View Full Version : CHP- 539 new LIDAR's
NorCalBusa
03-02-2008, 09:15 AM
LTI TrueSpeed (http://www.lasertech.com/Speed_Enforcement/Speed/Handheld/TruSpeed.htm) won the bid this week. Now, as long as DGS doesn't meddle and make them buy some crap from Laser Atlanta instead...$1.3mm by the way.
This is one model down from the ones they got last year- still works just as well, just no Total Station interface and angle calculations.
}Dragon{
03-02-2008, 09:55 AM
LTI TrueSpeed (http://www.lasertech.com/Speed_Enforcement/Speed/Handheld/TruSpeed.htm) won the bid this week. Now, as long as DGS doesn't meddle and make them buy some crap from Laser Atlanta instead...$1.3mm by the way.
This is one model down from the ones they got last year- still works just as well, just no Total Station interface and angle calculations.
How can we stop this?!?!?!?:cry
:laughing
Are they going to mount them on the heads of sharks?
(obscure Austin Powers reference)
Love using LIDAR...... just waiting for Dragon to enter my sight picture.
antarius
03-02-2008, 11:30 AM
My department is looking at getting LIDAR for me (er, the motors). How are the Stalker Dual Lidar units?
LTI TrueSpeed (http://www.lasertech.com/Speed_Enforcement/Speed/Handheld/TruSpeed.htm) won the bid this week. Now, as long as DGS doesn't meddle and make them buy some crap from Laser Atlanta instead...$1.3mm by the way.
This is one model down from the ones they got last year- still works just as well, just no Total Station interface and angle calculations.
What happened with them going to Stalker? Kinda stupid to have one manufacture for the radars and a different for the Lidars.
My department is looking at getting LIDAR for me (er, the motors). How are the Stalker Dual Lidar units?
They are good units but I found they are very front heavy. We had a test unit and I found my arm got tired because of the weight of it and the angle of the handle made it nose heavy. I quit using it after a very short time and went back to my Pro-Laser.
Contact Stalker and Kustom and get a demo unit of both, they will give you a 30 day trial. If you need to send me a PM and I get you set up with a rep for either company if you need.
NorCalBusa
03-02-2008, 07:24 PM
My department is looking at getting LIDAR for me (er, the motors). How are the Stalker Dual Lidar units?
Stalker Dual is a Ka band, non directional radar (it is not a not a Lidar)- works great, digital antenna- but it's the bottom model and a little long in the tooth. Whatcha want (bike or car) is the "Stalker DSR-2X" for radar and the LTI or Kustom Lidar (Stalker's Lidar will work "okay", but for the same dough, you can get a really good one from LTI or Kustom). PM me if you need a hookup for any of that stuff.
The DSR-2x is an AMAZING radar, I'd get a cramp trying to type it all up!
NorCalBusa
03-02-2008, 07:25 PM
What happened with them going to Stalker? Kinda stupid to have one manufacture for the radars and a different for the Lidars.
Part of the wonder of CHP's purchasing paradigm- but as said, the LTI and Kustom are superior Lidars..
NorCalBusa
03-02-2008, 07:26 PM
They are good units but I found they are very front heavy. We had a test unit and I found my arm got tired because of the weight of it and the angle of the handle made it nose heavy. I quit using it after a very short time and went back to my Pro-Laser.
Sissy- time to hit the gym! :rofl
Sissy- time to hit the gym! :rofl
:laughing Sorry I have not built up my forearm muscles as much as you!:twofinger
}Dragon{
03-03-2008, 09:00 AM
:laughing Sorry I have not built up my forearm muscles as much as you!:twofinger
:rofl
NorCalBusa
03-03-2008, 01:53 PM
It's those super short strokes dude...not much you can do about that.
supertireguy
03-03-2008, 06:51 PM
Does Lidar have a more difficult task acquiring the speed of motorcycles, with their plastic front ends and lack of a forward facing license plate?
I think the beam probably reflects very well in the headlight reflector housing. Now I have to invent and install some laser absorbent material on the bike now. Wish me luck. :twofinger
NorCalBusa
03-03-2008, 06:55 PM
Does Lidar have a more difficult task acquiring the speed of motorcycles, with their plastic front ends and lack of a forward facing license plate?
I think the beam probably reflects very well in the headlight reflector housing. Now I have to invent and install some laser absorbent material on the bike now. Wish me luck. :twofinger
Depends. They rely on reflected infrared light, so whatever works!!
You'll see a lot more 5200 VC citations issued, thats for sure.
Depends. They rely on reflected infrared light, so whatever works!!
It’s all on how good and steady you are in holding the Lidar. I can lock on Lidar just as fast and usually faster than my partner does with his radar. Then again I use Lidar 95% of the time so I have a lot of practice.
Junkie
03-03-2008, 10:57 PM
You'll see a lot more 5200 VC citations issued, thats for sure.wonder if they'll decide bikes need front plates so LIDAR works better
That's what helmets are for.....
wonder if they'll decide bikes need front plates so LIDAR works better
NorCalBusa
03-04-2008, 08:29 AM
The strategy for avoiding a ticket is much the same as radar; none are foolproof, just reducing your odds;
Don't speed (ya think?)
