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Clubman HW video

DonJigweed

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http://www.vimeo.com/10359000

Some good footage of Quinton Jones, Micah Larson, and Aleks. Lost a couple laps in the middle. I started recording too early and it went over the 2GB limit on the SD card that comes with the cam.

I'll put up Open GP and Open Prod in the next few days. (Takes awhile to encode them and upload.)

The Sunday vids are from the back mostly, some good footage of Steve Metz, Geoffrey Johnston, Eddie Vigil, and a few others.
 
Nice vid took a while to get it loaded in HD nice job reeling in my 750 in the end. Will have to get to work on the rider and the bike.
 
http://www.vimeo.com/10359000

Some good footage of Quinton Jones, Micah Larson, and Aleks. Lost a couple laps in the middle. I started recording too early and it went over the 2GB limit on the SD card that comes with the cam.

I'll put up Open GP and Open Prod in the next few days. (Takes awhile to encode them and upload.)

The Sunday vids are from the back mostly, some good footage of Steve Metz, Geoffrey Johnston, Eddie Vigil, and a few others.

Hey thanks - I was waiting for the vids to pop up. I didn't run any video this race weekend cos I knew how crap I'd be with the bad knee and worse track knowledge!

Bummer the card stopped reading just as you were about to overtake me on the straight at end L1. Good to see my gratuitous wheelies made it though! Hey - if you can't be competitive ya gotta have some good clean fun!

Speaking of clean, it's good to see you got clear of the mess unfolding behind you. Ed Pope got run off the track by a guy re-entering the track and had to motocross the outside of Riverside. I was right behind them and can't believe he kept it upright. He got back on (safely) and then was taken out soon after by a crasher inside him. Broken clavicle the poor bugger...... Can't be certain, but it looked like the same Kamikaze who ran across the dirt and tried to re-enter just in front of the bus stop at 40mph, right in front of me.....he got a fright when he saw what could have happened and I saw him parked in the infield for the rest of the race. Good decision there.

I'm no expert (literally of course), but my message to the NCs would be 'this is not a Moto GP title at stake and the family guys want to make it home to their kids unmaimed, so let's make it fast, clean and safe.'

Hey, you ran out of the first 2GB card.....I wanna know how you switched those little cards in the middle of the race - must have been on the main straight......:rofl

It was great racing with (most of) you guys, and looking forward to lots more fun coming up at the funner tracks!
 
Speaking of clean, it's good to see you got clear of the mess unfolding behind you. Ed Pope got run off the track by a guy re-entering the track and had to motocross the outside of Riverside. I was right behind them and can't believe he kept it upright. He got back on (safely) and then was taken out soon after by a crasher inside him. Broken clavicle the poor bugger......

I'm no expert (literally of course), but my message to the NCs would be 'this is not a Moto GP title at stake and the family guys want to make it home to their kids unmaimed, so let's make it fast, clean and safe.'

No shit. I didn't realize anyone got hurt in that race. The camera lost laps 2 & 3 I think. One of those laps a guy right in front of me ran it off the outside of the bus stop over the burm. I wonder if it's the same guy. I had come up to them, I think 5, 6, & 7 nose to tail and pulled up alongside 7th coming out of club corner but he wasn't having any of it, closed the door and then overcooked it onto the bus stop. I thought to myself, "Yep, there it is. The male ego. Wasn't gonna have that p_ssy pink take away 7th place from him." Stupid. It's the first round, and you're riding in f_cking Clubman. Who gives a sh_t about collecting Clubman trophies? Just score some points so next time you're not back there with all the FasterThanYou's who think they're gonna win it in T1.

Like Roytman, that dude should have won this race going away. All he had to do was look at the practice times and he'd see he's a second a lap faster than anyone else out there. I think he spanked everyone in T1 around the outside, but when he saw he was in 6th or 5th or somewhere up there where he knows the leader's not getting away he should've just taken some off and cruised for a lap or two, size people up and don't force anything. Now's he gotta do it all over again at the next round. And he packs his shit up and goes home after half a lap. Stupid.

