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Rek3030
03-22-2008, 01:14 PM
I'm having some trouble here, I got a piece I ordered off eBay, and well 2 of the screws I need to take off are stripped allen heads. So I cut some slots, and couldn't get them to budge at all. I than used an extractor bit, and my electrical drill didn't have enough torque to make it budge, it had my drill smoking.


So wtf am I to do? :wtf I don't want to cut off the heads, because that would leave the body of the screws stuck in the piece I want. I can see red or orange loctite in there, so this shit is just being a plain old bitch. And I ran out of ideas and tools. :|

Help. Thanks.

rodgers1021
03-22-2008, 01:47 PM
can you make flats on the outside of the bolts so you could get a wrench on it? You also might try to put some wd-40 on it or something like it to maybe to get it to loosen up. I don't know what will dissolve loctite.

Have you tried a impact screw driver? Since you have a slot in it now.

Rek3030
03-22-2008, 01:52 PM
I dont have an impact gun or an airgun.

Some one had mentioned to me heating up the bolts to break the loctite. However these bolts are the ones that hold on my rear master brake cylinder, will the heat damage this at all?

rodgers1021
03-22-2008, 01:56 PM
No its not that kind of a impact gun. Read the second paragraph in this article.

http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/how-to-extract-stuck-screws-3440.html

You can buy them at your local parts store

rodgers1021
03-22-2008, 01:58 PM
Here is what it looks like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_driver

Rek3030
03-22-2008, 01:59 PM
Sweet thanks, will have to wait 2 weeks for that though.

rodgers1021
03-22-2008, 02:03 PM
They work great. I used mine to get bolt off of some brake rotors on a car. I think they are fairly cheap. I think i got mine for like 20 something bucks.

rodgers1021
03-22-2008, 02:06 PM
Yep i was right. Your local sears has them for 19.99.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00947641000P?keyword=impact+driver

Rek3030
03-22-2008, 02:14 PM
Sweet thanks for the help man, I will have to go pick one up tomorrow.

2shott
03-22-2008, 02:16 PM
I just happened to see an impact set yesterday @ Kragens for $12.99.... Also a can of PB (penetrating blaster, yellow can) would be a good idea...

afm199
03-22-2008, 02:52 PM
forget blaster and wd40, red loctite will break down under heat only.

ntula
03-22-2008, 04:39 PM
you could try the next size up or a metric/standard and hammer it in. you can also cut a slot in it and use a screw driver. other methods are to weld a piece on it or get a torch and heat the screw up to burn up the loctite. i have heard of persons having to do this with red loctite. i was warned against using this stuff for the most part and to only use the lighter blue. think i have the colours correct.

07chuck
03-22-2008, 07:17 PM
You need fire and and the impact driver mentioned above...

Rek3030
03-22-2008, 08:16 PM
I will try some fire, if not I will be drilling it out tomorrow.

Thanks.

Pretzl28
03-23-2008, 01:58 AM
FIRE FIRE FIRE!!!

Heat it up!!! That will loosen it for a little bit!!

MVchoppedgsxr
03-23-2008, 07:51 PM
I had the same problem with a worn oil drain bolt. I filled the allen head with JB weld and put the correct size allen wrench in there then let it harden over night. The next day just spun it out and got a new bolt, might be worth a try but clean and sand the bolt good for good adhesion.

Gazedrop
03-23-2008, 10:08 PM
Another trick that I've good luck with (though to try before drilling for a screw extractor, so this tip is for the future...) is to hammer-in a a torx driver. It is a destructive method, though in my experience the torx driver always survives!

Use the kind that fit on a ratchet wrench so you can get good leverage.

And for that red loctite, use a little heat and give it smack with a hammer. As long as you don't go too overboard with the heat, the master cylinder should survive...

And for the record, I rarely use loctite at all; but if I do, only the blue stuff (or the green stuff for specific applications.)