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NorCalBusa
02-27-2008, 07:40 AM
There goes his insurance rates...
ALLEGED SERIAL POLICE EVADER ARRESTED AFTER HIGH-SPEED CHASE
A 27-year-old man who has allegedly evaded authorities on several occasions by speeding away on a yellow motorcycle was arrested following a high-speed chase that started in Mill Valley Monday night, according to the California Highway Patrol.
CHP officers attempted to pull over the 2000 yellow Ducati motorcycle, which did not have its license plate displayed, on southbound U.S. Highway 101 at state Highway 1 at about 11:40 p.m. However, the motorcyclist allegedly fled at speeds in excess of 100 mph, the CHP reported.
The suspect allegedly led officers through southern Marin County, across the Golden Gate Bridge to the area of San Francisco's Marina neighborhood, where officers lost the suspect.
The CHP then contacted the Mill Valley Police Department, which also reported having chased the yellow Ducati on several occasions. As the investigation ensued, CHP officers were led to an area of town homes in Mill Valley, the CHP reported.
Officers located the rider of the motorcycle, identified as Derek Yuill, of Mill Valley, coming to the area as a passenger in a vehicle, according to the CHP. Yuill was arrested after a brief foot pursuit, the CHP reported.
He was booked into the Marin County jail on charges of felony reckless evading a peace officer and possession of a controlled substance.
Yuill is suspected of being involved in several pursuits with different law enforcement agencies in Marin County over the last year, according to the CHP.
antarius
02-27-2008, 09:43 AM
Another one down!
SirFonners
02-27-2008, 10:35 AM
:rolleyes oh geeeez
if you're dumb enough to run, and you actually get away, you should consider it a gift from god and drive 65 on the freeway for a year. Going off and doing it again...and again, you're just asking to make friends with a guy named bubba in prison:wtf
Jackal
02-27-2008, 10:40 AM
From Marin IJ article (http://www.marinij.com/ci_8374616?source=rss_viewed)
"He led officers across the Golden Gate Bridge into San Francisco's Marina neighborhood at speeds reaching 140 mph, then disappeared."
Do i understand this correctly- cops chased the guy until they reached speeds of 140mph!? In Marina!? :shocker
If it's true, i think it's reckless from cops to do so, to say the least...
Iszlandsnow
02-27-2008, 10:43 AM
No youtube video? Weak.
cole123
02-27-2008, 10:44 AM
What a tool. Glad to see the LEO's come together to figure it out
Iszlandsnow
02-27-2008, 10:46 AM
.and again, you're just asking to make friends with the Almighty himself
Fixed.
antarius
02-27-2008, 11:24 AM
To those who say he wasn't worth chasing (and I don't think CHP was doing 140 in the Marina... the suspect was) take a look at the booking charges.
This is public information from the Marin County Jail website. It's not just a repeat evader, it's a drug dealer, a thief, a drug user, someone who resists the cops, drives on a suspended license, violates probation and evades. Five felonies and three misdemeanors.
http://antarius.net/junk/derek.png
cardinal03
02-27-2008, 11:27 AM
Sweet! I hope he gets raped in prison!
doosty
02-27-2008, 11:31 AM
i like iszlandsnow's avatar!
So, its reckless for the cops to chase at 140, but not for the guy running at 140?
Do i understand this correctly- cops chased the guy until they reached speeds of 140mph!? In Marina!? :shocker
If it's true, i think it's reckless from cops to do so, to say the least...
Junkie
02-27-2008, 11:50 AM
So, its reckless for the cops to chase at 140, but not for the guy running at 140?I don't think her was denying that it was reckless for the guy running as well.
}Dragon{
02-27-2008, 11:53 AM
To those who say he wasn't worth chasing (and I don't think CHP was doing 140 in the Marina... the suspect was) take a look at the booking charges.
This is public information from the Marin County Jail website. It's not just a repeat evader, it's a drug dealer, a thief, a drug user, someone who resists the cops, drives on a suspended license, violates probation and evades. Five felonies and three misdemeanors.
http://antarius.net/junk/derek.png
What his BARF name?:laughing
Nice list of charges... watch the DA will drop it to reckless and simple possession.:rolleyes
masameet
02-27-2008, 11:59 AM
Smart collar!
antarius
02-27-2008, 12:05 PM
What his BARF name?:laughing
Nice list of charges... watch the DA will drop it to reckless and simple possession.:rolleyes
Guaranteed.
ateamer
02-27-2008, 02:58 PM
11377 H&S is possession of meth or psychedelics. 99% chance it was meth, which means that he steals on daily basis, and is very likely to be involved in identity theft. Let him join the AMF club.
CHICKenstrip
02-27-2008, 03:00 PM
:wow Glad he's off the streets!
Just curious though...
Is he hawt?
'Cause, you know, those pretty boys get some extra-special attention behind bars...
cheezy
02-27-2008, 03:04 PM
I wonder if he payed toll.
fUxAsAUrUs
02-27-2008, 03:05 PM
the dumbest public defender in the bay area will have no problem defending the evading charges if they didnt directly catch and arrest the guy each time, for each charge..
how will they prove this yellow motorcycle, with no license plate, ridden by this guy, wearing a helmet, was the one person that evaded them in the past?
i'd fight it
stoltzf4
02-27-2008, 03:11 PM
http://www.marinij.com/ci_8374616?source=most_viewed
Thought this article was amusing. Sorry if repost.
