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Zero Tolerance for Speeding in San Jose

I'd like official confirmation of this policy. I think a good response would be a letter campaign stating that we will no longer be attending events or supporting businesses in SJ due to the new policy.
 
Banjoboy said:
Must suck be'in a cop know'in every thang you do is wrong. Murder, robbery, assaults are all up, and yer weak-ass is write'in bullshit 2 over tickets.
What a bunch of thieve'in cowards!
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Welcome to the new order of things..! Where getting robbed or assaulted is just life in the big city... But getting robbed by the man is perfectly legal..! :thumbdown:mad

I believe that's how the beginning of the end of every great super power came about..! :toothless
 
Trial by Written Declaration and if that doesn't work in your favor, Trial de novo.

It's worth a shot. Better than going to court where your chances are slim to none and the cop doesn't get paid to write a response to your TBWD as opposed to going to court where the cop gets paid.
 
RRrider said:
tolerance was in vogue back when inaccuracy was a fact of life due to radar technology. Now with Lidar, accuracy is very good, and tolerance has gone way down. I was in traffic school a few months ago, and the instructor said in the last class, something like 30% - 50% of his recent students were for speeding violations in the 2 - 5 mph over the limit - gone are the days of 7 - 9 mph buffer. And a trained officer's opinion is good in court to within 3mph. The bulk of the majority came from cameras on the east bay (and those are expensive tickets). The game is changing.
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Too bad there is no legal precedent for the courts to rely upon to accept Lidar into evidence is someone raises a Kelly/Frye objection. (NOTE: If you have to look up the Kelly/Frye Test, then you are not qualified to make that objection in court!!!)

My research tends to show that all of the tickets issued by the SJPD are invalid. I will find out the next time I file a demurrer. Updates later.

Scotty
 
In Bohdi's words, "Why be a servant of the law when you can be its master."
 
theAmazingKickstand said:
^^^ I think it's your responsibility to make sure your speedo is accurate.
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Yes I shall constantly adjust my speedo to compensate for tire wearbecause a 1-2mph discrepancy should be enough to be fined for. Not to mention on older cars with analog speedos you often can't gauge expect speed between the 5mph marks and most vehicle speedos have a 1-2 mph margin of error.
I think people pushing zero-tolerance laws should be clubbed out of positions of power. If you honestly think going 1-3mph over the speed limit is an issue than perhaps you should reevaluation your priorities. SJPD has better things to do than write $25 tickets to people that aren't dangerous to anyone.
Seriously if going 26mph instead of 25mph in a school zone is that much more dangerous that a LEO should have to spend time pulling someone over and writing a ticket than maybe we should just ban cars in school zones.
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I challenge any LEO writing such a ticket to explain how they are making my city/county/state safer by tagging someone going 2-3mph over the speed limit.
 
Vanilla_Gorilla said:
My GF just got a speeding ticket on 680 in SJ about an hour ago. She was going a little faster than 2 mph over, but still.
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Not many car speedos are calibrated that closely. That would be an absolutely chicken-shit ticket.

Ahhh shit...never mind. I was so incensed by that post I didn't read any further. :twofinger
 
Same thing year after year after year.....I wouldn't worry about it.

PS: SJ's budget shortall is really no different than most other cities in the bay area
 
Just talked with a friend who is a retired SO in Stanislaus Co. where if you are robbed they DO NOT send a officer unless perp is still on site (and armed?). You are instructed to fill out your own report online....Welcome to the new order....
 
weasel said:
Judgment call I'm sure. I was pacing a cop this morning doing 32 in a 25 by work, actually two, there was one in front of me and one behind me. I checked my speed and thought "meh, I don't want to slow the one behind me down"

I have seen a lot more cops then normal this week though :dunno
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Same. I'm usually 3-5 over the limit in most cases. Haven't been stopped yet. On the other side of the coin, I'm sure the person getting ticketed was over the couple mph they were cited for as well.
 
Meh. Passed a SJ cop on 280 right near downtown yesterday doing 8-10 over and he looked at me and did nothing. I did have my shields up though.

I don't buy the NT, but even if they are doing it, they're going to be so busy pulling over cars that your chances of getting a ticket are no higher than usual. Don't drive like an asshat and you're unlikely to get a ticket.
 
Zero tolerance for a fucked up system...... Sorry I am 2MB over.

I should pay!
 
San Jose is also where they have the unmarked parked white vans in neighborhoods with photo-radar in them. Some congressman wants to take the successful experiment statewide. Beware out there, and keep Scotty's PM address handy!
 
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RRrider said:
San Jose is also where they have the unmarked parked white vans in neighborhoods with lidar in them.
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That actually resulted in a lawsuit:

San Jose sued over dubious speeding tickets

LAW FIRM WANTS $1 MILLION FOR DRIVERS FINED UNDER PHOTO-RADAR PROGRAM

A San Jose law firm filed a $1 million claim against the city over a photo-radar traffic program the city scuttled amid concerns it was illegal.

Plaintiff sought refunds for motorists who paid speeding fines under the city’s Neighborhood Automated Speed Compliance Program, or NASCOP. Plaintiff's attorney said the claim lays the groundwork for a possible class-action lawsuit on behalf of thousands of drivers who paid fines that ranged from $99 to $350.


NASCOP, which San Jose launched in 1996, featured a city traffic engineer in an unmarked van equipped with a speed-sensing radar gun and digital cameras to snap cars speeding by. Speeding tickets were then mailed to the registered owners of those cars.

Scotty
 
^^^ Cool! I hadn't heard that! Thx
 
dtrides said:
Just talked with a friend who is a retired SO in Stanislaus Co. where if you are robbed they DO NOT send a officer unless perp is still on site (and armed?). You are instructed to fill out your own report online....Welcome to the new order....
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Well yeah, cities don't have any money to pay cops to do anything non-essential and there's no immediate danger. Why do you even need an officer to show up? Write your own report so you include the information you want.

Archimedes said:
I don't buy the NT, but even if they are doing it, they're going to be so busy pulling over cars that your chances of getting a ticket are no higher than usual. Don't drive like an asshat and you're unlikely to get a ticket.
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Yep. They can try to ticket everyone doing 3+ mph over the limit, but the end result will be them trying to ticket everyone. Never ending task.
 
Hehe, when an attorney makes a thread like this, the types of posts we see are cleaned up quite nicely. Where are our fellow LEO's? :later
 
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