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Big drop in kindergarden enrollment and birth rates across the country

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California's schools are emptying out. Experts say it's only going to get worse.
Just this school year, California’s kindergarten through 12th grade public schools enrolled nearly 75,000 fewer students than the year before, according to state data. And over the past decade, California has 420,000 fewer public school students, according to the Public Policy Institute of California, which means less money for the public school system. Driven by a range of factors including lower birth rates, families moving to more affordable areas and immigration crackdowns, the declines are spreading to inner cities, suburbs, rural communities and even fast-growing areas across the country that once seemed immune to demographic slowdown (even Texas, which has drawn California transplants, enrolled 76,000 fewer students in the 2025-26 school year than the prior year).

“This is happening everywhere. … There are very few districts that aren’t experiencing it,” Michael Kirst, a professor emeritus at Stanford University and former president of the California State Board of Education, told SFGATE.
Fewer people are having kids or at least as many kids as before.

Is this driven by economics, social reasons or something else?

p.s. Please keep politics out of this discussion, there is plenty of things to talk about outside of that cesspool that it won't add anything of value.
 
I think the folks in charge have to bite the bullet and downsize accordingly. Sooner than later. Sell off the property here and there and get real with the $$$ they get.

Two of my kids are teachers. Just had breakfast with one of them this morning.
His first day of summer vacation after his first year at a Private School. A very high end one from what I can see from his perspective, pics and chats about 6 graders building robots and using Ai to move them etc. Looks like an amazing and innovative facility.

The other one I will see tonight for dinner. She got laid off so now on the hunt for a new spot. She was very sought after being bilingual but I guess things are changing.

I thought the basic premise was less humans was good. Guess we are see that is not always the case.
 
it's a combination of cost of living and cultural shifts

kids these days just aren't growing up in the traditional sense. a lot of them are stuck as permanent adolescents, with the entitlement and selfish behaviors that go along with it
 
Ya it's diapers.

This is a topic that pleases me, because a huge chunk of it boils down to greed and/or evilcorps. The more direct stuff mentioned above, as well as nasty shit in our food which reduces fertility, which still boils down to greed and/or evilcorps.

I used to have conversations with this one guy about it. I'd say that it's one reason why I'd like to live in rural Europe, because of the widespread prevalence of more natural foods and the EU being less cowardly than the USA about banning/restricting toxic food stuffs. It's just statistics/math, that if people are surrounded by shit food, then shit food is going to make its way into people's bodies.

But, my ol' pal would say that it's up to the individual to inform themselves and navigate toxic stuff of their own free will. He also used to cry about the falling natality rates because he's a pyramid scheming corporate nut hugger and wants the world to be full of mindless tofu worker slaves out there spending all their money with these big corps because people spending money helps his investments (there's that greed again). He used to haaaaate monsanto before he went full retard and now he supports them, while still crying about falling natality rates.

Yess.....yeeeessss.....protect the evilcorps and toxic monsanto garbage while simultaneously being frustrated about falling natality rates. Yeeeeeeessssss please continue this cycle because you're definitely on the right track lol! Did I mention that this is a topic which pleases me..? :laughing
 
lots of things in life are difficult. often, the hard things are more rewarding. on the other hand, modern life has made lots of things in life easy. without struggle, people feel unfulfilled. without accomplishment, people feel hopeless.

people naturally trend towards productivity, in some form or fashion. when people choose to not have kids, they often do something similarly difficult (and rewarding). those people are fulfilled and hopeful; happy without kids. that's just fine!

unfortunately, more people are being sucked into 'productivity without struggle', mostly through overuse of their phones. without a valid struggle in their life, they feel rudderless, losing sense of direction and purpose.

those people need jesus. or kids. or a hard job. something that removes a bit of their free will and pushes them. or maybe not. i might just be projecting my own subservient sense of being onto others. all i know is living for something bigger than myself has worked well for me.
 
Idiocracy pretty much nailed this phenomenon
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Anyone find it amusing how the article starts out with citing the CA 75,000 and TX 76,000 numbers, but follows up in comparison with percentages for other areas? Incompetence, laziness, or just not wanting us to do math?

According to the internet which is always correct........I found 5.73mil students enrolled in CA K-12. 75,000 is approximately 1.31% by my high skool drop out math for reference!

Based on our outlook of the ever increasing speed/course of the upcoming train wreck.......We did our part to crash this shithole and didn't procreate.........

BRAWNDO......The thirst mutilator! It's what plants crave! Does it also seem like we are seeing a real uptick in electrolyte mixes as of late? The youtubers are all on that kick!
 
No kids for wife and me, we just fundamentally don't like them.

Fun anecdote: She usually works oncology/infusion and moonlighted at hospice. She asked for more experience doing different stuff (ideally more procedural) at the hospital, and got sent to family practice, mostly with kids.

That pissed her off and she told her manager. Now on Monday she starts in the abortion clinic. She's stoked.
 
No kids for wife and me, we just fundamentally don't like them.

Fun anecdote: She usually works oncology/infusion and moonlighted at hospice. She asked for more experience doing different stuff (ideally more procedural) at the hospital, and got sent to family practice, mostly with kids.

That pissed her off and she told her manager. Now on Monday she starts in the abortion clinic. She's stoked.
This is s position I fundamentally do not understand. But I do respect the fuck out if it. It’s the best argument for not having children. Procreation is choice no one should feel pressured into or out of IMHO
 
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