Brings up some interesting questions about whether they can prove the other instances were him or not.
Psychochik
02-27-2008, 03:11 PM
To those who say he wasn't worth chasing (and I don't think CHP was doing 140 in the Marina... the suspect was) take a look at the booking charges.
This is public information from the Marin County Jail website. It's not just a repeat evader, it's a drug dealer, a thief, a drug user, someone who resists the cops, drives on a suspended license, violates probation and evades. Five felonies and three misdemeanors.
http://antarius.net/junk/derek.png
Meth is a helluva a drug.
the dumbest public defender in the bay area will have no problem defending the evading charges if they didnt directly catch and arrest the guy each time, for each charge..
how will they prove this yellow motorcycle, with no license plate, ridden by this guy, wearing a helmet, was the one person that evaded them in the past?
i'd fight it
I dont think he's being charged with the past evasions due to that, but this current one, one that has him clocked at speeds up to 140mph, is not going to get dropped. Maybe a lesser charge, but he is not gonna be let off considering the multiple charges against him.
fUxAsAUrUs
02-27-2008, 03:29 PM
even then he could use that against the PD for singling him out and making him marked before ever being arrested, just because he has a yellow bike, and the pd has been out to get "a guy on a yellow bike".. plus they never caught the guy riding..
if he was smart he refused to talk to law enforcement (since legally you dont have to talk to any cop) and lawyered up
}Dragon{
02-27-2008, 03:33 PM
(since legally you dont have to talk to any cop) and lawyered up
May I ask where you got your law degree and do you work for Pre-Paid Legal? :twofinger:rofl
}Dragon{
02-27-2008, 03:37 PM
Really?
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237029
Psychochik
02-27-2008, 03:41 PM
even then he could use that against the PD for singling him out and making him marked before ever being arrested, just because he has a yellow bike, and the pd has been out to get "a guy on a yellow bike".. plus they never caught the guy riding..
if he was smart he refused to talk to law enforcement (since legally you dont have to talk to any cop) and lawyered up
Why did he run then ??? If the only thing wrong was that his plate wasnt visible, he would have been fine, but he was also in posession and under the influence and then decided to run. Why are you siding with this douche ?? :wtf
silverbelt
02-27-2008, 03:42 PM
I'm just glad this guy is off the streets and no innocent civilians were injured.
(since legally you dont have to talk to any cop)
You should try that next time you get pulled over! :thumbup What's the worst that could happen?
fUxAsAUrUs
02-27-2008, 03:47 PM
i dont take sides, i dont think good or bad about people.. i'm just saying
the law is the law and our system is how it is.. still has to be played through the system no matter how guilty they actually are or people think they are..
when i get pulled over i dont like to waste my time or theirs, i dont bullshit with officers or try to act dumb.. i always ask politely to officers to just give me the ticket, save the lectures, sign it, pay it off, and move on..
i know cops are people and most are cool outside their work, and i am friends with a few, have buddies that became officers, and like chatting with them when i see them at my store or coffee shops n shit..
but on the job and as the job duties they have a job to do, the only time they want to talk to you is to get information out of you to forward up their chain because they either have made up their minds already about what "really" happened or to want to make you a suspect..
it always amazes me watching these shows on tv like 48 hours, or investigators.. the only part that the suspects messes up, and ends up getting caught up is because they let these guys put them in a room and talk to them for hours.. no real case.. not much evidence.. whole case built around psychology and manipulation
stoltzf4
02-27-2008, 03:49 PM
Should I apologize again or will you be able to still sleep tonight?
supertireguy
02-27-2008, 03:53 PM
We've got a rider in SF by the name of Elliot Bender.
Elliot used to do pull these same moto shenanigans but the last time he tried to evade southbound on Hwy-101, the Waldo Grade and GG Bridge the popo just radioed ahead and the bridge shut the toll gates. Finally cornered with nowhere to go except jumping off the bridge he gave up and was unceremoniously hooked up.
After lots of court delays and bargaining he copped to some charges and enjoyed six months of confinement loaf in the Marin County lockup. His moto license is suspended for one year and if he doesn't toe the line he violates his probation and will find himself enjoying more loaf.
Psychochik
02-27-2008, 03:53 PM
i dont take sides, i dont think good or bad about people.. i'm just saying
the law is the law and our system is how it is.. still has to be played through the system no matter how guilty they actually are or people think they are..
What exactly are you questioning ?? He ran, he got caught, he had drugs on him and in him. I'm not quite understanding what wasnt legal about it. :dunno
Junkie
02-27-2008, 03:54 PM
You should try that next time you get pulled over! :thumbup What's the worst that could happen?You aren't required to talk to them. Provide them with your license, registration, and insurance when they ask for it. It might piss them off and get them to ticket you for everything they can, but you aren't legally required to actually say anything.
When not in a car you're required to identify yourself, but that's it.
wackyiraqi
02-27-2008, 03:55 PM
Repost thread merged.
Valgar
02-27-2008, 03:58 PM
We've got a rider in SF by the name of Elliot Bender.
