U.S. Marines Hard at fighting the war

[10Rtracker]

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43462/9fb16ab3/us_soldaat_gooit_puppy.html


Edit: Hope he falls in the cliff too (living bomb out) Ok! :teeth

:rip puppy

[JesasaurusRex]

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43462/9fb16ab3/us_soldaat_gooit_puppy.html


Where’s a roadside bomb when you need one




You're an idiot

[spddrcr]

ummm....... and why would he be an idiot? people who torture and maim animals for fun desearve what they get, and the idiots manning the camera should have stopped him. karma is a bitch, and i cant believe anyone would stick up for such a piece of shit human:rolleyes

[JesasaurusRex]

ummm....... and why would he be an idiot? people who torture and maim animals for fun desearve what they get, and the idiots manning the camera should have stopped him. karma is a bitch, and i cant believe anyone would stick up for such a piece of shit human:rolleyes

Do a search for an animal cruelty thread

you have your opinions, I have mine.

"Karma is justice without the satisfaction"

[Mike T]

well...ok...i think dogs and such are considered pests over there...we have rats, they have rogue dogs...

the video is pretty sad though....but the comment made by 10Rtracker about roadside bombs wasnt needed

thats my:2cents

[HRCrider]

What a piece of shit that fuck is. It is assholes like that, that embarass Americans who are over there trying to do good. The road side bomb thing, is uncalled for and you are pretty much the same as the guy who threw the dog for saying it.

[kneedragon2000]

What a piece of shit that fuck is. It is assholes like that, that embarass Americans who are over there trying to do good. The road side bomb thing, is uncalled for and you are pretty much the same as the guy who threw the dog for saying it.

+1
neither was called for :mad

[10Rtracker]

You're an idiot

Don’t get all :mad
I don’t want the bomb to kill them just throw them 50 or so feet in the air so they know what it fills like :teeth

On a side note: I will kill any animal if I have to but for fun is just fuckup

[07chuck]

War does fucked up things to people, I'm sure that after having seen a few bodies with their insides on the outsides that throwing a puppy off a cliff dosen't seem all that bad.

War changes people...

[Critter]

War does fucked up things to people, I'm sure that after having seen a few bodies with their insides on the outsides that throwing a puppy off a cliff dosen't seem all that bad.

War changes people...

*sigh* Yeah :|:( sad

[Anti-Hero]

That was a pretty fucked up thing for that soldier to do. War does change people, but there is no excuse for being a sadistic piece of shit. Thats not the kind of person I want representing my country.

He doesn't need a roadside bomb, but he does need a court marshal and a dishonorable discharge.

[kneedragon2000]

That was a pretty fucked up thing for that soldier to do. War does change people, but there is no excuse for being a sadistic piece of shit. Thats not the kind of person I want representing my country.

He doesn't need a roadside bomb, but he does need a court marshal and a dishonorable discharge.

yea that wont happen for throwing a puppy.

[2nsane]

You're an idiot

watch it bub:wtf If I saw that asshat do that to the dog he would be finding himslef cleaning shitters along with a reduction in rank and if I had it my way a discharge. He is a fucktard and even more stupid for letting it get on the net. he is fuxord for sure when his command finds out his happy day's are over. War or not.
dis hon discharge he wont get but a reduction for sure.
and his name is thrown out there to boot, shit now I have to go back to work.

[tzrider]

Did anyone else notice that puppy doesn't move at all? I can't be sure, but I think it was a stuffed toy.

[kneedragon2000]

dogs, as well as most other animals go motionless when you grab them by the scruff

[jtigert]

I would like to throw that soldiers baby off of a cliff and see how it cries as it's brain matter litter's the ground.

[racergirl]

what fucking idiots. Even smarter to video themselves and put it on the internet.
:applause :|

[Mike T]

what fucking idiots. Even smarter to video themselves and put it on the internet.
:applause :|

true...online media is a flourishing....this video is gonna get leaked everywhere and theyre gonna be screwed...

[B-Cuz]

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43462/9fb16ab3/us_soldaat_gooit_puppy.html
Where’s a roadside bomb when you need one


Don’t get all :mad
I don’t want the bomb to kill them just throw them 50 or so feet in the air so they know what it fills like :teeth

On a side note: I will kill any animal if I have to but for fun is just fuckup

I am not defending those idiots on the video and frankly I find it disgusting. But these comments are some bullshit. Remember as mentioned before in the previous posts, war changes people. I am not the same, left to go over at 22, came back 23 but with experiences that only a small minority can share. Ever been on a convoy watching for IEDs to make sure your truck isn't the one next to it before it goes off? Yea it fucking sucks as you could imagine. When we witness an IED go off next to a vehicle all we can say is, "well damn at least it wasn't me". Watch what you say because you never know who's going to see it.

[Zerox]

Looks like he's fuxored:

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2008/03/marine_puppy_video_030308/

http://heraldnet.com/article/20080303/NEWS01/367822819

[Cdgskater]

Terrible video...

[10Rtracker]

I am not defending those idiots on the video and frankly I find it disgusting. But these comments are some bullshit. Remember as mentioned before in the previous posts, war changes people. I am not the same, left to go over at 22, came back 23 but with experiences that only a small minority can share. Ever been on a convoy watching for IEDs to make sure your truck isn't the one next to it before it goes off? Yea it fucking sucks as you could imagine. When we witness an IED go off next to a vehicle all we can say is, "well damn at least it wasn't me". Watch what you say because you never know who's going to see it.



My comments might get some of you mad. But that just my 2cents no one said the truth don’t hurt. My friend been back for about 2yrs because he lost an eye and he even said the some shit.
That some soldiers their do fuckup shit and say well it’s war.

War do changes people but it’s not an excuse to do fuckup things.
So what’s next, Soldier throw crying baby out a window because he can’t sleep. But that’s OK because war changes him sooo sad.

