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TNT Car Club, gang initiation is to run a motorcyclist off the road

Hooli

Hooli

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Got this from another moto forum I frequent. Even if it's not entirely truth, the implications are chilling. :nchantr

"I despise rumors, but this one is really taking fire, and when I find it on Snopes, I try to believe what their research validation may have found.

Take this information as you will, but a quick Google search, is finding threads and subject matter on this, all over the Internet..."

http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/tntclub.asp

http://www.bikerornot.com/Event/98917
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Hooli said:
Got this from another moto forum I frequent. Even if it's not entirely truth, the implications are chilling. :nchantr
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Musta been one of those guys at Pebble beach last year. Ran me off the road. :twofinger
 
Car club guys won't do anything that will damage, dent, scratch their car.
 
This is probably just like the B.S. stories that I heard growing up. It was crap about gang initiations required them to drive around with their lights off and the first person that flicked their lights to tell them they were supposed to either beat the shit out of them or kill them or whatever.

I doubt there's any truth to this and even if there was, it doesn't seem like it would be any different than they daily commute or weekend ride anyway. There's always that risk of the dipshit texter or no-looking-over-shoulder lane changers out there. :dunno
 
TurboTiger said:
Car club guys won't do anything that will damage, dent, scratch their car.
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Not true. I've taken my share of wrecks on 9 with "car club cars". Everyone thinks 9 is a race track, for both motos and cages.
 
I believe it could happen, but I'll wait to hear if it's true before I get up in arms.

Back east supposedly there was a gang initiation that involved asking people for directions and killing them if they came to the window. I don't think it ever actually happened.

It's more like those "crazy teens" stories you hear. Like rainbow parties and vodka tampons. No one actually does it, but someone thought it was heinous enough an idea to report on.
 
^^ Yeah, that. It was usually accompanied by the person saying it with "the police are warning...."
 
i don't believe anyone going through such an initiation would use their own car...but how would we know the truth from the bullshit in any case?

let me witness this kind of thing....blahblahblah johnny hero and all that:teeth
 
DaveT319 said:
Yep, I remember that one. Like any good urban legend, it sounded just good enough to be possible.
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Why don't they come up with urban legends that promote safe driving habits??...now im never going to flash my lights at people with their headlights off in the dark.
 
Coming way from left field....

Now you'd think that this would be a perfect sting opportunity for the police. Cops drive around in unmarked cars and flash potential cars with no headlights on. Only to have the gang members follow them to a designated area for an ambush.
 
MCCRASH said:
"For the initiation the gang drives a car around with their lights off at night, and the first person that flashes brights at them, they shoot 'em dead!"

http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/lightsout.asp
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This practice was cancelled out by the rival gangs whose initiation was to shoot dead the first person they saw driving with their lights off at night.
 
As much as I'd like to blow this off as more urban legend crap, I dunno...

True story:

A few years back I was stationed at Ft. Hood. A group of us, maybe 20-30, rode from Ft. Hood down to Austin for the Hot Import Nights car show. On the way back up, at night, we were riding in formation doing maybe 70-ish in the right lane. Little to no traffic, when we encountered traffic everyone just shifted to the left lane, flowed around, and went back to the right lane. Nice and mellow overall. Well, we got to one particular car and began shifting lanes to go around him, and he swerved at the front of the group. Fortunately, nobody was hit, but then he began swerving at each individual that attempted a pass, and brake checked the entire formation while straddling both lanes. This game of swerve at one person while another gunned it up the opposite side to pass went on for a bit until someone with a CCW pulled up alongside him, fired a warning shot in front of his car, and pointed the gun at him. He calmed down and let everyone pass, and we all rode away.

I heard from other members of the group later that he followed several of them to a gas station and proceeded to get out of the car, yell about the gun and how he had his preggo wife in the car with him, and how the cops were on their way to arrest all us crazy bikers. From what I recall, there were about 8 bikers at the gas station vs this 1 guy in his sedan that at most could have held 5 people, and this was after he found out that at least 1 biker was armed. I don't remember the cops ever showing up, but some people, car club or not, DO hold that much contempt/craziness/aggression towards motorcyclists.

In regards to this TNT club - well, I've seen it happen WITHOUT any type of peer pressure from a gang. It's not a far stretch of the imagination for me to think it's happening/happened.
 
Hooli said:
Got this from another moto forum I frequent. Even if it's not entirely truth, the implications are chilling. :nchantr
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It's completely true - but the car club's name is actually "Talking N Texting". It's not just new members trying to run people off the road, it's all the members. Those fuckers will run anyone off the road, not just bikers.
 
250gpracer said:
Why don't they come up with urban legends that promote safe driving habits??...now im never going to flash my lights at people with their headlights off in the dark.
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Once upon a time, flashing your high beams on and off only meant that the oncoming driver was blinding you with their high beams. The signal for someone driving without their lights on at all was to quickly turn your lights off and on a few times. However, with the advent of HID lights on low beams, this becomes much less practical. Or adviseable.
 
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