Elliot used to do pull these same moto shenanigans but the last time he tried to evade southbound on Hwy-101, the Waldo Grade and GG Bridge the popo just radioed ahead and the bridge shut the toll gates. Finally cornered with nowhere to go except jumping off the bridge he gave up and was unceremoniously hooked up.
After lots of court delays and bargaining he copped to some charges and enjoyed six months of confinement loaf in the Marin County lockup. His moto license is suspended for one year and if he doesn't toe the line he violates his probation and will find himself enjoying more loaf.
Oh man...Good old Elliot.
I wonder if he was doing all this while wearing the 1-Piece I gave him :laughing
bte320
02-27-2008, 04:00 PM
He could just as easily show up to court with the number of yellow ducatis registered in the bay area, and since there was no license plate, no one can say for sure it was him other than this one chase.
he'll probably spend a month in jail, get a massive fine, and have his license suspended. say hello to BART for me Derek!
They probably can't prove the evasion.
I doubt the possession for sale will stick. They pad that on just to make things look more serious half the time.
They'll have to prove under the influence. Possession is and obvious bust.
Probation violation... doh! He's screwed...
Not sure what the deal is with the stolen property...
He's definitely spending some time in jail. Just the possession guarantees that because of the probation violation.
Charmed
02-27-2008, 04:27 PM
What his BARF name?:laughing
I'm pretty sure its under "Occupation" on the arrest report:laughing
Psychochik
02-27-2008, 04:33 PM
I'm pretty sure its under "Occupation" on the arrest report:laughing
:rofl
Ironbutt
02-27-2008, 04:33 PM
I haven't finished reading the rest of this thread; but I like the points your making.
Good critical thinking.. More people should follow suit.
i dont take sides, i dont think good or bad about people.. i'm just saying
the law is the law and our system is how it is.. still has to be played through the system no matter how guilty they actually are or people think they are..
when i get pulled over i dont like to waste my time or theirs, i dont bullshit with officers or try to act dumb.. i always ask politely to officers to just give me the ticket, save the lectures, sign it, pay it off, and move on..
i know cops are people and most are cool outside their work, and i am friends with a few, have buddies that became officers, and like chatting with them when i see them at my store or coffee shops n shit..
but on the job and as the job duties they have a job to do, the only time they want to talk to you is to get information out of you to forward up their chain because they either have made up their minds already about what "really" happened or to want to make you a suspect..
it always amazes me watching these shows on tv like 48 hours, or investigators.. the only part that the suspects messes up, and ends up getting caught up is because they let these guys put them in a room and talk to them for hours.. no real case.. not much evidence.. whole case built around psychology and manipulation
silverbelt
02-27-2008, 04:48 PM
..the only time they want to talk to you is to get information out of you to forward up their chain because they either have made up their minds already about what "really" happened or to want to make you a suspect..
it always amazes me watching these shows on tv like 48 hours, or investigators.. the only part that the suspects messes up, and ends up getting caught up is because they let these guys put them in a room and talk to them for hours..
Thats what they get paid to do and the law allows it. The real injustice is that some people give up their rights too easily allowing a slam dunk for the prosecution. Even worse, some people don't even know their rights and entrust the police to protect their rights.
antarius
02-27-2008, 04:48 PM
I haven't finished reading the rest of this thread; but I like the points your making.
Good critical thinking.. More people should follow suit.
Problem is, he's making it without knowing the actual case itself. Sure, if the cops didn't know who the suspect was and they just randomly arrested the guy because he lives at that address or came home... sure he would have a point.
They obviously had a way to identify him or they wouldn't have wasted their time. Or perhaps he confessed? Or perhaps he had the motorcycle key on him? Perhaps he had a helmet and gloves in his backpack with his drugs? Maybe his buddy folded on him? Maybe the bridge toll cameras took a nice picture of his face in the helmet? Maybe a red-light camera did the same?
There's a whole host of ways that law enforcement can determine if he was the rider for the current (and past) evasions and I'm sure those techniques were utilized to make an arrest of a giant piece of shit.
People just can't say "Good Job" to the cops, can they? Sigh.
Good job CHP!
silverbelt
02-27-2008, 04:52 PM
People just can't say "Good Job" to the cops, can they? Sigh.
Good job CHP!
Likewise. Remember the "Did the CHP kill a rider" thread?
antarius
02-27-2008, 04:53 PM
Likewise. Remember the "Did the CHP kill a rider" thread?
Yeah... hilarious.
They're the same people that would sue Michelin for their 100mph low-side.
4tuneit1
02-27-2008, 04:55 PM
Police 1
Scumbag 0
}Dragon{
02-27-2008, 05:00 PM
I'm pretty sure its under "Occupation" on the arrest report:laughing
:p:ride Clerical error, they must have mixed it up on the booking form...
NorCalBusa
02-27-2008, 09:25 PM
To those who say he wasn't worth chasing (and I don't think CHP was doing 140 in the Marina... the suspect was) take a look at the booking charges.
This is public information from the Marin County Jail website. It's not just a repeat evader, it's a drug dealer, a thief, a drug user, someone who resists the cops, drives on a suspended license, violates probation and evades. Five felonies and three misdemeanors.
http://antarius.net/junk/derek.png
All that and the dude can get 10% walkaway $3500)? WTF????:shocker
}Dragon{
02-27-2008, 09:30 PM
Anyone know if the bike was stolen (re: the 496 charge?)
plumber
02-27-2008, 09:54 PM
I'm pretty sure its under "Occupation" on the arrest report:laughing
:wtf fuggit.......I bin made....
