. He made several statements ("so, we're gonna shoot it out then.") to that effect.

Clearly a victim of his upbringing. He knew the difference between right and wrong and he chose to handle the situation in the wrong way. Sad outcome all around... but ultimately he got what he wanted.



Lesson: Never bring a flip flop to a gun fight. :laughing

[CnDnMax]

One thing to remember is that the sound on these videos are more-or-less 1 sec ahead of the video which makes it seem like they opened fire before the suspect pulled out his hand.

[berkeleycarlos]

I asked the question about the video, because it seemed odd. Did the dead guy set up the vid prior to his suicide by cop?

[CnDnMax]

I asked the question about the video, because it seemed odd. Did the dead guy set up the vid prior to his suicide by cop?
I believe it was an officer filming or someone filming for them because in the beginning of the film someone says " k9 tape rolling, k9 tape rolling" and at the end of the video an officer says " Jason cut the tape".

[berkeleycarlos]

copy. I must have missed that part. Must have been set on a tripod or a real steady camera man(excuse me...camera person)

[Razel]

Or the camera has image stabilization.

[budman]

If you watch the full length vid you can clearly understand that the camera was being operated by the Police... damn shame that he would not give up.

He pitched the gun as the dog came at him.. and the Dog was hit by friendly fire so to speak.

Sad situation.

:smoking

[saizai]

Couple questions after seeing the full vid...

Why didn't they try doing what he was asking (namely, letting him make a call to his girlfriend)?

Or perhaps get the camera guy or someone with him to tase him while he was distracted talking to the cops on the right and didn't have his claimed gun pointed at anyone? (Worst possible scenario AFAICT would be that the tasing makes his finger contract on the trigger, shooting himself... which is still a lot better than several people emptying a clip into him.)

Or get him an ambulance etc like they did for the dog? You can clearly see him moving around, and that he tossed what was in his hand the moment he saw the dog coming at him - why not at least try to start medical attention once he's clearly not a threat?

Not saying that they shouldn't take care of the dog also, but it seems like a fucked up situation where they're just repeating the same thing over and over and not actually listening/responding to what he's saying. I know y'all are trained to try to obtain dominance and control and all that, great, but obviously this guy wasn't responding to that.

It's like looking at two kids just yelling at each other to do what they want... except with a much more deadly situation. :( Not saying it's not really fucked up and the guy isn't acting realllllllly stupid and hostile, but still. Doesn't seem to me like he's just trying to get himself killed, 'cause he keeps making it an "if" - "if you release the dog, then I'll shoot it and you'll kill me"; "if you call my bitch, I'll give up". Versus just plain "shoot me or I shoot you". And the cops go against both "if"s.

Releasing a dog against someone who says that he'll shoot if they do so, who DOES carry through on his statement (at least in pantomime) and then shooting him for pulling the gun... just sounds like a really bad decision. What exactly was the idea, that the dog would get him before he could react?

[drizz]

I would have been one pissed off K-9 officer...