[easy_rider]

WHAT A FUCKIN ASSHOLE:mad:deadhorse

[crawl]

Where’s a roadside bomb when you need one

:rip puppy


+1

[Mike T]

http://www.grunt.com/images-bs/iraq/puppy.jpg
http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0506/USMC_Marine.jpg

just because one Marine fucked up didnt mean the rest of them fucked up....

[racergirl]

Looks like he's fuxored:

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2008/03/marine_puppy_video_030308/

http://heraldnet.com/article/20080303/NEWS01/367822819


good

[IrFuji]

He will get whats coming to him. Do not lump a group of people in based on the actions of a few bad apples. that's the exact same mentality that draws statements like, all motorcycle riders should be pulled over because they will just speed anyway. how many times have we seen posts in the LEO forum where LEO's who ride stick up for their fellow riders when one of their buddies has a bad run in with a moron on a bike?

His actions were deplorable. the war changing people is not so much an excuse as it is an explanation. it does not excuse his actions, but merely explains them. one of my buddies came back and we sat around drinking while he told us stories of clearing houses. I'll always remember the look on his face when he said his Sarge walked up some stairs and got his head taken off right in front of him. Then having to jump off the stairs and dive into a room to avoid a grenade while his buddies are screaming for him because they think hes dead.

I hope never to have to go through something like that. I cannot imagine what i'd be like if I did. The marines actions are not acceptable, but considering insanity is a well known defense perhaps we should consider what he's been through and err on the side of getting him the help he needs vice saying we should car bomb him and others who probably had nothing to do with this act.

[MtnRacer]

Not that it excuses his behavior, but that dog looks pretty fuckin' dead to me.

Steve

[racergirl]

Not that it excuses his behavior, but that dog looks pretty fuckin' dead to me.

Steve

i read that opinion in the lil article, but what about the whimpering thats heard as he is flying to his death?
And i think most animals freeze up like that when u grab them by the scruff.


any who.....

[splat]

It's a pretty difficult thing when you're thousands of miles away from home. When you're at work everyone at home is in bed. When you're back in your can lounging around, everyone stateside is at work. Times don't coincide, you can only talk to your family so much on the phone. Everyone has and is circulating the same movies. Books get hard to read when there's possible IDF attacks, you've got to worry about getting kidnapped and beheaded. You have to do convoys over 14 different bridges, prime spot for IED's. Your convoy has been attacked thru SAF (small arms fire) and a few IED's. There's been intel going on about SVBIED heading your way, blah blah blah...

Oh, and most of my Marines are 19-21 years old. Barely old enough to be called an adult...In reality, they're just kids.

I was there. I was an immature kid, trying to survive in that place your teachers, your parents, your siblings told you about...the place they call "The Real World." Throw in stresses of combat, fatigue, instability, and any/everything else that comes with the fog of war, and you've got people trying to entertain themselves. We still have adults, full grown men, acting like kids. We have young kids, 18-19, acting like mature adults. It's everywhere in life. Teachers, Firefighters, LEO's, Lawyers, Pastors, Priests, so on and so forth...

I haven't watched the Video, Internet here is too slow, and I'm not backing him up. I'm just simply saying that these guys over here doing all the work are the lower ranking guys...E1-E6(7). For the most part they're young, and they'll do what young kids do. They get scared like teenagers, I know i do every time i go on a convoy. They don't get much time to themselves because there's always someone there watching...unfortunately, it's not always the right person watching. In a land where the people hate you, because you're free to believe in any God you want, It's hard to find comfort in very many places.

For you to say that a roadside bombs is needed for this guy is as smart as those protesters saying the Service men and Women dying here are because God hates gays.

I'm glad I'm fighting for you to be able to say whatever you want. But I'm glad I'm smart enough to not wish ill-will on anyone. Karma works ever which way.

[tzrider]

i read that opinion in the lil article, but what about the whimpering thats heard as he is flying to his death?
And i think most animals freeze up like that when u grab them by the scruff.


any who.....

A number of sites have pointed out that the whimpering doesn't get softer or have any doppler effect as the dog flies into the distance. Maybe it's just me hoping this is a fake, but that's how it looks to me right now. It's sick either way, but one scenario is infinitely sicker than the other.

[B-Cuz]

My comments might get some of you mad. But that just my 2cents no one said the truth don’t hurt. My friend been back for about 2yrs because he lost an eye and he even said the some shit.
That some soldiers their do fuckup shit and say well it’s war.

War do changes people but it’s not an excuse to do fuckup things.
So what’s next, Soldier throw crying baby out a window because he can’t sleep. But that’s OK because war changes him sooo sad.

Read the first line of my comment one more time and then try again. Try to stay on topic by the way because I'm calling out the IED comments you stated.

[Rogue]

Let's get the full story first. Looks pucked up on the video but I want to see
the other previous mins of that vid. That dog could be dead already. How many times have we seen chopped vids of soldiers looking like they did something terrible only to find out it's a different story when you actually watch the entire video.

[jdhu]

looks like a stuffed animal to me

[stigeon]

if the internet is not lying then those young men are an planet-sized embarrassment to the USMC, the USA and human beings in general.

if the internet is lying....

i guess that's the question, then.

for everyone who has already condemned or absolved these guys just remember we're seeing something through a lens and out of context.

maybe these guys are bigger fucktards than they already appear. or maybe their sense of humor has just been warped by their environment. or maybe (just maybe) they're the victims of some raging, Code Pink/Iranian, U.S. government-hater who is taking advantage of their (questionable) actions and fluffing them up to incite anti-military sentiment. like the Vietnamese did in their war.

all i'm saying is if they're guilty, bring the pain. if not... don't treat them like the Duke Lacrosse Team.

[stigeon]

oh yeah, and while i appreciate sarcasm, usually, in this case this thread title isn't appreciated because it makes the decision for you of their guilt.

if the evidence is condemning then let it speak for itself. again, the Duke Lacrosse teams plight comes to mind. judge lightly.