Anyone know if the bike was stolen (re: the 496 charge?)
I doubt it. I don't think a Chippy would ever turn down a 10851 VC charge.
Espionage101
02-27-2008, 10:35 PM
who does he think he is? the Marin county Ghost rider?
RolnCode3
02-27-2008, 10:48 PM
Anyone know if the bike was stolen (re: the 496 charge?)
That would be 496d (or maybe (d) - can never remember) anyways. Probably a piece of property he had with him, not the bike.
Sounds like a good bust. Lots of luck, some good police work and communication. Hopefully it sticks.
motorman4life
02-27-2008, 11:39 PM
This thread is worthless without photos or video.. :p
T-1 Thunder
02-27-2008, 11:52 PM
So, its reckless for the cops to chase at 140, but not for the guy running at 140?
I don't think her was denying that it was reckless for the guy running as well.
Not only that - but you can't justify cops using firebombs just because the bad guys do. More innocents getting hurt does not make things better at all. But it's hard to put yourself into a cops shoes when someone runs on them. I bet it's real hard to simply let the bad guy get away like that. Instinct must scream GET HIS ASS! And I don't blame them for being human like that.
11377 H&S is possession of meth or psychedelics. 99% chance it was meth, which means that he steals on daily basis, and is very likely to be involved in identity theft.
Since most humans, hippies included - would not ride a moto on LSD, we can be quite sure it was meth. Now I said "moto" because of course, the discoverer of LSD rode a bicycle on the first trip of humans.:laughing
Here's a little more on it:
"Osuna said two hours after officers began their stakeout, Yuill arrived as a passenger in a car and got out holding a motorcycle jacket, gloves and helmet. He was arrested just before 4 a.m. Tuesday after a brief foot chase."
http://www.marinij.com/marin/ci_8374616
RolnCode3
02-28-2008, 03:07 AM
This discussion about the police chasing at 140 mph is moot. The CVPI won't even go that fast. It could ONLY be the bike. I believe top speed is only the mid-120's.
GiorgioFurioso
02-28-2008, 08:49 AM
Good on the cops for getting a douche! :thumbup
But it is worth noting that they got him anyway, even though the rider was going excessively fast and got away from the immediate pursuit. So here is one case, at least, in which it was not necessary for the police to pursue at excessive speed (creating adidtional danger to the public) in order to bag a douche.
After lots of court delays and bargaining he copped to some charges and enjoyed six months of confinement loaf in the Marin County lockup. His moto license is suspended for one year and if he doesn't toe the line he violates his probation and will find himself enjoying more loaf.
I haven't seen Elliot in some time. I hope all is well with him.
CoorsLight
02-28-2008, 09:22 AM
There's a whole host of ways that law enforcement can determine if he was the rider for the current (and past) evasions and I'm sure those techniques were utilized to make an arrest of a giant piece of shit.
How do you know? How does anyone know?
This thread is a good example why our forefathers worked so hard to develop a fair(ish) legal system. The cops did their job, yes. Now the court and jury have to do their job. It's our job as citizens to not "pre-convict" anyone. Ultimately, anyone's desire to play armchair judge and excecutioner is subversive to the trial process.
If this wasn't a violent offense, why are so many wishing violence upon him? :confused
Moto4Fun
02-28-2008, 09:26 AM
Anybody who runs from the cops has something to hide or something to fear that they are going to get busted for. Only Crew Jones and his buddies get to play chase with the cops just for fun. Even the Duke boys are typically breakin' some kind of law (even thought they would be able to get off in a non-corrupt court of law); however anyone else deserves what they get. This guy is not exception. But....one can't be judged by the list of charges. We can say he was meth addict, drug dealer, thief, douche bag, scum bag and deserves butt sex and damnation; or he could have been the same kind of dude I was when I was little younger: just you average college kid with bag of party supplies. I used to be given 0 benefit of the doubt when I died my hair goofy colors and pierced my face. But once the layers were pealed back, I was just a rebel with a clue or a cause.
I would probably agree that this guy needs to be penalized, I am just saying that when the authority is pissed, they aren't giving out benefit of the doubt.
Junkie
02-28-2008, 09:39 AM
I know a couple people who have run just for fun, or just because of the traffic offense they were committing when first spotted. Now, generally it's a decent traffic offense (street racing or 150+ are the specific ones I remember), but one time one saw a CHP on the freeway late at night, stopped a couple lanes out from him, did a burnout, and just kept on the gas for a while...
yeah, some people are retarded.
And we'll chase every time. Those "retarded" people are a menace on the highway and a danger to the safety of every person driving.
I know a couple people who have run just for fun, or just because of the traffic offense they were committing when first spotted. Now, generally it's a decent traffic offense (street racing or 150+ are the specific ones I remember), but one time one saw a CHP on the freeway late at night, stopped a couple lanes out from him, did a burnout, and just kept on the gas for a while...
yeah, some people are retarded.