Ernie really said it best, just chillax and be cool. AFM's all about points and finishing races. I saw where you were gridded, up at the front in most of your races. Ahead of Chris F_cking Siglin in one race I think. Well there it is, if you're a novice the formula's very simple - score solid points at every round, make incremental improvements, and your second or third year you're a Neil Atterbury or a Michael Boardman. It's like, do people not look at past years' race results? Alot of these guys who we would look at today and think, "That f_cker's fast," if you go back 3 years, they're not running at the front. I don't know why I always use Neil as an example, he's just a guy that if you look at him today, sure, he's not in the Sarros/Siglin/Call/Earnest/etc realm, but he's a fast motherf_cker. But if you look at his lap times over the years you just see steady improvement, and if you go back 3 years he's 10 seconds off the pace. Go back 4 years and Berto's not in the top 10 a lot of times. But you look at him today and you think, "That's a fast motherf_cker." Well, how did they get to be that way? It wasn't by crashing out of Clubman races.
 
I hear a yellow bike makes a brief appearance....
:) still at work and cant watch :(
 
No shit. I didn't realize anyone got hurt in that race. The camera lost laps 2 & 3 I think. One of those laps a guy right in front of me ran it off the outside of the bus stop over the burm. I wonder if it's the same guy. I had come up to them, I think 5, 6, & 7 nose to tail and pulled up alongside 7th coming out of club corner but he wasn't having any of it, closed the door and then overcooked it onto the bus stop. I thought to myself, "Yep, there it is. The male ego. Wasn't gonna have that p_ssy pink take away 7th place from him." Stupid. It's the first round, and you're riding in f_cking Clubman. Who gives a sh_t about collecting Clubman trophies? Just score some points so next time you're not back there with all the FasterThanYou's who think they're gonna win it in T1.

Like Roytman, that dude should have won this race going away. All he had to do was look at the practice times and he'd see he's a second a lap faster than anyone else out there. I think he spanked everyone in T1 around the outside, but when he saw he was in 6th or 5th or somewhere up there where he knows the leader's not getting away he should've just taken some off and cruised for a lap or two, size people up and don't force anything. Now's he gotta do it all over again at the next round. And he packs his shit up and goes home after half a lap. Stupid.

Ernie really said it best, just chillax and be cool. AFM's all about points and finishing races. I saw where you were gridded, up at the front in most of your races. Ahead of Chris F_cking Siglin in one race I think. Well there it is, if you're a novice the formula's very simple - score solid points at every round, make incremental improvements, and your second or third year you're a Neil Atterbury or a Michael Boardman. It's like, do people not look at past years' race results? Alot of these guys who we would look at today and think, "That f_cker's fast," if you go back 3 years, they're not running at the front. I don't know why I always use Neil as an example, he's just a guy that if you look at him today, sure, he's not in the Sarros/Siglin/Call/Earnest/etc realm, but he's a fast motherf_cker. But if you look at his lap times over the years you just see steady improvement, and if you go back 3 years he's 10 seconds off the pace. Go back 4 years and Berto's not in the top 10 a lot of times. But you look at him today and you think, "That's a fast motherf_cker." Well, how did they get to be that way? It wasn't by crashing out of Clubman races.

Very well put. Just for the record, if you are in practice group one, I AM GOING TO BEAT ALL OF YOU IN PRACTICE!! mUHAAHAHAHAHA!!.
If I can't win clubman then I am going to win practice.:twofinger
I was last in both my races in the last round of 2009. Like I say to everyone, I may have been last but I beat everyone that crashed!
I don't even say that I am racing anymore. Just say that I am "riding in a race"!:laughing
 
:twofinger:twofinger:twofinger Dickweed , jigweed, milkweed.... whatever the fuck your name is ? I guess you didn't see the pic's on vanhap of me at the back of all 3 races I was in going into turn 2 did you ? Talking out your ass ....again ! leave me out of your conversations if you ain't got the sack to come talk to me in the pits. It's funny how nice everyone is at the track and how big a jackass they turn into when they get home and sit in there jackoff room !:twofinger:twofinger:twofinger
 
:twofinger:twofinger:twofinger Dickweed , jigweed, milkweed.... whatever the fuck your name is ? I guess you didn't see the pic's on vanhap of me at the back of all 3 races I was in going into turn 2 did you ? Talking out your ass ....again ! leave me out of your conversations if you ain't got the sack to come talk to me in the pits. It's funny how nice everyone is at the track and how big a jackass they turn into when they get home and sit in there jackoff room !:twofinger:twofinger:twofinger

Easy Sparky. It's a messageboard. On the internets. Snark is to be expected. The way I'm using your name there is called poetic license. No, you didn't actually go banzai into T1. You saved that for the Mazda Sweeper, where you tried to outbrake 13 guys at one time apparently.