[jdhu]

oh yeah, and while i appreciate sarcasm, usually, in this case this thread title isn't appreciated because it makes the decision for you of their guilt.

if the evidence is condemning then let it speak for itself. again, the Duke Lacrosse teams plight comes to mind. judge lightly.

I understand your point, but its not like what anyone says/thinks online matters. Who cares if we judge lightly or harshly? Who cares what the (buffoonish) OP titles this thread?

[B-Cuz]

I understand your point, but its not like what anyone says/thinks online matters. Who cares if we judge lightly or harshly? Who cares what the (buffoonish) OP titles this thread?

It's a matter of being fair and non-judgmental. Better to debate a topic than go on a witch hunt. The Marine Corps has already begun it's investigation into the matter based on the above posted links.

[jdhu]

It's a matter of being fair and non-judgmental. Better to debate a topic than go on a witch hunt. The Marine Corps has already begun it's investigation into the matter based on the above posted links.

Right, I understand the analogy with the Duke players. My point is that complaining about the title of this thread, and telling posters to "judge lightly" is pointless.

This is the Kitchen Sink of BARF after all, where bored people go to waste time with each other.

[10Rtracker]

http://www.grunt.com/images-bs/iraq/puppy.jpg
http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0506/USMC_Marine.jpg

just because one Marine fucked up didnt mean the rest of them fucked up....


Mike T thank you for seeing it.
Some people have their eyes open but can’t see. I can’t tell you what to see you have to see it for yourself for what it means to you.
And YES NOT ALL MARINE ARE FUCKED UP

[stigeon]

Right, I understand the analogy with the Duke players. My point is that complaining about the title of this thread, and telling posters to "judge lightly" is pointless.

This is the Kitchen Sink of BARF after all, where bored people go to waste time with each other.

why is it 'pointless' to remind people to treat other people with the same fairness and objectivity they would like to see given themselves?

if you truly understand the analogy i was making then i don't believe you'd find the reminder pointless.

and that's ALL that it was - a reminder. if you don't like someone telling you what to do/think then come out and tell me to not tell you what to do/think. but saying that reminding people to be good and fair doesn't belong here just 'cause it's the KS just seems shallow. the KS is for non-moto related gossip. nothin' says it can't be serious.

and FYI to anyone who doesn't understand the UCMJ: These Marines are probably FUCKED now, regardless of their innocence or guilt. Article 132 Non-Judicial Punishment is likely in store for them even if the full video tape proves the dog was dead and that they had the tape stolen and it was edited and posted by some radical CODE PINK person just to make them look like assholes. Shit... if they were just CGI'd in there their chain of command would probably still find them at fault. hehehe. That's the nature of the beast.

this video tape is international, already. and the USMC will have someone punished, publicly, to show they've done something about the 'problem' and don't condone those actions. It's no longer about right and wrong for them or the boys. it's about public relations with the world.

i feel sorry for them if they are FUCKTARDS who torture animals. and i feel sorry for them if they aren't.

[B-Cuz]

Mike T thank you for seeing it.
Some people have their eyes open but can’t see. I can’t tell you what to see you have to see it for yourself for what it means to you.
And YES NOT ALL MARINE ARE FUCKED UP

What the hell are you talking about? Since Mike posts up pictures (which are awesome btw) to show that not all Marines are fucking idiots, it gives you the okay to make light of getting hit with roadside bombs? You're damn right I'm not "seeing it", so why don't you clue me in a bit.

[gOtChA_RC-51]

That puppy is not a stuffed animal nor is it already dead prior to it being chuck off the cliff in the video.......when you pick up a puppy from behind it's neck or scruff it will naturally stop moving.....this is because by doing this, you are simulating what a parent dog would do in order to transport the young pups to a new location......

and that dude is fucked up, hope he gets punished.....

[10Rtracker]

What the hell are you talking about? Since Mike posts up pictures (which are awesome btw) to show that not all Marines are fucking idiots, it gives you the okay to make light of getting hit with roadside bombs? You're damn right I'm not "seeing it", so why don't you clue me in a bit.


Ok this is what I see
A person who trained so hard to be a marine for what a marine stand for. To fight for people, for human rights and then do something inhumane. I know some marine would kick this guy’s ass for doing what they did or at less be punished for it. A lot of people will see this around the world and what would they see about the United States Marine? That two marines are fucked up or that they’re all fucked up I hope not cause my friend lost his eye helping to give food to people there.


As for the bomb it represent power over the marines like they had power over the puppy
You saw it as to kill them or I want them dead. Even though I never said anything about I want them dead or be killed by one. You saw one word bomb and got all fired up. I take it your in the military/marine and
May lost some friends on a roadside bomb I have respect for you and your friends that are in this war (As long as you’re not like this guys)
Imagine the dog to be the marine and the soldiers are the bomb. You have the power to
pick someone or some animal up and throw them 100ft. would you do it for fun? Is that what your trained for.
I’m not strong to pick up a person but a bomb can. Like I said I don’t want the bomb to kill
them just to let them know what it fill like to be throw 100ft when someone is more powerful then you and use it for fun to a person or animal is just fucked up. Hey at leases a bomb has no brains.

Read the post and see what others see. Some question the dog more then the action of the marines. This is OK because
It’s wartime
It changes him
Dogs are like rats there
Thousand of dogs there
Dog is dead
Dog is a toy
And on and on

[jdhu]

why is it 'pointless' to remind people to treat other people with the same fairness and objectivity they would like to see given themselves?

if you truly understand the analogy i was making then i don't believe you'd find the reminder pointless.

and that's ALL that it was - a reminder. if you don't like someone telling you what to do/think then come out and tell me to not tell you what to do/think. but saying that reminding people to be good and fair doesn't belong here just 'cause it's the KS just seems shallow. the KS is for non-moto related gossip. nothin' says it can't be serious.