Junkie
02-28-2008, 09:58 AM
And we'll chase every time. Those "retarded" people are a menace on the highway and a danger to the safety of every person driving.You'll chase if they're doing well over your top speed? The guy claimed that the CHP's lights were on for a few seconds, but that he didn't pursue... I can certainly believe that if he was going solidly faster than the top speed of the cop car.
and well... while he did stupid shit like that, he at least did it in places and at times that there weren't many people on the road.
I'll chase if they don't stop..... and I've chased my fair share. Chasing someone is a very dangerous undertaking. We have to weigh risk vs. gain. We have to ensure public safety, while attempting to enforce the law. Some have run because they didn't have a license, or it was a stolen bike, no insurance, or warrants. Some run on bikes they don't own, and some run because they just stole the bike. Some run because they can, and some run because they just don't know better.
Just remember this: You may out run me, but your won't outrun the radio or helicopter.
You'll chase if they're doing well over your top speed? The guy claimed that the CHP's lights were on for a few seconds, but that he didn't pursue... I can certainly believe that if he was going solidly faster than the top speed of the cop car.
and well... while he did stupid shit like that, he at least did it in places and at times that there weren't many people on the road.
Psychochik
02-28-2008, 10:06 AM
How do you know? How does anyone know?
This thread is a good example why our forefathers worked so hard to develop a fair(ish) legal system. The cops did their job, yes. Now the court and jury have to do their job. It's our job as citizens to not "pre-convict" anyone. Ultimately, anyone's desire to play armchair judge and excecutioner is subversive to the trial process.
If this wasn't a violent offense, why are so many wishing violence upon him? :confused
Whos wishing for violence ?? I see a bunch of people glad he's off the streets but no one wishing him harm. :dunno
He does deserve a swift kick in the ass and a lil time behind bars though.
Junkie
02-28-2008, 10:14 AM
I'll chase if they don't stop..... and I've chased my fair share. Chasing someone is a very dangerous undertaking. We have to weigh risk vs. gain. We have to ensure public safety, while attempting to enforce the law. Some have run because they didn't have a license, or it was a stolen bike, no insurance, or warrants. Some run on bikes they don't own, and some run because they just stole the bike. Some run because they can, and some run because they just don't know better.
Just remember this: You may out run me, but your won't outrun the radio or helicopter.I've never run, I was just curious as to whether or not you chased if they're going 50mph faster than you can. Radioing ahead makes sense though.
Same guy ran when he got lit up on the San Mateo bridge, and somehow there wasn't anybody waiting at the end for him :wtf
part of why he got rid of that car is because he was way too likely to run in it.
The last guy I chased, a couple weeks ago, was at 125 mph on northbound 101.... I was at 120+. He was pulling away, but I could see him. The other three units were waiting for him.... then he ran from them, and sideswiped a taxi at 100+. He, and his passenger, yes, passenger too, went to the hospital. He had only a broken foot, she had road rash over 40% of her body. After the all things were said and done, we charged him with reckless, evading, kidnapping, to name a few. It doesn't pay to run.
I've never run, I was just curious as to whether or not you chased if they're going 50mph faster than you can. Radioing ahead makes sense though.
Same guy ran when he got lit up on the San Mateo bridge, and somehow there wasn't anybody waiting at the end for him :wtf
part of why he got rid of that car is because he was way too likely to run in it.
CoorsLight
02-28-2008, 10:39 AM
Whos wishing for violence ?? I see a bunch of people glad he's off the streets but no one wishing him harm. :dunno
Would uninvited proctological assault qualify as violence? :shocker
Wasn't someone asking earlier how "pretty" this guy is?
If found guilty he does deserve a swift kick in the ass and a lil time behind bars though.
Fixed
Psychochik
02-28-2008, 10:45 AM
Would uninvited proctological assault qualify as violence? :shocker
Maybe, maybe not, depends on the recipents opinion on it. He might very well be into that kinda thing. I mean, it was in SF and all. :teeth
That was one comment dude, you make it sound like we all jumped in and said, yeah, pound his ass, not the case here. We're glad to see him locked up and off the streets before he takes out innocents. One does not equal "so many." :)
Fixed
He deserves a kick in the ass for running alone, guilty or not, if I knew him I'd kick him, thats bullshit and the fact that he was DUI and in posession, yeah, I'll kick him a second time.
bertocci
02-28-2008, 11:27 AM
Just remember this: You may out run me, but your won't outrun the radio or helicopter.
You say that, but you forget that the rider that this thread is about DID outrun the cops and their radios.
Before you say "But they caught him later", let's just wait and see if those charges stick.
The charges will stick, however, the what the jury does is another issue.
Before you say "But they caught him later", let's just wait and see if those charges stick.
NorCalBusa
02-28-2008, 11:55 AM
this wasn't a violent offense, why are so many wishing violence upon him? :confused
:wow Running at speeds isn't violent? Step out/pull out in front of that and let us know if that's the case afterwards.
You say that, but you forget that the rider that this thread is about DID outrun the cops and their radios.
Before you say "But they caught him later", let's just wait and see if those charges stick.
At least a couple will stick. Like possession. Which triggers the probation violation.
bikecraft
02-28-2008, 12:14 PM
"Osuna said Yuill told authorities he stashed the motorcycle in a San Francisco alley, but the bike had not been found as of late Tuesday."
lets go hunting. i've been meaning to add a ducati to the stable.
