NEW AFM RULES?.....

[sihondalove]

one of the new AFM rulz says that "no sparking items are allowed on riders gear" obviously now toe sliders, but what about metal on your gloves? or shoulders?

any info would help thanks:thumbup

[afmotorsports]

Well... not sure what kind of Mad Max outfit you're sporting, but by the time you're shooting sparks off your gloves or your shoulders, it's safe to assume you've got bigger problems... :laughing:laughing

The rule is there to stop the squids from using knee pucks or toe sliders with titanium bits in them which are designed to shoot off sparks - they're very distracting to other riders and makes them think you're dragging hard parts and about to bin it. If the sparks are coming off your gloves and shoulders, they're already well aware of the fact that you just binned it... ;)

[brichter]

If the sparks are coming off your gloves and shoulders, they're already well aware of the fact that you just binned it... ;)

:thumbup


:rofl

[NoQuarter]

sparks are pretty, but not really that fun :laughing

[sihondalove]

well....thanks for the info!!! i just ask because i just got a Dainese suit and gloves dainese full metal racers with titanium on the top of the gloves and on the shoulders....i had no intention to race b4 i got them, but do you think ill be ok and pass tech?

[Tazman]

well....thanks for the info!!! i just ask because i just got a Dainese suit and gloves dainese full metal racers with titanium on the top of the gloves and on the shoulders....i had no intention to race b4 i got them, but do you think ill be ok and pass tech?


As I've said before without seeing the suit in person I cannot give you a yea or a nay. Take a pic and send it to tech@afmracing.org.

Ed
AFM # 337
AFM Chief Tech Inspector

[sihondalove]

ok im posting pics here in 5min and ill send them to that email, thanks

[Corey11c]

Great answer, Alex.

[sihondalove]

ok here you go...ck it.

[afmotorsports]

Ok, first off... assuming you're at least 5 years older than my 6th grade daughter, can you knock it off with the "rulz" and "b4" and all that nonsense?? Sorry to take it out on you, but that $hit is driving me insane these days... :twofinger

As long as the ti pieces are not going to contact the track surface under normal riding conditions, I can assure you tech will not hassle you. However, something to consider is the fact that all those metal parts will HEAT UP if you're sliding down the track (remember all the friction=heat in science class?) and then metal transfers heat really well... so if any of those metal parts then get close to your skin, you may just have some permanent reminders of the crash BRANDED into you!! I think most racing safety gear manufacturers stay away from metal parts these days... and no, ICON bling doesn't count! :laughing

Best of luck this season!

[sihondalove]

thats the only metal on my gear....nothin on the elblowz or knees or boots...do i pass?

[sihondalove]

Ok, first off... assuming you're at least 5 years older than my 6th grade daughter, can you knock it off with the "rulz" and "b4" and all that nonsense?? Sorry to take it out on you, but that $hit is driving me insane these days... :twofinger

As long as the ti pieces are not going to contact the track surface under normal riding conditions, I can assure you tech will not hassle you. However, something to consider is the fact that all those metal parts will HEAT UP if you're sliding down the track (remember all the friction=heat in science class?) and then metal transfers heat really well... so if any of those metal parts then get close to your skin, you may just have some permanent reminders of the crash BRANDED into you!! I think most racing safety gear manufacturers stay away from metal parts these days... and no, ICON bling doesn't count! :laughing

Best of luck this season!

oh ok sorry

[MrCrash]

Title edited ;)

[sihondalove]

^^oh fine then Mr. Mod!! haha

[afmotorsports]

oh ok sorry

No worries, I'm just messing you with you a little bit. I must be getting old. F40 in 2010!!! :teeth

[sihondalove]

^^hahaha yea boy!!!!

[Jello_Biafra]

sparks are pretty, but not really that fun :laughing

Is the guy 2 bikes back wearing full Valentino Rossi replica garb? :|

[sihondalove]

^^^hahah no, i think he just has the helmet and gloves.....hey did you go to infinion the day after thanks giving?? i saw a dude with that suit and that helmet

[Jello_Biafra]

I was there, yes.

[sihondalove]

^^what group where you riding in?

[Jello_Biafra]

"A". I did my NRS on Sunday.