You miss my point, which probably was not stated well. I agree that people should remain calm, wait until all the details are verified, etc.

But, it is absolutely pointless to come into the KS to "remind" people to do so. Do any of us have any say in what happens to these Marines (assuming the video is what it seems to be)?

It would be (infinitesimally) more productive to write a letter to your local Marine office, the Pentagon, your Congressman, etc than to come into the KS and lecture people. We are all irrelevant as far as this incident is concerned.

Discussing serious issues is fine, I do so here myself. I am simply saying that it does nothing to lecture KS'ers to "judge lightly." Who cares how we judge?

[jdhu]

That puppy is not a stuffed animal nor is it already dead prior to it being chuck off the cliff in the video.......when you pick up a puppy from behind it's neck or scruff it will naturally stop moving.....this is because by doing this, you are simulating what a parent dog would do in order to transport the young pups to a new location......

and that dude is fucked up, hope he gets punished.....

OK, all you are saying is that we cannot prove that it wasn't a real dog. That is NOT proof that it was indeed a real dog.

[stigeon]

...We are all irrelevant as far as this incident is concerned.

Discussing serious issues is fine, I do so here myself. I am simply saying that it does nothing to lecture KS'ers to "judge lightly." Who cares how we judge?

as far as the incident, yes we're irrelevant. as far as the issues that it involves we are not irrelevant or immune. that's why this is being discussed in the first place, awareness.

and that's all we're doing, is discussing it. if this were a lecture i'd be talking at you in a classroom or at work or somesuch. this is a forum for communication, which means the talking goes both ways (and, hopefully, listening). that's why i read what you said and responded. i'm nobody special. and i did not make that 'judge lightly' comment with the perception, belief or intent that i'd change the worlds view of this, let alone the BARF KS.

i firmly subscribe to the, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't force them to drink" philosophy. i don't think i can force anyone to change who they are and i will never waste my time trying or believing i can make other people do anything. but i can help people choose....

if one person read it and chooses to take that message to heart as opposed to jumping on the "lynch them/burn them" bandwagon, it was worth the time it took me to type it. and if no one choses to? oh well, i'm glad i said something and effected nothing as opposed to saying nothing and leaving the possibility out there that i, or anyone else, might have left something undone (that could have been).

who cares how we (the people in barf ks, i guess you mean) judge? well i think everyone cares, to certain degrees, how people judge things on a very basic level. for example: how do we judge humor? i'd better take that into consideration before posting what i think is a joke. otherwise it might just come off as dumb and not funny.

and all that aside - and back the the op's topic - those marines are royally hosed.

[jdhu]

as far as the incident, yes we're irrelevant. as far as the issues that it involves we are not irrelevant or immune. that's why this is being discussed in the first place, awareness.

and that's all we're doing, is discussing it. if this were a lecture i'd be talking at you in a classroom or at work or somesuch. this is a forum for communication, which means the talking goes both ways (and, hopefully, listening). that's why i read what you said and responded. i'm nobody special. and i did not make that 'judge lightly' comment with the perception, belief or intent that i'd change the worlds view of this, let alone the BARF KS.

i firmly subscribe to the, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't force them to drink" philosophy. i don't think i can force anyone to change who they are and i will never waste my time trying or believing i can make other people do anything. but i can help people choose....

if one person read it and chooses to take that message to heart as opposed to jumping on the "lynch them/burn them" bandwagon, it was worth the time it took me to type it. and if no one choses to? oh well, i'm glad i said something and effected nothing as opposed to saying nothing and leaving the possibility out there that i, or anyone else, might have left something undone (that could have been).

who cares how we (the people in barf ks, i guess you mean) judge? well i think everyone cares, to certain degrees, how people judge things on a very basic level. for example: how do we judge humor? i'd better take that into consideration before posting what i think is a joke. otherwise it might just come off as dumb and not funny.


Ehh, cool, whatever. I still say it does not matter what any KS'er thinks. We are here to pass some time, share a few thoughts, and that's it. I don't care what someone else here might think, how they pass judgment, etc. This changes obviously if they are in some position of power that might affect my life.

Again, who cares if people in this thread jump to conclusions? Unless they plan to go and make death threats (as apparently some people have done) etc, it does not matter. They can think how they want. For example, I agree that the OP sounds like an idiot for his roadside bomb comment, but really...who cares what he says?

[stigeon]

They can think how they want. For example, I agree that the OP sounds like an idiot for his roadside bomb comment, but really...who cares what he says?

fair enough :D

[Dmk510f4i]

As someone who used to be a vet tech I have seen my share of dogs that were dying or dead..And there are a few things that made me think this dog was already deceased..

Yes animals tent to freeze when scruffed, but a dog of that size would most likely kick its legs(back legs at least) around if being held like that. It's front legs looked to be stuck in a very unnatural position, a sign of sigor mortis.

The yepling seemed very ingenuine as well. Going from a silent dog to that noise didn't feel appropriate.

Still a very despicable thing to want to represent in any light.

[USARMworker]

Not gonna watch it.

[usndocjaysin]

What a piece of shit that fuck is. It is assholes like that, that embarass Americans who are over there trying to do good. The road side bomb thing, is uncalled for and you are pretty much the same as the guy who threw the dog for saying it.

+1 and BIG UPS!

[Bleufire]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080223/ap_on_re_us/marine_s_best_friend_4

Saw this recently.

[Mike T]

^freakin sweet story....