Junkie
02-28-2008, 02:06 PM
:wow Running at speeds isn't violent? Step out/pull out in front of that and let us know if that's the case afterwards.driving on I5 at 70 isn't violent? step out/pull out in front of that and let us know if that's the case afterwards.
Psychochik
02-28-2008, 02:30 PM
driving on I5 at 70 isn't violent? step out/pull out in front of that and let us know if that's the case afterwards.
Driving down I5 at 70mph also isnt against the law. Now youre just arguing for the sake of argument.
Junkie
02-28-2008, 02:46 PM
Driving down I5 at 70mph also isnt against the law. Now youre just arguing for the sake of argument.ok, how about 75
I don't think running on an open road is violent. Just because it has the potential for a lot of damage doesn't mean it's violent.
Psychochik
02-28-2008, 03:51 PM
ok, how about 75
I don't think running on an open road is violent. Just because it has the potential for a lot of damage doesn't mean it's violent.
The act of going 140 itself might not be violent, but the end result will no doubt be violent should a collision occur.
The potential to cause catastrophic damage makes it violent to me. Yeah, driving 75 down the highway has the potential for horendous results if youre being a fuckup but almost doubling that makes for even worse consequence and has no place on public roads.
If you wanna get your jollys off so bad that you need to go 140 then go do it some place else where the only person youre gonna kill is yourself, not running from the police on the highways and surface streets.
}Dragon{
02-28-2008, 04:10 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/29/thread_is_crashing.jpg
27007RT
02-28-2008, 04:24 PM
That dude is a turd - and that's just the stuff he's been caught for! Lock him up for awhile and see if it changes his attitude about things...
ctroutnerrun
02-28-2008, 06:03 PM
"Osuna said Yuill told authorities he stashed the motorcycle in a San Francisco alley, but the bike had not been found as of late Tuesday."
lets go hunting. i've been meaning to add a ducati to the stable.
dammit, I was totally gonna call dibs... If I join you in the hunt, can we share it like were divorced parents, like I'll get it on the weekdays and you the weekends, then we switch evey couple months or so? :D :p
i dont see the guy facing much of a problem with a good lawyer. remember, the bike hasnt even been recovered.
i'm also thinking about how the chp used the local leos for help finding him. if the local leos knew where to find him, why didnt they make the arrest before?
i'm also curious about how the chp is saying he was fleeing at 140mph in the city. im sure chp is supposed to honor SF's "no pursuit" policy, but i could be wrong
i dont see the guy facing much of a problem with a good lawyer. remember, the bike hasnt even been recovered.
i'm also thinking about how the chp used the local leos for help finding him. if the local leos knew where to find him, why didnt they make the arrest before?
i'm also curious about how the chp is saying he was fleeing at 140mph in the city. im sure chp is supposed to honor SF's "no pursuit" policy, but i could be wrong
SF policies apply only to SF. CHP nor any other agency has to follow them.
Many years ago I worked for a small but very busy agency that bordered Richmond. Under one of their old chiefs they had a no pursuit policy so when they got behind a stolen vehicle and it ran their watch commander called them off after about 10 blocks. We would wait at the city limits and wait for them to come into our jurisdiction. If they did, we chased them forever. I had many of pursuits through Richmond and waved at many Richmond patrol cars as I went by. Their policy had no bearing on ours.
SF policies apply only to SF. CHP nor any other agency has to follow them.
Many years ago I worked for a small but very busy agency that bordered Richmond. Under one of their old chiefs they had a no pursuit policy so when they got behind a stolen vehicle and it ran their watch commander called them off after about 10 blocks. We would wait at the city limits and wait for them to come into our jurisdiction. If they did, we chased them forever. I had many of pursuits through Richmond and waved at many Richmond patrol cars as I went by. Their policy had no bearing on ours.
thanks for the explanation :)
silverbelt
02-28-2008, 11:52 PM
...im sure chp is supposed to honor SF's "no pursuit" policy
No they don't. Then again, if anything bad happens, the public knows exactly where to place the blame. Being liberal as SF is, I think the CHP would exercise great restraint before deciding to pursue. The no pursuit policy is there for a reason and whether or not the CHP agrees with it, I think they know the risks and avoid it unless absolutely necessary.
No they don't.
repost:twofinger
RolnCode3
02-28-2008, 11:56 PM
i dont see the guy facing much of a problem with a good lawyer. remember, the bike hasnt even been recovered.
People have been prosecuted for murder where no body has been found.
People have been prosecuted for murder where no body has been found.
ya, but this guy's white and lives in Marin
RolnCode3
02-29-2008, 01:01 AM
ya, but this guy's white and lives in Marin
:dunno
:dunno
ill give you a beautiful and recent example.
an ex-girl-i-dated's sister lives in Corta Madera in a bad-azz house with her husband. one night, at a restaurant/bar, they got into a huge fight. he ends up beating the crap out of her out in front of the restaurant with many witnesses. she's got a huge black eye among other injuries.
he gets arrested on the spot.
his daddy gets him the best attorney he could find which i heard first hand cost him $50k
everything was soon dismissed.......
ill give you a beautiful and recent example.
an ex-girl-i-dated's sister lives in Corta Madera in a bad-azz house with her husband. one night, at a restaurant/bar, they got into a huge fight. he ends up beating the crap out of her out in front of the restaurant with many witnesses. she's got a huge black eye among other injuries.
he gets arrested on the spot.
his daddy gets him the best attorney he could find which i heard first hand cost him $50k
everything was soon dismissed.......
