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Lane Splitting Law

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vectrav2

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Hi,

Just got home from what must have been my 500th ride across the San Mateo Bridge.

In all 499 other crossings I have Split the lanes between Industrial BLVD and the 880 turn off.
Tonight a CHP officer stopped me and said that if the traffic is moving AT ALL I cannot lane split.

Is this true?
If so what is the section of law that says so?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.:confused
 
hit the search button above and type in "splitting"
 
um, he's straight up wrong...

law says you can legally split so long as you are not breaking the speed limit and so long as you are splitting 'prudently' or politly i guess....
 
SpeedyCorky said:
um, he's straight up wrong...

law says you can legally split so long as you are not breaking the speed limit and so long as you are splitting 'prudently' or politly i guess....

Negative Captian. There is NO LAW that allows lane splitting. Why can we do it? Because there is also no law on the books that says we can't. So long as you are riding within the paramaters of all the other laws on the books, you aren't doing anything wrong. The problem that arises is that a CHP officer, or any other for that matter, can cite you for various reckless or unsafe speed violations if they don't like what you're doing. It's a great big grey area that we can take advantage of.
 
boney said:
Negative Captian. There is NO LAW that allows lane splitting. Why can we do it? Because there is also no law on the books that says we can't. So long as you are riding within the paramaters of all the other laws on the books, you aren't doing anything wrong. The problem that arises is that a CHP officer, or any other for that matter, can cite you for various reckless or unsafe speed violations if they don't like what you're doing. It's a great big grey area that we can take advantage of.

Well said, and one of those gray areas that should not be abused or you will see it less gray and more black and white (Meaning a law) like other states.
 
Anecdotally, I was in a drivers ED class before I started riding, and I DISTINCTLY remember our teacher, a former CHP officer, stating that:

It is illegal to ride a motorcycle with your handlebars straddling a lane line

oh ya, "LEO's":

how often do you clean up an accident scene where the accident was caused by a lane splitting motorcycle?

(I'm only asking for First Hand Experience here, if you heard it over the radio that counts too, but thats it.)
 
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ChicoRugger said:
Anecdotally, I was in a drivers ED class before I started riding, and I DISTINCTLY remember our teacher, a former CHP officer, stating that:

It is illegal to ride a motorcycle with your handlebars straddling a lane line

oh ya, "LEO's":

how often do you clean up an accident scene where the accident was caused by a lane splitting motorcycle?

(I'm only asking for First Hand Experience here, if you heard it over the radio that counts too, but thats it.)

You got a CVC for that? No disrespect to any LEO's (especially the great ones on this board) but I've been told so much contradicting information by LEOs regarding the specifics of law that I'm usually best off looking it up in the Vehicle Code.
 
pilotimb said:
You got a CVC for that? No disrespect to any LEO's (especially the great ones on this board) but I've been told so much contradicting information by LEOs regarding the specifics of law that I'm usually best off looking it up in the Vehicle Code.

It's the CVC that says you must operate a vehicle within the lane.

If they want to be a dick, the handlebar being over the lane marker is considered to be out of the lane.

Source for CVC stuff.. Searchable, even!
 
When I did traffic school for a ticket a year ago, they specifically said that it's legal to "pass vehicles in the same lane as you are so long as there is sufficient room." Since then, that's what I've interpreted lane splitting as. Just one long "pass" in your lane. Naturally, the sufficient room part is the grey area to give an officer discrepancy, but it's shouldn't be outright illegal to pass somebody in your own lane, per onlinetrafficsafety.com.

Steve
 
Okay, we have been over this like 1001 times.

The correct term for what you are talking about is LANE SHARING. There is a difference between splitting and sharing.

All states that I am aware of that have a law prohibiting this act title it (and describe it) as lane sharing. We are lucky that in CA, we do not have a law prohibiting lane sharing.

If you are sharing the lane with one of the vehicles and doing so safely, it is legal in CA in illegal in states such as Hawaii and Washington. If you are straddling the lanes in the process (not entirely within one lane), it is illegal in CA as lane straddling is specifically prohibited by the CVC as it is in most all states and countries.

You will not find "lane splitting" addressed in CA law. Just straddling.

Unfortunately, many cops confuse splitting with straddling and I think most riders don't understand the technical difference between lane sharing, lane straddling and lane splitting. If people would stop calling the act "lane splitting" and started consistently calling it "lane sharing," it may cut down on the confusion.

The important thing to understand is that there is a law in CA prohibiting straddling lanes (21658(a) CVC). There is no law specifically allowing or prohibiting lane sharing in CA. If you are cited, it will likely be for lane straddling, unsafe lane change, unsafe passing, speeding or maybe reckless driving. The officer would need to settle on whatever violation s/he felt was most appropriate, based upon what s/he observed.

For reference:
CVC 21658. Whenever any roadway has been divided into two or more clearly marked lanes for traffic in one direction, the following rules apply:
(a) A vehicle shall be driven as nearly as practical entirely within a single lane and shall not be moved from the lane until such movement can be made with reasonable safety.
(b) Official signs may be erected directing slow-moving traffic to use a designated lane or allocating specified lanes to traffic moving in the same direction, and drivers of vehicles shall obey the directions of the traffic device.
 