[My900ss]

U.S. Marines Hard at fighting the war

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43462/9fb16ab3/us_soldaat_gooit_puppy.html


Where’s a roadside bomb when you need one

:rip puppy

Where you run into a problem is your ignorance of English in its written form. Lets start with your title. U.S. Marines... the plural use of the word Marine leads the reader to believe you are including every marine in the U.S. Marine corps. Next you specify Marines hard at fighting the war. Ok so you have narrowed it down to every Marine in Iraq and Afghanistan for the reader. You link a video that shows only two Marines not every Marine seemingly killing a puppy. You follow that up with the request for a road side bomb. Again the reader is left with the impression you want these two Marines to be hit with a road side bomb. Now a reasonable person would extrapolate from that you would like these two Marines either killed or maimed for their transgressions against this puppy for what other result can be expected from a road side bomb blast?

Now I will be the first to agree that what they do to the puppy is cruel and with out merit, they should be punished for their stupidity and cruelty. I do not agree that "Death" is a reasonable punishment. I am also of the opinion you have lead a completely sheltered life and have no context to the world around you in which you live.

Show some fucking respect to the U.S. Marine Corps and every Soldier, Sailor, Airman and Marine fighting this war and edit you post to remove your ignorant comment. :mad

[usndocjaysin]

Where you run into a problem is your ignorance of English in its written form. Lets start with your title. U.S. Marines... the plural use of the word Marine leads the reader to believe you are including every marine in the U.S. Marine corps. Next you specify Marines hard at fighting the war. Ok so you have narrowed it down to every Marine in Iraq and Afghanistan for the reader. You link a video that shows only two Marines not every Marine seemingly killing a puppy. You follow that up with the request for a road side bomb. Again the reader is left with the impression you want these two Marines to be hit with a road side bomb. Now a reasonable person would extrapolate from that you would like these two Marines either killed or maimed for their transgressions against this puppy for what other result can be expected from a road side bomb blast?

Now I will be the first to agree that what they do to the puppy is cruel and with out merit, they should be punished for their stupidity and cruelty. I do not agree that "Death" is a reasonable punishment. I am also of the opinion you have lead a completely sheltered life and have no context to the world around you in which you live.

Show some fucking respect to the U.S. Marine Corps and every Soldier, Sailor, Airman and Marine fighting this war and edit you post to remove your ignorant comment. :mad

^ x INFINITY :) :thumbup
My vernacular is mediocre at best :shocker Thnx for taking the words outta my mouth:thumbup

[usndocjaysin]

Not quite the roadside bomb you were looking for but...
http://www.break.com/index/puppies-get-revenge-on-marine.html

[usndocjaysin]

War does fucked up things to people, I'm sure that after having seen a few bodies with their insides on the outsides that throwing a puppy off a cliff dosen't seem all that bad.

War changes people...

*sigh* Yeah :|:( sad

True...

[Xenos]

I love the internet, so many naive and gullible people.

[The FNG]

Not quite the roadside bomb you were looking for but...
http://www.break.com/index/puppies-get-revenge-on-marine.html

now THAT's funny!

i have been deployed MANY times, and i do agree that a person's mentality does change while in a combat environment. but DUDE!!! how can you be so stupid as to put it on the FREAKIN' INTERNET!!!! keep your dog chuckin' between you and your joe's...

:deadhorse

[slowpoke]

And people wonder why I like animals more than people...

[JesasaurusRex]

Ok this is what I see
A person who trained so hard to be a marine for what a marine stand for. To fight for people, for human rights and then do something inhumane. I know some marine would kick this guy’s ass for doing what they did or at less be punished for it. A lot of people will see this around the world and what would they see about the United States Marine? That two marines are fucked up or that they’re all fucked up I hope not cause my friend lost his eye helping to give food to people there.


As for the bomb it represent power over the marines like they had power over the puppy
You saw it as to kill them or I want them dead. Even though I never said anything about I want them dead or be killed by one. You saw one word bomb and got all fired up. I take it your in the military/marine and
May lost some friends on a roadside bomb I have respect for you and your friends that are in this war (As long as you’re not like this guys)
Imagine the dog to be the marine and the soldiers are the bomb. You have the power to
pick someone or some animal up and throw them 100ft. would you do it for fun? Is that what your trained for.
I’m not strong to pick up a person but a bomb can. Like I said I don’t want the bomb to kill
them just to let them know what it fill like to be throw 100ft when someone is more powerful then you and use it for fun to a person or animal is just fucked up. Hey at leases a bomb has no brains.

Read the post and see what others see. Some question the dog more then the action of the marines. This is OK because
It’s wartime
It changes him
Dogs are like rats there
Thousand of dogs there
Dog is dead
Dog is a toy
And on and on

English Pwn3z you

[usndocjaysin]

Look OP...I'll break it down Barney style... I'm pretty sure EVERYONE here thinks the actions of those MARINES are horrible and a disgrace not only to the Corps but to America (I mean really...aren't we "ugly" enough already?). They should and WILL be punished accordingly for there actions as it should be. If I had it my way they'd get a BigChickenDinner, but that's besides the point.

You TOTALLY screwed yourself with the whole "roadside bomb" thing. I mean really... You thought you'd get away with a sentence like that? For reals, how else is one to interpret that? Explain it to me...

Yes war does change a person. I myself am not the same, BUT I had the common sense to be an ambassador of America, have good will, be compassionate and be a human being while abroad and when I got home.

Just because I've taken, lost, and saved lives still doesn't give me, or ANYONE, the right to be a D-BAG (like those dumb ass jar heads). Shit... I rememeber being at a pos. while eating chow and like 6 of those lil guys ran up on us. I was like "WTF?":) Somthing that's not trying to kill me or my Marines? I stopped eating and poured out the rest of my beef stew MRE for them:thumbup Boy did they eat the shit out of it! :laughing

Your title clumps EVERYONE together whether you knew it, ment it, or didn't. It's kinda funny... cuz when one person fucks up when your "in" EVERYONE pays. Ahhhh just like old times... And that is exactlly what has happend here. No one likes to be generalize. I HATED being called a MARINE because I wasn't. I was a CORPSMAN! I'm "Doc" so stop calling me a Marine! I couldn't EFFING stand it!