Cmon dude, you have to admit, after all those comments you made about safety, no need for ambulances, etc. you have to kinda expect some gentle ribbing, don't you?

Sheesh. People take themselves so seriously.
 
No shit. I didn't realize anyone got hurt in that race. The camera lost laps 2 & 3 I think. One of those laps a guy right in front of me ran it off the outside of the bus stop over the burm. I wonder if it's the same guy. I had come up to them, I think 5, 6, & 7 nose to tail and pulled up alongside 7th coming out of club corner but he wasn't having any of it, closed the door and then overcooked it onto the bus stop. I thought to myself, "Yep, there it is. The male ego. Wasn't gonna have that p_ssy pink take away 7th place from him." Stupid. It's the first round, and you're riding in f_cking Clubman. Who gives a sh_t about collecting Clubman trophies? Just score some points so next time you're not back there with all the FasterThanYou's who think they're gonna win it in T1.

Like Roytman, that dude should have won this race going away. All he had to do was look at the practice times and he'd see he's a second a lap faster than anyone else out there. I think he spanked everyone in T1 around the outside, but when he saw he was in 6th or 5th or somewhere up there where he knows the leader's not getting away he should've just taken some off and cruised for a lap or two, size people up and don't force anything. Now's he gotta do it all over again at the next round. And he packs his shit up and goes home after half a lap. Stupid.
Ernie really said it best, just chillax and be cool. AFM's all about points and finishing races. I saw where you were gridded, up at the front in most of your races. Ahead of Chris F_cking Siglin in one race I think. Well there it is, if you're a novice the formula's very simple - score solid points at every round, make incremental improvements, and your second or third year you're a Neil Atterbury or a Michael Boardman. It's like, do people not look at past years' race results? Alot of these guys who we would look at today and think, "That f_cker's fast," if you go back 3 years, they're not running at the front. I don't know why I always use Neil as an example, he's just a guy that if you look at him today, sure, he's not in the Sarros/Siglin/Call/Earnest/etc realm, but he's a fast motherf_cker. But if you look at his lap times over the years you just see steady improvement, and if you go back 3 years he's 10 seconds off the pace. Go back 4 years and Berto's not in the top 10 a lot of times. But you look at him today and you think, "That's a fast motherf_cker." Well, how did they get to be that way? It wasn't by crashing out of Clubman races.


That's a very good assesment. I'm usually the careful passer and I'm all about safety first. I've been working on more aggressive passing lately and have been reaping great benefits. In practice I got placed in group 2 because it was my first time with the AFM. I bumped up to 3 and should've been in 4 but they said it was full. All day I'd pass people on the inside and scrub speed towards the outside of the track. Earlier that day in practice I actually practiced alternate lines through that corner and hit those nasty bumps on the outside and knew they weren't a good line.

During the race though, my plan was to pick through traffic then just ride my ride (I hit 57s in practice but I was down in the 53s last weekend and the weekend before, it's just in group 3 people were running 2:05s and there was a lot of traffic in critical areas like the s curves, killing my laptimes). I was gridded towards the back because AFM doesn't grid by practice laptimes (like WSMC does), so I wanted to get a good start. I should've been more patient, knowing I have 6 laps to pick through slower traffic. I got a great start and passed like 5 people on the outside of 1. I was in 4th place at that point. Passed another guy on the brakes into turn 3 and was in 3rd. The two guys in front of me were running very slowly through cotton corners, more than 50% off my normal pace there, and their lines were sketchy (especially the guy in the lead, he looked confused, while the guy behind him was trying too hard). I decided to pass them both after the grapevine before truck stop. I usually only pass one person there, if the delta is significant (they're way slower) but in this case I figured they were both way slower. Then the guy in 2nd went for the pass too, so I took an even more inside line and got on the gas a bit more so that they wouldn't take me out diving for the apex of truck stop. I was planning on scrubbing that speed midcorner and using more track on the exit. Unfortunately I was at max lean when I hit those giant bumps on the edge of the exit. They tucked my front and I tried to save it. It caught traction for a second but then I was in the dirt still leaned over so it slid out again.

