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LEGIT SALE? OR COMPLETE SCAM??!!

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Hot.SAUCE

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Joined
May 7, 2011
Location
stockton
Moto(s)
1994 Yamaha TZ125
came across this too good to be true deal on craigslist. ive been in contact with the sellers for 4 days now and its been sounding like a scam because to their efforts to sell the bike has gone to great distance but yet, "coincidentally" they are leaving the state. ill provide our email conversations and original ad.

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ORIGINAL AD:

2005 Suzuki Gsx-R750, I am currently selling my Gsx-r 750 for $2,500 or best offer. The bike has 14k miles. Bike runs good, just changed oil, filter, and coolant. It has an aftermarket rear sprocket and chain, akropovic slip on exhaust, and steel braided brake lines. ONLY SERIOUS BUYERS, I have pinks in hand... $2,500.00 ....

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ME:

im interested in the GSXR 750 you have for sale. send pics to (xxx)xxx-xxxx.

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SELLER:

The bike is 2005 Suzuki GSX-R750 K5 has 14,128 actual mileage in good condition with a clear title for $x,xxx.
Never had Accidents, Dents, Scratches, Cracks or Damage before. Find the attachment for the photos.
Let me know if you are still interested ASAP....
Regards
JOE G. SNUFFY

(sends 12 pics showing 360 view of bike)

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ME:

I am interested. Give me a call or text at (xxx)xxx-xxxx. Id like to check it out

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SELLER:

Thanks for your interest, The bike is still available. I have taken up an appointment with the World Health Organization (WHO) and I’ve to move. I’d have actually left it behind, but my father advised that I should sell the bike since nobody to ride the bike.
Kept inside garage . All service - on time. BIKE IS ROAD READY. I also have all the original equipment. Now, I want you to get in touch with my father in the states for more discussion as his with the motorcycle and it's papers documents.
Please i want you to note that, I am a kind and honest man and also i spent a lot of money on the bike, so i solicit for your absolute maintenance of this bike.
Send my Father "Brandon "an Immediate message on bvcountryboi@gmail.com he will attend to you better.

Regards
Robert W. Verrege

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ME to second SELLER:

hi brandon.

i spoke with your son, robert about the sale of his gsx-r750. id like to setup a day that i can take a look at the bike
and possibly purchase it. please contact me ASAP.

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SECOND SELLER:

The bike belongs to my son Robert W. Verrege. He has decided to sell the bike out due to his trip with The World Health Organization (WHO) and because of these I have moved to Jonesboro, GA State in my house.

I have asked movers to bring the motorcycle here so it is not abandoned in the garage and can be tested at least occasionally.

Also its important you know that my son is selling the bike due to his transfer from work, and i'm too "old" to ride a bike. We don't want it damaged and we are looking for someone who can take very good care of it as we are not after the money, but want it to be in good hands.

The bike is in perfect condition, no major fault or damages, not wrecked, never layed down, never dropped, not out in rain ... clear title plus paperwork/invoice/bill of purchase (just to show proof of ownership). We don't need to keep the extra accessories so they'll be going too.

I'd be looking to read from you again.

Brad
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ME:

so, with the bike being transfered to GA, how am i supposed to take a loot at it and purchase it? please give me a call so we can clear this up. (xxx)xxx-xxxx

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SELLER:

Hi,

I wont be chanced to arrange a meeting or show, especially when I have to leave the city. I am handing the bike to a shipping company to bring down to you to test-run and look through the title/pink slip. As I explained earlier the title is already in good shape, duly signed and prepared for transferee to complete.

Payment can be handled by escrow through the shipping company, I don't mind. While delivery charges will be handled by me. What's your opinion on this?

I will talk to my son to make sure we all get along.

Brad
(770) 847-0086

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ME:

i would really like to meet the person selling / making the transaction FIRST. THEN, take a look at the bike, and pay the seller cash. i dont like to include a middle man. cash up front. seller up front.