Vets and people that support us WILL NOT stand for this type of unthoughtfull and "ill willed" post. Sorry to say but YOU WILL NEVER LIVE DOWN THIS POST. No matter how hard you try to back peddle in a weak attempt to show us your a "good guy" and tell us about how your boy lost his eye and all I will always rememebr you as a thoughtless jerk until an apology is made (whitch I doubt will happen).

Yes... You are entitled to your opinion that's what we fight for and will continue to fight for. But do YOURSELF a favor next time and THINK before you type and perhaps use some TACT.:thumbup

[10Rtracker]

Where you run into a problem is your ignorance of English in its written form. Lets start with your title. U.S. Marines... the plural use of the word Marine leads the reader to believe you are including every marine in the U.S. Marine corps. Next you specify Marines hard at fighting the war. Ok so you have narrowed it down to every Marine in Iraq and Afghanistan for the reader. You link a video that shows only two Marines not every Marine seemingly killing a puppy. You follow that up with the request for a road side bomb. Again the reader is left with the impression you want these two Marines to be hit with a road side bomb. Now a reasonable person would extrapolate from that you would like these two Marines either killed or maimed for their transgressions against this puppy for what other result can be expected from a road side bomb blast?

Now I will be the first to agree that what they do to the puppy is cruel and with out merit, they should be punished for their stupidity and cruelty. I do not agree that "Death" is a reasonable punishment. I am also of the opinion you have lead a completely sheltered life and have no context to the world around you in which you live.

Show some fucking respect to the U.S. Marine Corps and every Soldier, Sailor, Airman and Marine fighting this war and edit you post to remove your ignorant comment. :mad



Well shit I did not see it that way. When I wrote the title and people saw the video I thought people would know that I’m only talking about the three marines in the video and not all marines. But I guess not. Now I see what you’re saying about the bomb the first thing that pops on people mines is dead and killing and I did live that to there imagination by not finishing the sentence. I give you :thumbup for taking the time to teach me my mistake on my English writing skills (instead of just saying you’re an idiot :laughing) So I’ll edit my post to show only the three marines and finished my bomb sentence so people won’t think that I’ll trying to kill everyone :cool

[10Rtracker]

Edit title to 3 U.S. Marines hard at fighting the war. How’s that sentence or do I need more detail or drop the US and just say marines?

Can’t find the words or sentence to express bomb as to throw them with out sounding like killing them
Teacher, teacher (My900ss) do I just replace the whole sentence or use??????:(

[JesasaurusRex]

(instead of just saying you’re an idiot :laughing)

I find it easier to just tell you straight up while my friend over here is trying to explain it to you the long way. End product is the same, just different routes

[10Rtracker]

All right how’s the new title and quote? :|

[usndocjaysin]

Shit... I rememeber being at a pos. while eating chow and like 6 of those lil guys ran up on us. I was like "WTF?":) Somthing that's not trying to kill me or my Marines? I stopped eating and poured out the rest of my beef stew MRE for them:thumbup Boy did they eat the shit out of it! :laughing

Just incase anyone thought I was FOS...

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/usndocjaysin/scan0004.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/usndocjaysin/scan0002.jpg

[Mike T]

^:thumbup

[B-Cuz]

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[lefty]

That was a pretty fucked up thing for that soldier to do. War does change people, but there is no excuse for being a sadistic piece of shit. Thats not the kind of person I want representing my country.

He doesn't need a roadside bomb, but he does need a court marshal and a dishonorable discharge.

X100!!!!

[B-Cuz]

X100!!!!

Where the hell have you been? Find this on page 11 or 12 of the Sink? :twofinger

[T-1 Thunder]

Where you run into a problem is your ignorance of English in its written form. Lets start with your title. U.S. Marines... the plural use of the word Marine leads the reader to believe you are including every marine in the U.S. Marine corps. Next you specify Marines hard at fighting the war. Ok so you have narrowed it down to every Marine in Iraq and Afghanistan for the reader. You link a video that shows only two Marines not every Marine seemingly killing a puppy. You follow that up with the request for a road side bomb. Again the reader is left with the impression you want these two Marines to be hit with a road side bomb. Now a reasonable person would extrapolate from that you would like these two Marines either killed or maimed for their transgressions against this puppy for what other result can be expected from a road side bomb blast?

Now I will be the first to agree that what they do to the puppy is cruel and with out merit, they should be punished for their stupidity and cruelty. I do not agree that "Death" is a reasonable punishment. I am also of the opinion you have lead a completely sheltered life and have no context to the world around you in which you live.

Show some fucking respect to the U.S. Marine Corps and every Soldier, Sailor, Airman and Marine fighting this war and edit you post to remove your ignorant comment. :mad

:applause
On the money!

It's about as inflammatory as posting a video of a black criminal and say "Blacks hard at work".

You KNOW you would get hell for that and this is no different. Ignorance doesn't stop at colors and races, it extends to lifestyles and careers. So don't show any more comfort with this.

[Mike T]

hms...this was recently on the news...too bad my mom changed the channel....

[2nsane]

hms...this was recently on the news...too bad my mom changed the channel....
:wtf you let a woman have controll of the Remote?
What are you a Man or a San Franciscan?:rofl

J/K,
my wife takes the remote from me all the time

[Dopesick]

:wtf you let a woman have controll of the Remote?
What are you a Man or a San Franciscan?:rofl

J/K,
my wife takes the remote from me all the time

preach on brotha. :thumbup :|

[V4]

:wtf you let a woman have controll of the Remote?
What are you a Man or a San Franciscan?:rofl

J/K,
my wife takes the remote from me all the time

if you've ever watched any movies on LifeTime Channel, hand in your man card now....:x












mines in the mail....:(

[V4]

while it's totally a fucked up act, if you were with the soldier on the combat zone, would you wanna kick his ass for what he did or would the thought that he'd might be the one to save your life be in the back of your mind before socking him in the jaw...?

there are a couple of stories where american soldiers adopted or nursed a wounded animal but easily forgotten while stories like this gets all the spot light...