Could we just sticky this question so people stop asking all the time.. I think Motorman summed up everything pretty well...:thumbup
 
commo27 said:
Could we just sticky this question so people stop asking all the time.. I think Motorman summed up everything pretty well...:thumbup

Aw hell no! That way we can use disk space and bandwidth for worthless repeats.

While we're at it, we should disable searching! :laughing
 
Decisions Decisions....

motorman4life said:
The correct term for what you are talking about is LANE SHARING. There is a difference between splitting and sharing.

All states that I am aware of that have a law prohibiting this act title it (and describe it) as lane sharing. We are lucky that in CA, we do not have a law prohibiting lane sharing.

If you are sharing the lane with one of the vehicles and doing so safely, it is legal in CA in illegal in states such as Hawaii and Washington. If you are straddling the lanes in the process (not entirely within one lane), it is illegal in CA as lane straddling is specifically prohibited by the CVC as it is in most all states and countries.

Wouldn't it just be easier to make EVERYTHING illegal and let the police use his/her discretion? The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech to all its citizens, but we live in a day and age when a citizen can be arrested for “mouthing off”:barf

I guess it doesn’t matter what laws we pass, on a city, state or federal level, because cops have guns, cops have tazers, cops have batons, cops have backup, and cops can use their discretion. It is written into the law.

“Officer, I merged onto 280, saw that there wasn’t a car for miles and used my discretion that 100mph was a safe speed, what’s the problem?” – that shit will never fly.

"Your Honor, in my opinion the vehicle was moving at an unsafe speed, regardless of the posted limit, and in my opinion, had a tail light out" - Verdict: Guilty

In my experience "Lane issues" only come up two times:

1. On the freeway in slow traffic - 99% of freeway "lane sharing" is straddling (unless you pass a Mini Cooper, or sub-compact - a bike and a car don't really fit in the same lane). So that doesn't sound legal....

2. At a Red Light, when there is a long line of cars. Pulling up beside the first car at the light, and then passing that car when the light turns green. That doesn't sound legal either unless it is a long line of Mini Coopers all in the right (or left) side of the lane.....
 
pilotimb said:
You got a CVC for that? No disrespect to any LEO's (especially the great ones on this board) but I've been told so much contradicting information by LEOs regarding the specifics of law that I'm usually best off looking it up in the Vehicle Code.

The question is always, whether you (the vehicle code) agree or disagree, how much success do you think you will have when you try to correct the LEO citing paragraphs when he stops you?
Doesn't that raise your chances to get cited even harder, because now the officer thinks you want to educate him?
Just thinking...issues like that will most likely be resolved between the court and your lawyer. ;)
 
i think peps should just be safe when they share lanes
but if a leo did pull me over for sharing I wouldent try to correct him ither you can get your self in trouble
 
Re: Decisions Decisions....

ChicoRugger said:
In my experience "Lane issues" only come up two times:

1. On the freeway in slow traffic - 99% of freeway "lane sharing" is straddling (unless you pass a Mini Cooper, or sub-compact - a bike and a car don't really fit in the same lane). So that doesn't sound legal....

2. At a Red Light, when there is a long line of cars. Pulling up beside the first car at the light, and then passing that car when the light turns green. That doesn't sound legal either unless it is a long line of Mini Coopers all in the right (or left) side of the lane.....


In my cases, those are the only two times i really split lane, But it looks like it don't fit into "Lane sharing" profile" tho. So would these acts be considered legal? Seriously when would there be actual room to fully "Lane share"?!
 
Chico,
Sounds like you have a little animosity there....but thats ok..alot of people do when talking to or about LEO's. We are here to give information out and help clear up California Vehicle Code matters, as well as some other issues you might be concerned with. Every LEO that posts here does so on their own time, with no compensation.

You have a wealth of knowledge here, that combined has probably over 200 years of Law Enforcement experience to work from. If you want to get some good info, then this is a very good forum to post a question too.

I would ask that you refrain from just coming here to vent about how you might have been treated, what happened in the past that might have been negative, or just a bad attitude in general, so that we can keep this area semi-professional! If you had a particularly bad incident regarding a police officer, I would suggest that you contact their department and discuss it with a supervisor.

Opinions are valued here, and we value yours, but please don't get to inflammatory...like....

"Wouldn't it just be easier to make EVERYTHING illegal and let the police use his/her discretion? The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech to all its citizens, but we live in a day and age when a citizen can be arrested for “mouthing off”

I guess it doesn’t matter what laws we pass, on a city, state or federal level, because cops have guns, cops have tazers, cops have batons, cops have backup, and cops can use their discretion. It is written into the law."

There is no basis for this kind of rant, so please keep this an informative forum area and we will continue to help folks out with their questions.

brash
 
Re: Decisions Decisions....

ChicoRugger said:
Wouldn't it just be easier to make EVERYTHING illegal and let the police use his/her discretion? The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech to all its citizens, but we live in a day and age when a citizen can be arrested for “mouthing off”:barf

Did the big bad policeman give you a ticket when you didn't do anything?

Or did those mean TCPD Officers harass you when you went down Tam at 50, pulled a wheelie in front of the Peso or a big smoky burnout in front of RHS?

Brian
 
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