Obviously in hindsight, I should've just waited to pass going into bus stop or even waited til riverside, where I'm really strong. I had so much time and should've gone for the easy pass. I challenged myself and I didn't mis-calculate or make a critical error, I simply used real estate that wasn't usable at lean angle on stock suspension. I beat myself in that race, it was all me.

My first WSMC weekend, I also started in 3rd place and took 2 laps to pick apart the two guys upfront but they were much faster than these two guys were. That's the ironic thing, if the 1st and 2nd place guys were going well through cotton corners, I'd have never went for the pass where I did.

I learned to take different notes on my track map going forward, assesing passing viability and taking into account delta and number of riders passed. I also learned to be a bit more patient, especially in a race that has people of varying pace and talent, no need to go gung ho from the beginning. If this was a race with folks running 51s to 53s, then I'd have had the right game plane to not wait and pass whenever possible.

Thank goodness I'm completely unscathed, just a bit sore. The bike's actually ok too, just needs plastics, rebuilt brembo mc and a clipon that was bent. The gear took a beating though, since the bike was on top of me most of the slide, my leathers look like they went through a giant cheeze grinder.

I really wanted to race Open GP and Open Superbike, that's where you learn, running with the fast guys. This race was just supposed to be like a regular track session, go out and ride your ride. I'll start at the back of the pack at Infineon and I'll be patient about picking folks apart for the whole 6 laps.
 
nice video....


makes me want a newer bike thanks...


you all have to take pity on the forums. I dont want pity on the track but here give some for an old dude with an old bike some luv ;)

dont post videos that make me want to go back so soon

heheheheh
 
53s. Damn. There was no one on that grid who could run 53s in their sleep. What the f_ck you doing in Clubman? :)


I'll start at the back of the pack at Infineon and I'll be patient about picking folks apart for the whole 6 laps.

That's a good plan. You be very patient picking off those guys in front of you. Very patient. :)
 
53s. Damn. There was no one on that grid who could run 53s in their sleep. What the f_ck you doing in Clubman? :)




That's a good plan. You be very patient picking off those guys in front of you. Very patient. :)

Yeah, good question! Clubman was meant to be for guys learning and getting their times down in hopefully a safe-ish environment. Dude, you're already there - competitive with the 2nd tier fast guys in the open classes - ie. BLOODY FAST!

+1 on that advice - you should be at the front of the grid but you'll be at the back again so please take it easy in coming races and pick us off only when there's time and space.

Yes, I know: I'm one of the slow AND boring guys - I have no ambitions for a race career, or even to be one of the KFGs, but I want to have fun at a faster pace than track days (and develop products). Lucky I'm a better engineer than racer.....I'll be sticking with my day job!

Hey I thought I'd be a lot more competitve this season, at Sears and T-Hill at least (when the knee works again), but you guys were SO FAST at BW it looks like I'm destined for mid-pack even in Clubman......what a turkey!! :laughing
 
i was kidding with that comment. there's always someone in novice class that comes out and spanks everybody. ilya is that guy this year.
 
That was a solid race dudes.

I'll admit I was pulling for my boy Quinton, he had Pole and the whole shot but once he hit the on ramp, game over.

See you boys out there for R2.
 
Michael,

That was you on the red bike? That was an epic race - I remember being pretty excited that you managed to close the gap on the first place racer - 444 had such a big lead that I thought he was untouchable . Sorry to see that you lost the first place finish when the race was red-flagged.

Micah was my pit partner, and started from the back of the grid to cross the checkered in 3rd place. He ended up taking 4th due to the red-flag. I told him that it was going to be a challenge to take 1st from you, at Infineon. :teeth
 
I think Ilya will be the guy to beat at Infineon. 8 lap race there I believe. Plenty of time for him to work his way to the front, and it's an easier track to pass on imo.
 
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