I'm not condoning his action ...he's an asshole...

[fawndog]

Hey guys, the Marine needs help, his thought process is tweaked going on fubar.

I'm sure that Marine has emptied more sand out of his boots than anyone here has ever seen. I think he did a fucked up thing with the puppy
Which one of you can walk in his boots; handle his watch, live his pain? I think he did a fucked up thing with the puppy Pass your judgments folks, but if that got my ass state side for separation, I'd consider it. He probably has a psyche file with "tendencies", tendencies that normally are held in check by common sense, but where is common sense in Iraq? I think he did a fucked up thing with the puppy

Real or not it was a dishonorable thing to do.
I love dogs, I thought I'd love to knock that guys block off, but he is sick and needs some different attention.

[mcarb]

Sorry, excuses or no excuses, both of those marines should be shot in the head. The smile is what makes it disgusting. I have no doubt that marine will come home and lead a productive life (you know, torturing kids and puppies and whatnot). He should be shot.

[B-Cuz]

Sorry, excuses or no excuses, both of those marines should be shot in the head. The smile is what makes it disgusting. I have no doubt that marine will come home and lead a productive life (you know, torturing kids and puppies and whatnot). He should be shot.

How can you be so sure that the supposed actions you hint towards will be the case? I am not disagreeing with you in regards to the pup, if I were in charge here comes a backhand and then some across to two fools. But to go to the extent of saying they should be shot in the head, you're kidding right? What about the kid that burns ants all day, or those that slay kittens to use their blood in sadistic goth rituals, should they be shot too? C'mon and be real, you know someone was going to say something to that post.

[fawndog]

Would you be the internet tough guy to do it?

I didn't think so!

Will you also tell his mom how he needed therapy, but you felt a bullet was better? come off the fuckin high horse into reality.

[B-Cuz]

Would you be the internet tough guy to do it?

I didn't think so!

Will you also tell his mom how he needed therapy, but you felt a bullet was better? come off the fuckin high horse into reality.

Is that for me or mcarb?

[fawndog]

Is that for me or mcarb?

That's for those calling for grievous injury to the Marine.

[Dopesick]

Sorry, excuses or no excuses, both of those marines should be shot in the head. The smile is what makes it disgusting. I have no doubt that marine will come home and lead a productive life (you know, torturing kids and puppies and whatnot). He should be shot.

Your talking about someone whos first trained instinct is kill or be killed, having compassion for an animal lacking the same defensive abillities as a human?

Don't get me wrong, he fucked up HUGE and should pay... But I think people are missing the full scope of this issue.

[elbacalao]

I dont give a shit that he's a marine, or that he's in a war or that he's american. How many other members of the US military are tossing dogs over cliffs?...anyone who tortures or kills an animal for pleasure is fucked and beyond therapy. Animal cruelty is a common sign among all psychopaths, and this fuck is obviously one of them..its only a matter of time before he directs his sickness onto innocent humans. Should we ask him to get therapy then? Fuck no. everyone would want his ass in jail or dead.

[fawndog]

1. You're sure the vid is real, as in a real live puppy (maybe, but since you weren’t there it's really just your assumption) Either way it is a bad representation of him; his unit, and the Corps.

2. You may be right in your clinical diagnosis, but I doubt it since your information comes from a vid. Where do you want to draw your line, pulling wings off flies, burning ants? Understand this, if that were a child I'd be calling for serious brig time, but it was not

[elbacalao]

1. You're sure the vid is real, as in a real live puppy (maybe, but since you weren’t there it's really just your assumption) Either way it is a bad representation of him; his unit, and the Corps.

2. You may be right in your clinical diagnosis, but I doubt it since your information comes from a vid. Where do you want to draw your line, pulling wings off flies, burning ants? Understand this, if that were a child I'd be calling for serious brig time, but it was not

No...it NOT an assumption, it's a fact. :|http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/12/marine.puppy/index.html

Obviously the USMC deemed him unstable. Gee I wonder if THAT diagnosis was based on the video alone?

His actions go beyond bad representation of himself, his unit or the Corps. Its a bad representation of humanity.

As for pulling wings off of flies and burning ants, two things I never did as a child, its not the same. People purchase products everyday to kill hundreds if not thousands of insects in their homes, businesses etc. There are businesses whose sole intent is to kill insects. There is nothing illegal about killing insects. You cant go to Walgreens and buy puppy spray to rid your house of unwanted puppies. Exterminators will not come to your house and kill puppies.

[JihadiKiller031]

Did anybody stop to think that, sadly, some people just don't like puppies?

Seriously though, he's out and its over and done with. Nothing changes that. He brought discredit upon the Marine Corps, but in the present society we are in now military bashing is the trendy new thing. Don't forget to wear your Hollister fatigues and sip your 5 dollar latte cock suckers.

As I Marine, I've given up trying to defend some other douche bags actions. It's not PTSD, It's not his "training to kill", It's not the fact that he is a Marine (or any other member of the Armed Forces for that matter). HE IS JUST A SADISTIC PUPPY HATING DOUCHE BAG. Period. End of discussion.

Was he a Marine? Yeah sure I suppose he was in digi cammies, wearing an Eagle, Globe and Anchor. Being a Marine is more then graduating from boot camp. It's either who you are or it isn't. No matter what it is there will always be that 10% though.

I just don't get why this video is such a big deal, but the easily 10 to 20 other videos of soldiers (both US and other) shooting, blowing up, running over, etc... didn't bother anybody at all. They were all in the same place that this video was...

