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robinquivers
12-11-2007, 09:22 AM
I friend and I were talking the other day, and he said a Park Ranger cant pull him over. I contested him and said "anything with a blue and red light bar can get you anywhere." He continued to say the ranger does not have jurisdiction on the open road, but i believe anyone with a gun, badge, and red and blue light bar does have jurisdiction on the streets. :)

Who is right?

THANKS!

}Dragon{
12-11-2007, 09:36 AM
I friend and I were talking the other day, and he said a Park Ranger cant pull him over. I contested him and said "anything with a blue and red light bar can get you anywhere." He continued to say the ranger does not have jurisdiction on the open road, but i believe anyone with a gun, badge, and red and blue light bar does have jurisdiction on the streets. :)

Who is right?

THANKS!

Anything with a red light can pull you over. Peace Officer powers extend anywhere in the state to any Peace Officer. Your friend is wrong.

motorman4life
12-11-2007, 09:51 AM
Ditto.

Red lights are emergency vehicles, whether they are police, fire or ambulance. FTY (pull to the right and stop) for any emergency vehicle is a violation of the CVC. Red only is usually fire. Red and blue is law enforcement.

There are different types of rangers. As far as I know, only Law Enforcement Rangers have red and blue lights to the front on their vehicles and only Law Enforcement Rangers wear standard police duty gear. They have full peace officer powers and just like a city cop that is driving outside their town, they can take law enforcement action anywhere in the state, anytime.

If your friend fails to yield to a red lighted emergency vehicle, no matter if it is a LEO park ranger, municipal police or CHP, it would be charged the same under failure to yield or evasion.

If they have an amber light bar, they are likely not law enforcement rangers. That does not mean that they do not have jurisdiction within the park, just that outside the park, they are merely state (or county, if applicable) employees.

berkeleycarlos
12-11-2007, 11:12 AM
Most federal agencies call their LEO's Park Rangers if I am not mistaken. In the bay area, for example the East Bay Regional Park District has rangers(like me) that are mainly maintenance and wildland fire folks. We have our own PD and full time FD staff. Yes they will ticket you where they see the violation, not just the park. Ask anybody at the wall.

my duty belt contains a leatherman and a weedeater strap.

PorradaVFR
12-11-2007, 11:20 AM
Park Rangers have jurisdiction to enforce immigration, drug and pretty much all other laws. Tell your friend to go ahead and mess with them, he'll learn.

silverbelt
12-11-2007, 11:26 AM
Few people don't know but are often surprised that the US Park Police (federal) do have jurisdiction outside or GG NRA areas. Seen more than a few unsuspecting traffic violators pulled over.

masameet
12-11-2007, 11:28 AM
How about Fish & Game? Can they give us tickets for moving violations?

I know they carry. Met one F&G warden once when I stopped by a hardware store in Richmond, CA. He was so nice and friendly that he let me hold and dry-fire his Glock after he removed the bullets/magazine. :)

berkeleycarlos
12-11-2007, 11:32 AM
On DFG's recruitment flyer they talk about DUI arrests.....and I have seen them on a traffic stop in Martinez.

masameet
12-11-2007, 11:38 AM
Wow. F&G even has K-9 units.

I figure the DUIs are really BUIs.

}Dragon{
12-11-2007, 12:20 PM
How about Fish & Game? Can they give us tickets for moving violations?

I know they carry. Met one F&G warden once when I stopped by a hardware store in Richmond, CA. He was so nice and friendly that he let me hold and dry-fire his Glock after he removed the bullets/magazine. :)


DFG Wardens are Peace Officers. They generally do not do traffic stops unless it's a public safety issue, but yes they can give you a traffic ticket.

RolnCode3
12-11-2007, 02:24 PM
Agreed on the Park Rangers. PC 830.31b is most Park Rangers. State Parks has their own authority section.

berkeleycarlos
12-11-2007, 06:48 PM
How about these guys

http://copcardotcom.fotki.com/contributions_by_state/new_mexico_through/new_york/chiesa001.html

JPM
12-11-2007, 10:19 PM
How about these guys

http://copcardotcom.fotki.com/contributions_by_state/new_mexico_through/new_york/chiesa001.html


Sanitization police...what a crappy job! :laughing

While you are at it, make sure you tell your friend the Highway patrol can’t pull you over on a city street and the city police can’t pull you over on the freeway.

And then at least chip in for his bail! :thumbup

CA Cop
12-12-2007, 09:01 AM
(San Francisco County)

US Park Police can pulled you over and cite for CVC violation because they are federal law enforcement and considered peace officers in the state of California, took the necessary PC 832 course, and has a MOU with the City & County of San Francisco.

US Park Rangers cannot issue citations for traffic violations even though they have red & blue lights.

SF Park Rangers are civilians, they have yellow lights and cannot conduct traffic stops. They can issue citations for any park violations, such as not leashing your dog, littering, illegal parking inside the park.

}Dragon{
12-12-2007, 09:21 AM
How about these guys

http://copcardotcom.fotki.com/contributions_by_state/new_mexico_through/new_york/chiesa001.html

So, Carlos... do they have a SQWAT team?:p

berkeleycarlos
12-12-2007, 09:27 AM
:rofl :rofl

Ken that reply may just get you a award of some kind.