[hwy1&17]

F40 in 2010!!! :teeth

see ya there :toothless

:cool

[Father J]

No worries, I'm just messing you with you a little bit. I must be getting old. F40 in 2010!!! :teeth

see ya there :toothless

:cool
Screw you guys:x:twofinger
I officially start farting dust this season:cry
J-

[dbenj]

No worries, I'm just messing you with you a little bit. I must be getting old. F40 in 2010!!! :teeth

Psss! Check u with yo' punk ass, yo! I be in da Formula-fizzle dis yizzle.

(last race in 08 :cool)

[quasi888]

No worries, I'm just messing you with you a little bit. I must be getting old. F40 in 2010!!! :teeth

+1 !!! (I think we're a few days apart Alex...I'm May 28.)

[little_bro]

Probably a stupid question, but so I'm crystal clear....I assume this rule is referring to the Ti toe sliders on these??

http://www.motogio.com/store/motogio_images/products_images/t_16182_01.jpg

[MackeyStingray]

hm

i just bought a set of oxtars and they included Ti sliders...

[sihondalove]

yeh man that sucks but you gotta take them off, it will look ok with them off. i have some dainese axial race boots and thye have ti' so ill take those off too.

[sihondalove]

the rule says no metal at all, but its really no metal on the toes or knees.

[brichter]

the rule says no metal at all, but its really no metal on the toes or knees.

I don't know about that. The way it's worded, they could probably ding you for it if you spend a lot of time on your elbows aand shoulders. :laughing

They probably wrote it that way on purpose.

[sihondalove]

well i emailed ed the AFM cheif tech inspector with the pics (that are on page 1 here) and he said it would pass, shoulders are ok, no elbows, kness, or boots

[kyles here]

sparks are pretty, but not really that fun :laughing

sparks FTMFL!
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/kylesr6/MF1A2270-1.jpg

[little_bro]

hm

i just bought a set of oxtars and they included Ti sliders...

I have a set as well. Guess I'll be running my old boots, or shopping for a new pair, unless New Enough gets the Oxtar Polyurethane toe sliders back in stock. :(

[BohnJerntsen]

My Dianese boots passed tech inspection w/ ti toe sliders. My Dianese gloves passed, too.

[Tazman]

My Dianese boots passed tech inspection w/ ti toe sliders. My Dianese gloves passed, too.

That was last season. This season they will no longer be allowed, I know rulebooks haven't gone out yet but I can assure you that metal will not be allowed.

Ed
AFM # 337
AFM Chief Tech Inspector

[afm199]

Not to mention that passing inspection may mean the inspector recognizes you and assumes you know the rule book cause you have been around forever, a common mistake.

[Jello_Biafra]

Why would a company like Oxtar even put metallic sliders on boots that people will most likely be using for racing? It's not like the AFM is the only club that has this rule..

[BohnJerntsen]

That was last season. This season they will no longer be allowed, I know rulebooks haven't gone out yet but I can assure you that metal will not be allowed.

Ed
AFM # 337
AFM Chief Tech Inspector

So, boots would be easy to take care. Well, maybe not. The allen screws that hold on my toe sliders are ground to a point where an allen key no longer fits. Not being able to race with my gloves that cost me close to $300 is lame. My backup gear is not nearly as safe as my Dianese equipment. Maybe I'll go through tech with backup gear and race with my Dianese equipment. :teeth

[sihondalove]

^^haha i dont know if that will work, i was super bummed when the new rule came out, and it said no metal, i got a killer deal on all my gear before i herd about it, but i trust Ed and he says just no knees,boot, or elbows and ill be ok.

[Tazman]

So, boots would be easy to take care. Well, maybe not. The allen screws that hold on my toe sliders are ground to a point where an allen key no longer fits. Not being able to race with my gloves that cost me close to $300 is lame. My backup gear is not nearly as safe as my Dianese equipment. Maybe I'll go through tech with backup gear and race with my Dianese equipment. :teeth

3.2.3 At any time during a race meet after Tech closes the Tech Committee
may inspect a rider’s motorcycle and/or protective equipment
to assure that the motorcycle and/or equipment is still safe for
competition.

3.2.5 Falsification or misuse of Tech stickers and/or helmet stickers shall
subject the rider to a fine of up to $100 and disqualification.