[fawndog]

No...it NOT an assumption, it's a fact. :|http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/12/marine.puppy/index.html

Obviously the USMC deemed him unstable. Gee I wonder if THAT diagnosis was based on the video alone?

His actions go beyond bad representation of himself, his unit or the Corps. Its a bad representation of humanity.

As for pulling wings off of flies and burning ants, two things I never did as a child, its not the same. People purchase products everyday to kill hundreds if not thousands of insects in their homes, businesses etc. There are businesses whose sole intent is to kill insects. There is nothing illegal about killing insects. You cant go to Walgreens and buy puppy spray to rid your house of unwanted puppies. Exterminators will not come to your house and kill puppies.
Still does not say with any certainty that the puppy was alive, or the Marine is unstable so your still assuming whatever you want, :rolleyes the fact that a video exist is grounds for his separation. Please try to stick to facts.

Sure insects are disposable, but at what point do you think it’s ok to torture or kill something? Keep in mind my point is that you said this.
anyone who tortures or kills an animal for pleasure is fucked and beyond therapy. Animal cruelty is a common sign among all psychopaths, and this fuck is obviously one of them.its only a matter of time before he directs his sickness onto innocent humans.

A single incident no, but repeated acts of cruelty and I’d agree with you. (not just this guy but in any case, where someone acted similarly)

Additionally you rush to judge, now tell me what you think appropriate punishment should be.

[fawndog]

Did anybody stop to think that, sadly, some people just don't like puppies?

Seriously though, he's out and its over and done with. Nothing changes that. He brought discredit upon the Marine Corps, but in the present society we are in now military bashing is the trendy new thing. Don't forget to wear your Hollister fatigues and sip your 5 dollar latte cock suckers.

As I Marine, I've given up trying to defend some other douche bags actions. It's not PTSD, It's not his "training to kill", It's not the fact that he is a Marine (or any other member of the Armed Forces for that matter). HE IS JUST A SADISTIC PUPPY HATING DOUCHE BAG. Period. End of discussion.

Was he a Marine? Yeah sure I suppose he was in digi cammies, wearing an Eagle, Globe and Anchor. Being a Marine is more then graduating from boot camp. It's either who you are or it isn't. No matter what it is there will always be that 10% though.

I just don't get why this video is such a big deal, but the easily 10 to 20 other videos of soldiers (both US and other) shooting, blowing up, running over, etc... didn't bother anybody at all. They were all in the same place that this video was...

I just wanna nip the "where is a IED when you need one" shit in the bud, and I'm fed up with people judging this type of crap who never had the nuts to be put in the same situation.

[elbacalao]

Still does not say with any certainty that the puppy was alive, or the Marine is unstable so your still assuming whatever you want, :rolleyes the fact that a video exist is grounds for his separation. Please try to stick to facts.

Sure insects are disposable, but at what point do you think it’s ok to torture or kill something? Keep in mind my point is that you said this.


A single incident no, but repeated acts of cruelty and I’d agree with you. (not just this guy but in any case, where someone acted similarly)

Additionally you rush to judge, now tell me what you think appropriate punishment should be.

If you are still holding on to the thought that the puppy was dead before he tossed it then great, keep creating your own reality.

Killing an animal is not the point here. I have no problem with the killing of animals if the animal is then going to be eaten and used for such things as leather etc etc. nor do I have a problem with humanely euthanizing animals. My original point was killing an animal for pleasure is a fucked up thing to do. Period. I dont think it is ever ok to torture something. Insects included.

I see no rush to judgment on my part. Any adult who kills animals for pleasure, or participates in their death, for pleasure, dog fighting for example, should be help criminally responsible, and they usually are.

I dont believe therapy helps adults who like to torture animals anymore than it helps those adults who are sexual predators.

I'm glad the USMC had booted this human waste. It speaks well for them.

[fawndog]

Dude I only hold on to facts. Unlike you I can't say what has, and what hasn't transpired unless I am there to see it for myself. So no I don't create reality it just is, reality is not some internet video you just punched up. :rofl But it's easier to argue if you avoid facts isn't it.

I can only say the vid was in bad taste. Everything else is assumption.

[JihadiKiller031]

I just wanna nip the "where is a IED when you need one" shit in the bud, and I'm fed up with people judging this type of crap who never had the nuts to be put in the same situation.


Its always going to happen. Anybody who is military, was military knows that. Everyone knows whats going on or how it should be.... except those who are. We just know what it is, we deal with it and move on with life.

:twofinger is the only response they really deserve.

[elbacalao]

Dude I only hold on to facts. Unlike you I can't say what has, and what hasn't transpired unless I am there to see it for myself. So no I don't create reality it just is, reality is not some internet video you just punched up. :rofl But it's easier to argue if you avoid facts isn't it.

I can only say the vid was in bad taste. Everything else is assumption.

Claiming that one has to see something with ones own eyes before they can claim something real occurred, is indeed creating ones own reality. Many, many things happen without me seeing or experiencing them. Yet I do not disclaim their existence due to my absence.

No one in the press has said whether or not the puppy was alive, because the Marine Corp aint telling. Most articles in the news have quoted respected veterinarians, who though they cannot 100% claim to know the puppy was alive, suggest that all signs point to the fact that it was. These articles, along with the USMC's dismissal of the shitwad, leads me to believe that it was alive. Is it possible that it wasnt? Sure. Very unlikely, but possible, I'll give you that.

[fawndog]

Its always going to happen. Anybody who is military, was military knows that. Everyone knows whats going on or how it should be.... except those who are. We just know what it is, we deal with it and move on with life.

:twofinger is the only response they really deserve.

Well said

[ntula]

that's fucked up. no excuse for that, that person is sick in the head. nothing better than knowing a severely mentally ill person has access to auto weapons and explosives and is a representative of your people.

[JesasaurusRex]

I dont believe therapy helps adults who like to torture animals anymore than it helps those adults who are sexual predators or animal rights nut jobs



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