Two questions, unrelated to each other.

[RolnCode3]

1) If you have a green sticker vehicle operating on a public roadway (highway) what do you write for? If the driver is suspended/revoked can you write for 14601? Is the vehicle towable per 14602.6 or 22651p?

Do you use one of the subsections of 38025? 38026 for the actual riding violation?

2) Are there any Glock armorers on the board? I have a technical question about "passive firing pin safeties" specifically relating to Glocks.

[Baychilla]

Does a past armorer count?

[RolnCode3]

Does a past armorer count?
If you're familiar with the current production types. Need to know if the G26, G27, G36 and G30 have a "passive firing pin safety".

Our backup weapon policy is being written to exclude any gun that does not have one. One of our rangemasters is convinced Glocks don't have one (he said that's what he's been told). So if I can prove that the Glocks DO have one, I'll be able to carry one. If they don't then I need to get busy finding what I will carry. Main reason I want one is size and weight.

Or if anyone knows how to contact Glock directly and ask someone, other than the contact info copied below. I'll probably eventually need to get written documentation as well.

GLOCK, Inc.
6000 Highlands Parkway
Smyrna, GA 30082
U.S.A.
Tel.: +1 770 - 432 1202
Fax: +1 770 - 433 8719

[Baychilla]

Glocks have 3 safetys. The first is that little block in the trigger itself, the second is a firing pin block similar that that of the Series 80+ Colt (firing pin is physically blocked from moving forward to strike the cartridge by a pin that is only moved via trigger activation). The third is a drop safety. All 3 are passive.


http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm


Their links are glitchy and the page doesn't want to display correctly in FireFox, but if you go to the above link, click on glock advantage; that should take you to the start of a multi page show the first few parts of which deal with the safety systems.

You can see how item #3 works by taking the slide off a glock and trying to manually push or force the striker forward. Then use a ballpoint pen or small screwdriver to push the striker block out of the way and move the striker forward.

[L-2]

2) Are there any Glock armorers on the board? I have a technical question about "passive firing pin safeties" specifically relating to Glocks.

Yes, I am. PM sent.

[Iszlandsnow]

1) If you have a green sticker vehicle operating on a public roadway (highway) what do you write for? If the driver is suspended/revoked can you write for 14601? Is the vehicle towable per 14602.6 or 22651p?

38025 since he wasnt going more than just crossing the street. Get a continuation form and scratch em for: no insurance, no headlight, no M1 (in case), no stop lamp, no tail lamp, no mirrors, no helmet, no mirrors, no locking gas cap...14601 would work and the P tow is good enough (unless superknowledgeabale Motorman4life says otherwise).

[T-1 Thunder]

Need to know if the G26, G27, G36 and G30 have a "passive firing pin safety".

You're putting it into quotations and using the word passive, as if there is another type (active??) of firing pin safety.

You check to see if you have it just like you check to see if you have 4wheeldrive - get under the truck and see if there's a driveline to the front axle.

In your case, take the gun apart, and ensure that as you engage the firing pin - it does not protrude the flats with the pin. Notice there will be a bar or switch along the slide on the inside that correlates to the trigger bar or switch on the lower. Depress that and once again engage the firing pin and it should protrude past the flat this time, where it would hit the round. :thumbup

[JPM]

1) If you have a green sticker vehicle operating on a public roadway (highway) what do you write for? If the driver is suspended/revoked can you write for 14601? Is the vehicle towable per 14602.6 or 22651p?

Do you use one of the subsections of 38025? 38026 for the actual riding violation?

2) Are there any Glock armorers on the board? I have a technical question about "passive firing pin safeties" specifically relating to Glocks.

If they are operating on a highway (Not counting what is allowed in 38025) they are 4000(a) and can be cited for such (And insurance and any equipment violations that they are lacking as pointed out by Iszlandsnow). Suspended CDL applies and you can tow for 14602.6 if their CDL is suspended for anything except for non-payment of child support if allowed by your departmental policy. Otherwise you can tow for 22651(p).

[RolnCode3]

Thanks guys. We often get jackasses riding ATVs and dirt bikes around, acting like idiots.

You're putting it into quotations and using the word passive, as if there is another type (active??) of firing pin safety.

Written that way because it's a specific item. I have no doubt that the Glocks are safe to carry (I have a 23 as an off-duty gun), but policy is very specific about this one particular item, and I need to make sure I bring documentation, because he won't just believe it.

[L-2]

http://www.glock.com/images/tips_firingpin.gif
From the glock.com website:
"FIRING PIN SAFETY
The GLOCK firing pin safety is a solid hardened steel pin which, in the secured state, blocks the firing pin channel, rendering the igniting of a chambered cartridge by the firing pin impossible. The firing pin safety is only pushed upward to release the firing pin for firing when the trigger is pulled and the safety is pushed up through the backward movement of the trigger bar. Releasing the trigger will automatically reactivate the firing pin safety."

L-2, a Glock Certified Armorer