[BohnJerntsen]

3.2.3 At any time during a race meet after Tech closes the Tech Committee
may inspect a rider’s motorcycle and/or protective equipment
to assure that the motorcycle and/or equipment is still safe for
competition.

3.2.5 Falsification or misuse of Tech stickers and/or helmet stickers shall
subject the rider to a fine of up to $100 and disqualification.

What does having metal on the knuckles of the glove have to do with them being safe or not? I understand sparks from toe sliders may make other riders a bit nervous.

Let's see...new, high quality boots and gloves ~$700 or getting fined a couple times during the year. I'll take my chances...:p

[duh_ave]

What does having metal on the knuckles of the glove have to do with them being safe or not? I understand sparks from toe sliders may make other riders a bit nervous.

Let's see...new, high quality boots and gloves ~$700 or getting fined a couple times during the year. I'll take my chances...:p

Hey John, being DQ'd from DL shouldn't be so bad! :twofinger :rofl

seriously, maybe you can drill the screw a little bit and use and easy out or a dremel wheel and cut a screw driver slot into them?

what are you going to be racing this year?

[BohnJerntsen]

Hey John, being DQ'd from DL shouldn't be so bad! :twofinger :rofl

seriously, maybe you can drill the screw a little bit and use and easy out or a dremel wheel and cut a screw driver slot into them?

what are you going to be racing this year?

DL= dead last?

If I take them off, I don't think Dianese has plastic ones that fit the Axial Race boots. It's carbon fiber underneath and will be destroyed first time they scrape.

Racing a 2006 DRZ 400 SM in 250P :ride

[eeeeek]

I'm curious about the gloves, too. In my mind, metal on the gloves is not big deal because the only time you're dragging your knuckles is when you are crashing, and then there's a lot of other things throwing out sparks.

[Boris]

DL= dead last?

If I take them off, I don't think Dianese has plastic ones that fit the Axial Race boots. It's carbon fiber underneath and will be destroyed first time they scrape.

Racing a 2006 DRZ 400 SM in 250P :ride

Wore one set down during the endurance race ... not my usual bike, so my toes was-a-dragging.
J-B Weld to the rescue. :teeth
Mix it, slap it on, shape it, bada-bing bada-boom or Bob's-your-Uncle and you're good-to-go.

Went through a whole tube for that race ...

[sihondalove]

AGAIN....no metal on toes or elbows, or knees, ITS OK on shoulders and gloves

[afmotorsports]

What does having metal on the knuckles of the glove have to do with them being safe or not? I understand sparks from toe sliders may make other riders a bit nervous.

Let's see...new, high quality boots and gloves ~$700 or getting fined a couple times during the year. I'll take my chances...:p

You fartknocker, quit being a dillhole and fix your gear or I'll come to your house and stick pink flamingos in your lawn! :laughing

Gloves are not an issue. For the boots, get a hold of Jeff from Asphalt and Gas and he'll set you up with toe sliders. If I see you shooting sparks off your Mr. Fancy-pants boots, make sure you have your checkbook handy... :D

[BohnJerntsen]

You fartknocker, quit being a dillhole and fix your gear or I'll come to your house and stick pink flamingos in your lawn! :laughing

Gloves are not an issue. For the boots, get a hold of Jeff from Asphalt and Gas and he'll set you up with toe sliders. If I see you shooting sparks off your Mr. Fancy-pants boots, make sure you have your checkbook handy... :D

There is only enough room on my front lawn for the 3 pink flamingos I already have and the 47 gnomes. It's a fabulous collection. A picture of my favorite below. He would look good on your neighbors lawn with a special note from you attached. :twofinger

I'll give Jeff a call for toe sliders.

[Jello_Biafra]

Would that gnome pass tech?

[BohnJerntsen]

Would that gnome pass tech?

My guess is no. You can see the metal buttons on his pants.

[afmotorsports]

Sparky boots were the least of this guy's problems:

http://www.gaskrank.eu/tv/motorrad-fun/lenkerschlagen-beinahe-rasiert-2612.htm

Makes you appreciate our tracks in N. California, huh?? :teeth

[sihondalove]

^^^whoa!!!! what a save!!! good find!!

[BohnJerntsen]

Yowza! That might be the best save I have seen at speed. If that kept happening lap after lap, I'd be looking to get sponsorship from Tiny Tots Diaper Service.