FYI: You sound like an idiot when you tell that story. :rofl It's one of the worst examples I've read on barf and I'm not joking.
Do you think if the suspect that the CHP caught repeats your story to a judge, he can get off the hook? Or do you think a decision will be reached after the facts unique to this particular case including the police report are scrutinized carefully?
NorCalBusa
02-29-2008, 08:36 AM
SF policies apply only to SF. CHP nor any other agency has to follow them.
Many years ago I worked for a small but very busy agency that bordered Richmond. Under one of their old chiefs they had a no pursuit policy so when they got behind a stolen vehicle and it ran their watch commander called them off after about 10 blocks. We would wait at the city limits and wait for them to come into our jurisdiction. If they did, we chased them forever. I had many of pursuits through Richmond and waved at many Richmond patrol cars as I went by. Their policy had no bearing on ours.
Nowadays, the smart cop would call off any pursuit going into Richmond; Officer Safety. "91M5 is terminating the pursuit; traffic is light, roads clear and dry- but we are approaching Richmond- so show me 10-8, suspect is outstanding". Other LEO's come on; "Good thinking M5, nice call, we'll get 'em next time, whew that was close, you couldn't been 1,000 yards from the city limits..." What a shit town.
NorCalBusa
02-29-2008, 08:38 AM
No they don't. Then again, if anything bad happens, the public knows exactly where to place the blame. Being liberal as SF is, I think the CHP would exercise great restraint before deciding to pursue. The no pursuit policy is there for a reason and whether or not the CHP agrees with it, I think they know the risks and avoid it unless absolutely necessary.
Uh; no. CHP's policy is their policy- they don't have different ones for various counties, cities, zip codes, area codes or adjusted gross incomes*.
*Well, maybe for...
}Dragon{
02-29-2008, 09:17 AM
We would wait at the city limits and wait for them to come into our jurisdiction. If they did, we chased them forever. I had many of pursuits through Richmond and waved at many Richmond patrol cars as I went by. Their policy had no bearing on ours.
Richmond would always join the party when you started to take on rocks n' bottles... :laughing
ill give you a beautiful and recent example.
an ex-girl-i-dated's sister lives in Corta Madera in a bad-azz house with her husband. one night, at a restaurant/bar, they got into a huge fight. he ends up beating the crap out of her out in front of the restaurant with many witnesses. she's got a huge black eye among other injuries.
he gets arrested on the spot.
his daddy gets him the best attorney he could find which i heard first hand cost him $50k
everything was soon dismissed.......
Sounds like he got a 50k self paid fine; more than the courts would have fined him. Now lets see what happens if he does it again.
Nowadays, the smart cop would call off any pursuit going into Richmond; Officer Safety. "91M5 is terminating the pursuit; traffic is light, roads clear and dry- but we are approaching Richmond- so show me 10-8, suspect is outstanding". Other LEO's come on; "Good thinking M5, nice call, we'll get 'em next time, whew that was close, you couldn't been 1,000 yards from the city limits..." What a shit town.
And that's why you are not wearing a badge :twofinger What are you doing these days anyway? Send me an email.
NorCalBusa
02-29-2008, 02:18 PM
Naw, that ain't why. It was that thing with the Lindbergh baby; I'd moved on but the small minded background investigators couldn't get past it.
Richmond would always join the party when you started to take on rocks n' bottles... :laughing
Actually we were always going to aid CoCo when they started taking rocks. We never had that happen to us. It’s amazing how quick it stops when you get half a dozen cars pulling up and the sound of a bunch of MP-5 bolts slapping closed makes them think twice.
ctroutnerrun
02-29-2008, 02:35 PM
i dont see the guy facing much of a problem with a good lawyer. remember, the bike hasnt even been recovered.
"Osuna said Yuill told authorities he stashed the motorcycle in a San Francisco alley, but the bike had not been found as of late Tuesday"
Depending on what else he confessed to, a lawer might not make that much of a difference...
You are incorrect. We chase anywhere, anytime, any jurisdiction.
i'm also curious about how the chp is saying he was fleeing at 140mph in the city. im sure chp is supposed to honor SF's "no pursuit" policy, but i could be wrong
}Dragon{
02-29-2008, 03:32 PM
We chase anywhere, anytime, any jurisdiction.
You are starting to sound like this guy:
http://www.brandish.tv/images/johnbunnell.jpg
:laughing
Ouch......
You are starting to sound like this guy:
http://www.brandish.tv/images/johnbunnell.jpg
:laughing
antarius
02-29-2008, 09:12 PM
You are incorrect. We chase anywhere, anytime, any jurisdiction.
That made me laugh.
silverbelt
02-29-2008, 09:56 PM
adjusted gross incomes*.
*Well, maybe for...
:laughing
ctroutnerrun
02-29-2008, 10:29 PM
You are starting to sound like this guy:
http://www.brandish.tv/images/johnbunnell.jpg
:laughing
"these criminals used to think _____ was ______, but know the only ______ there going to see is the ______ behind bars":cool
:rofl
Sheriff John's Mad Libs!
