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MPG, CARB, and the asinine electric car..

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Driving down the LE to pick up my forks the other day, I was caught in traffic while trying to keep my MPG to above 30 by drafting, and using throttle inputs as light as possible. What became obvious to me was the incompetency, which I've known for some time, of CARB and the EPA relative to a national mandate on increasing CAFE standards, while at the same time, putting more autos on the road.

The tests for city and highway MPG standardization tests are done without traffic in two totally different ways. The short of it, they do not reflect real world averages for autos.

Hybrid power is a good alternative, but at best, most hybrids in use are returning around 35 MPG (owner's reports). TDI powered autos are much higher, in the 45 MPG range. But yet we hear nothing of the Diesel engine...an absolutely awesome alternative.

My problems with the CAFE standard and CARB are that neither allow credits for inventive tech, such as Volvo's smog eating radiator and GM's potential "platooning" idea of the early 90's. Everything is about the efficiency of the internal combustion engine and NOT about the efficiency of travel, which really is what dictates real world MPG.

Our crowded freeways are the NUMBER 1 REASON FOR POLLUTION!!!!! DUH! Yet CARB and the EPA have done nothing to alleviate this...instead requiring that manufacturers make autos with better MPG to sit in traffic for hours on end. ALL autos will return roughly the same MPG at a rolling pace and stop/ go traffic.

The solution, IMO is:

Allevialte congestion

Grant credits for inventive tech

release auto makers from the obligation to keep increasing the CAFE standard and instead concentrate on increasing real world averages (this would require a liaison between government traffic officials and auto companies).

allocate portions of vehicle registration revenue for public transportation\

Start a "New/ New deal" and build more interstates, freeways, and roads, throughout the country. Use Army Core of Engineers for as much labor as possible, and prisoners for the remainder.


Anyone else have ideas? This is an absolute disaster...as we sell more autos, we create more pollution due to the TRAFFIC! Not due to SUV'S!!! We need to solve the TRAFFIC issue first and foremost...time to get those worthless prisoners working for our betterment (and giving them a skill when the leave prison.)
 
i'm in full agreement that we need to get the prisoners out there working. i'm also in full agreement that we need to make just about every single freeway double deckers going both ways to double road space.

stronger car pool insentives would help. really strong motorcycle insentives would work wonders for both traffic, parking, and fuel consumption - as well as population control. insentives for people to work different hours of the day/night, hence spreading out the rush hour traffic.

better yet, get "the skycar" project really going. if mass produced they can be had for $50,000 and get 25mph at their cuizing speed of 300mph... that wouldnt help the parking situation, but would certinly help ground conjestion

oh yea - vastly improving public transportion would be a good idea too, but i'd rather take a motorcycle than be on the best public transportation system.. :teeth
 
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Great idea...seriously...

The new Mercedes Benz E320 CDI is shaping up to be one sweeeet car. Volkswagen has made great TDIs for years now, there's just a social stigma associated with smelly diesels. When people think of diesels, they think of 80s-style Mercedes 300Ds, with their volcano-like eruption of black smoke under any kind of acceleration...which is unfortunate, as todays diesels are much cleaner, efficient, and have adequate power to get your around town and on the freeway. :thumbup Great post...
 
Great thoughts Berto, but I'll bet they do the exact opposite of everything you just said.. :(
 
The diesels are over looked they are much better today and you can run them on used vegiteble oil from fast food resturants. I heard the other day you can buy the used oil for around 90 cents a gallon.

I am all for keeping the air clean but some of the new smog laws are ridiculous. I have an old beater truck I use for hauling my bikes and I don't think the guy even knew how to use the new equipment when I was getting a smog check. He didn't chalk the wheels and almost rammed his tool box when testing it.

I also think double decker freeway's would be great but I am sure safety would be a major factor.
 
Hybrids with unique drivetrains work well in traffic...they use the electric motor for anything under a certain MPH, so it seems with them, pollution would be decreased.

I talked to Dono about an idea I had for a situational awareness grid for all automobiles...which could be used for anything else, boats, planes, etc. If a vehicle can know it's location relative to other vehicles within a few inches, imagine the possibilities...platooning here we come!
 
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