Be in a pack of traffic
Don't be in front
Don't be THE fastest one out there, ever
Wait for a rabbit, let them tow you for awhile, let it go, rinse/repeat.
Position yourself so there's something blocking your line-of-sight profile from wherever the Lidar might be (yeah- front AND rear)
Buy a Valentine 1 (and use it)
All that, and a good operator can still get ya.
Junkie
03-04-2008, 08:42 AM
That's what helmets are for.....hmm, any trouble getting hits on people wearing helmets with very little coverage?
NorCalBusa
03-04-2008, 08:48 AM
hmm, any trouble getting hits on people wearing helmets with very little coverage?
Just reduces the range is all. Like radar- there won't be be a speed reading error- just need the target closer. Targeting is typically done in the <1200' range, so a couple hundred feet closer doesn't matter.:nerd
}Dragon{
03-04-2008, 08:50 AM
The strategy for avoiding a ticket is much the same as radar; none are foolproof, just reducing your odds;
Don't speed (ya think?)
Be in a pack of traffic
Don't be in front
Don't be THE fastest one out there, ever
Wait for a rabbit, let them tow you for awhile, let it go, rinse/repeat.
Position yourself so there's something blocking your line-of-sight profile from wherever the Lidar might be (yeah- front AND rear)
Buy a Valentine 1 (and use it)
All that, and a good operator can still get ya.
360 degree awareness and watch your six.
(The only thing the Valentine1 will do is let you know you've already been lit up- the best laser/radar detector is the one between your ears.)
NorCalBusa
03-04-2008, 09:00 AM
360 degree awareness and watch your six.
(The only thing the Valentine1 will do is let you know you've already been lit up- )
Wholeheartedly disagree on the V1- it is very useful. Will it alone, save your ass? Sometimes, but don't count on it. It's part of one's "avoidance toolbox"! :ride
Allot of people think radar detectors are a waste of money. They think that if the officer see's you and then points and shoots you’re done. Well this is pretty much true. But if the officer is aiming for someone else and you’re in the area the chances are pretty good your detector is going to pick up those radar signals letting you know that there is a officer around and its time to slow down. On the freeway were CHP usually drive with their radar units on I can tell they are coming a good 20-30 seconds when traveling in the opposite direction. They help if you know how to use them.
As far as lidar goes. I have never picked up a reflection or wide beam. I usually see CHP shooting everyday in the same spot, aiming at the group of traffic that I am in and it has never gone alerted me to their presence. (Thank god) because I know if it does then they are aiming it at me.
Razel
03-04-2008, 06:42 PM
As far as lidar goes. I have never picked up a reflection or wide beam. I usually see CHP shooting everyday in the same spot, aiming at the group of traffic that I am in and it has never gone alerted me to their presence. (Thank god) because I know if it does then they are aiming it at me.
A lot depends on how accurate they are when pointing the lidar at you. If they have a refective surface 1 foot away from your detector, your detector won't alert you even though you're "tagged". The beam is very narrow, unlike radar. Basically, they have to hit your detector for it to go off.
Lidar is a laser. There is no beam. Just like taking a picture. Point and shoot. I can get a target 1200 feet away, however, I normally don't shoot until my target is 700-800 feet, just to make sure I have the right vehicle.
A lot depends on how accurate they are when pointing the lidar at you. If they have a refective surface 1 foot away from your detector, your detector won't alert you even though you're "tagged". The beam is very narrow, unlike radar. Basically, they have to hit your detector for it to go off.
}Dragon{
03-04-2008, 08:11 PM
A lot depends on how accurate they are when pointing the lidar at you. .
Ray- the further the target is away from the LIDAR, the wider the beam.
NorCalBusa
03-04-2008, 08:22 PM
[QUOTE=Rel;3774536]Lidar is a laser. There is no beam.
No visible beam, but there is an infrared beam...otherwise, it's a very expensive paperweight.
NorCalBusa
03-04-2008, 08:25 PM
Ray- the further the target is away from the LIDAR, the wider the beam.
Indeed- about 1.5' at 500' feet out, 3' at 1,000', 6' at 2,000'. I've only seen one acquire at 2,000 when on a tripod.
Indeed- about 1.5' at 500' feet out, 3' at 1,000', 6' at 2,000'. I've only seen one acquire at 2,000 when on a tripod.
What :wow You watching a bunch of 80 year old junkies? Farthest I've got a reading was a little over 2600 feet. I can regularly get them at 2100-2300 feet free-hand.
NorCalBusa
03-04-2008, 10:36 PM
Naw- just that Stalker Lidars suck...
Razel
03-05-2008, 11:47 AM
Ray- the further the target is away from the LIDAR, the wider the beam.
Ah. Not like the lasers I work with, then. 1½-foot beam at 500 feet is a lot more dispersion than even those laser pointers.
NorCalBusa
03-05-2008, 01:17 PM
Ah. Not like the lasers I work with, then. 1½-foot beam at 500 feet is a lot more dispersion than even those laser pointers.
Yep. Speed enforcement Lidars only need a range of 1500-2000' tops, everything beyond that is just for fun.:cry
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