"these criminals used to think _____ was ______, but know the only ______ there going to see is the ______ behind bars":cool
:rofl
nakedape
03-01-2008, 02:19 PM
Richmond: got pulled there by CHP driving cab. I pulled over under a big light over an open store. Cop has cotton in his ears (literally) and is yelling to me "I know why you guys are here, to buy narcotics". Since the fare didn't directly say that, I replied "I'm just driving for a living and my fare hasn't even got to his address yet". Cop insists on separating us and it's fucking raining and he wants me out of the car.
Fine, just let me sit in your nicely heated car while you question him. Fine, sit in back and don't touch anything, he says. Man, it's cramped back there, I had to sit sideways. He comes back and rails me again for bringing the guy out there. The reason he has cotton in his ears, is because....somebody threw an M-1000 under his car on a stop last week and it "blew the wheels off". He couldn't prove anything so he ordered us out of town.
The burly contractor guy out of New York, a welder or something, got his shit 5 minutes later in a 30-second stop sign exchange. I noticed he held it in his hand the whole time, ready to drop it. It was 60-80 bucks on the meter for those runs from Marin, but fuck it. I told my dispatcher, no more richmond.
Richmond: buddy has a yard for firewood behind the big tire shop at the end of Richmond Parkway. Leaving early am he bumps the gate against something and with his one good eye sees a woman laying there, gurgling out of a gunshot wound to the neck, a guy across the street is at the payphone (he saw her on the way in to work), so J figures "I'm so out of here". Within 24 hours, Richmond Homicide had all three lease holders for intense questioning, together and apart. Moral of the story: stay the fuck out of Richmond.
Back to the topic. When i got pinched for reckless (simple) and went to a lawyer, he asked me if I was a stunter. Then he told me a story going around the courthouse for awhile. Some guy on a Busa had been "commuting" from Sonoma County to SF and back at breakneck speeds for almost a year, blowing off CHP like ghostrider. He finally met his end when he clipped the rear bumper of a tractor trailer at speed and sheared his leg off completely.
I read that article with interest. Speed sucks (the meth kind). makes people do really stupid things 99% of the time, whereas alcohol only causes people to dumb shit 95% of the time. I prefer IPA..NApe
You are starting to sound like this guy:
http://www.brandish.tv/images/johnbunnell.jpg
:laughing
But what THESE suspects didn't realize, is that the California Highway Patrol can pursue ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, and through ANY jurisdiction.
Fixed.
}Dragon{
03-02-2008, 02:51 PM
But what THESE suspects didn't realize, is that the California Highway Patrol can pursue ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, and through ANY jurisdiction.
Fixed.
:rofl
Rel's gonna have his own TV show soon...
Havent you seen me on TV already?
:rofl
Rel's gonna have his own TV show soon...
Psychochik
03-02-2008, 08:19 PM
Havent you seen me on TV already?
Reno 911 ?? :laughing
Ummmmmm, no.
Reno 911 ?? :laughing
Dean129
03-03-2008, 12:42 AM
Funny enough I was around during one of the pursuits a few weeks ago when everyone got dusted by this guy. Mill Valley PD was attempting to chase the guy on Hwy. 101 when I trailed the lead pursuit vehicle. They had to be traveling 120 MPH and the bike was pulling away into the distance. Last I heard over the radio a while later was they lost him somewhere in the area of the Richmond Bridge.
I spoke to the CHP Officer that was in the lead pursuit vehicle on their last little jaunt into the city. (I was comitted to another call when it occurred) The CHP Officer told me in his opinion the guy couldn't ride for nothing in the twisties but the bike was just too fast in the straight aways to keep up.
Good for CHP to follow up on this and caught the guy.
Go CHP, its your birthday !!
LOL
:twofinger
Slow600rr
03-03-2008, 01:23 AM
There's a lot of hear say stuff in this thread. The charges will stick. He's screwed on the probation violation alone.
I noticed someone said the cops tack on the sales violation but they hardly stick. That's not true everywhere. I have seen it twice in my short career, once on a stop I made, where we knew the drugs were for sales. In both instances, we didn't arrest for sales knowing it wouldn't stick. My guess is this charge will stick.
This guy is a jack ass, and he deserved to be caught. The bike won't be found because no one cares to find it. No point in locating it at this point.
I have more to say on this particular case/subject, but will keep it to myself.
Good job CHP.
spoke to a sfpd leo today, she just laughed and said while their policy was to call off the chase, the chp would chase them as long as they ran. lol
silverbelt
03-03-2008, 11:30 AM
spoke to a sfpd leo today, she just laughed and said while their policy was to call off the chase, the chp would chase them as long as they ran. lol
:thumbup passing the responsibility and liability to another agency
its understandable i guess when your agency is run like a political organization with a backstabbing chief and douchebag mayor.
saizai
03-10-2008, 02:43 PM
Just curious though...
Is he hawt?
'Cause, you know, those pretty boys get some extra-special attention behind bars...
From you, perhaps? I heard chicks dig pretty boys who drive fast... :p
140 over the bridge and in any city neighborhood is uber excessive though. I wonder what traffic was like at the time? To stay that fast for more than a second you'd probably have to laneshare at some insane delta...
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