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The gun expert from the New York Times

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opinion/10collins.html?hp

If Loughner had gone to the Safeway carrying a regular pistol, the kind most Americans think of when they think of the right to bear arms, Giffords would probably still have been shot and we would still be having that conversation about whether it was a sane idea to put her Congressional district in the cross hairs of a rifle on the Internet.

But we might not have lost a federal judge, a 76-year-old church volunteer, two elderly women, Giffords’s 30-year-old constituent services director and a 9-year-old girl who had recently been elected to the student council at her school and went to the event because she wanted to see how democracy worked.

Loughner’s gun, a 9-millimeter Glock, is extremely easy to fire over and over, and it can carry a 30-bullet clip. It is “not suited for hunting or personal protection,” said Paul Helmke, the president of the Brady Campaign. “What it’s good for is killing and injuring a lot of people quickly.”
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That's funny, when I think of a regular pistol, Glock 19 comes right to mind...
 
This is to be expected of journalists. Consider that if they don't know shit about something you know about (guns), they probably don't know shit about all the other things they report on that you don't know about either.

For the record, the official position of the New York Times was in support of invading Iraq to get rid of weapons of mass destruction. I can't think of a rag with a better undeserved reputation.
 
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Since when is a 9mm Glock not suited for personal protection? That is exactly what I have just for that purpose. And for fun at the range. And since when have they been issued with 30 round clips? Mine only holds 15.
 
Cali said:
Since when is a 9mm Glock not suited for personal protection? That is exactly what I have just for that purpose. And for fun at the range. And since when have they been issued with 30 round clips? Mine only holds 15.
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the magazine might be for a glock 18?
 
Here's the comment I submitted, although I doubt it will be posted:rolleyes.
Don't bother doing any research. A Glock 19 is perfectly suited for self defense - ask any police officer. It is not an assault weapon and has never been illegal to purchase in the U.S. Many police departments and law enforcement agencies still use Glocks. Asking Paul Helmke what he thinks is akin to asking an anarchist what he thinks about the chief of police.

The issue is that there was a clearly mentally unstable person at large whom no one seemed to bother reporting. He could have just as easily plowed into that crowd in an SUV. Don't cloud the issue with your own political agenda. You're taking the easy road in blaming the method instead of taking in the bigger picture, which is the tragic state of mental health care in this country.
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well Glocks do not use CLIPS:x

they use MAGAZINES:mad its a pet peave of mine when people who use guns or talk about them have no idea wtf they are talking about.
 
2nsane said:
well Glocks do not use CLIPS:x

they use MAGAZINES:mad its a pet peave of mine when people who use guns or talk about them have no idea wtf they are talking about.
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Welcome to my world.
 
Should have used a Kimber, you can get like 100 round clips for those. :twofinger

I fucking hate idiocy.
 
"clip" is short/slang for "magazine"

can we just accept that and move on?
 
mike23w said:
gun thread takes turn for worse - devolves into grammar lesson. lol
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It's not grammar, it's basic knowledge. Someone who doesn't know enough about his weapon to know what the parts are called is probably going to end up shooting himself in the balls.
 
LeMec said:
It's not grammar, it's basic knowledge. Someone who doesn't know enough about his weapon to know what the parts are called is probably going to end up shooting himself in the balls.
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Yeah, because knowing that one rod is called an 'extractor rod' and another is the 'cylinder pin' will really prevent you from hurting yourself.

Put in different terms; I know how to sail small boats. I can operate the whole thing. Does the fact that I don't remember the names of all 50 different lines and the names of all 10,000 different sailing knots mean I'm going to die? :laughing


Also, calling the magazine a 'clip' doesn't mean you're unintelligent and uneducated about firearm operation. It just means you and the people you talk to call it a clip. The gas pedal in a car is technically the 'accelerator pedal'. Nobody calls it that, we say 'gas pedal', but everybody uses the same word so it's mostly moot. Language only exists to convey meaning.
 
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