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SELLER:

After the discussion between my son and I, both decides to finish the sales of the bike with you by using Dunrite Motorcycle Shipping and Transport Inc.., there website is (www.sendcycle.com) to finalize this transaction with you by shipping the bike from here...I'm sure we can proceed this way. You will have 5 days to inspect the bike according to the bike description and condition of the shipping company, after inspect and checking of the papers to your satisfactions, then you will contact the Dunrite Motorcycle Shipping and Transport Inc.. to release the payment to me. The shipping company will protect your money and our bike. They will keep your money in their custody till you receive and inspect the motorcycle to your satisfactions. You will be able to check the bike properly and verify the papers and make sure everything matches our description!

Note: You are to deposit half payment and pay the remaining balance upon delivery.

This is an assurance for you that we are legit! and If there is something that is not as described, then you contact the shipping company to come pick the bike and return it back to there custody, You will be refunded your payment back from the Dunrite Motorcycle Shipping and Transport Inc.. The cost for shipping the bike down to your location will be paid by me as i'm too "old" to run around.

Therefore, if you are really interested in buying my son's bike, get back to me with the below details so that the shipping company can proceed with the shipment:-

Contact Name (First Name and Last Name):
Delivery Address:
Home Phone No.:
Mobile Phone No:
Nearest Highway to your home:
Best Time to Make Delivery:

Kindly provide me with the above information, so that the shipping company can proceed further with the delivery and payment.

Brad
(770) 847-0086

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seems safe. looked up the shipping company. copy/pasted AD and emails to google, bing, yahoo.. no similar stories.

sounds like alot of work to go through to sell a bike for such a low price.
 
Scam.
 
no doubt... scam.

Send them your favorite enemy's information. :laughing
 
yep, surely scam. Nice bike sale @ half or less of the actual value...

address move, asking too little money (half-down) to be shipped...

move it to GA so you can't inspect it (because it probably doesn't exist)

move on...
 
Hay want to own a piece of the Golden Gate Bridge. I know a guy who knows a guy who can hook you up:p
 
Scammer 1 billion percent. Tell him you're an airline pilot and will fly to see the bike and he'll tell you the bike can not be seen. But really, why continue wasting your time?
 
It is totally legit! I know Snuffy and Verrege. If you are not comfortable with the arrangement, give me the cash and I can be the go-between! :thumbup















:facepalm
 
The fact that anyone has to even ask if this is a scam is the reason why these scammers persist. Because there are people foolish enough to fall for them.

OP, seriously? You thought there was even a chance it was legit?
 
busapassion said:
Scammer 1 billion percent. Tell him you're an airline pilot and will fly to see the bike and he'll tell you the bike can not be seen. But really, why continue wasting your time?
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Now there's an idea. Tell him you'll be in Atlanta next xxxxday, & want to come look at the bike. You want to make an appointment.

Then it will become painfully obvious when he can't produce address/time/place for inspection of bike. I can hear it on phone: "uh uh uh...we having it worked on at dealer so you can't come see it right now" Or some other foolishness...
 
send me your monies and i'll procure it for you
 
EastBayDave said:
Now there's an idea. Tell him you'll be in Atlanta next xxxxday, & want to come look at the bike. You want to make an appointment.

Then it will become painfully obvious when he can't produce address/time/place for inspection of bike. I can hear it on phone: "uh uh uh...we having it worked on at dealer so you can't come see it right now" Or some other foolishness...
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There was a thread on Barf where someone fucked with a scammer like that, the scammer even showed up to post.:laughing
 
Basically anytime you hear "Please i want you to note that, I am a kind and honest man" randomly without you asking them something directly about their kindness / honestly .. its a scam.
 
EastBayDave said:
Now there's an idea. Tell him you'll be in Atlanta next xxxxday, & want to come look at the bike. You want to make an appointment.
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They'll just come up with another reason why you can't see it. Don't waste time on the scammers unless you want to mess with them.

I remember a Ducati Monster that was only "just a little bit" too good to be true. When I inquired about it they said that it was in Asheville, NC. I happened to know somebody in the area who is a Monster expert, so I tried to make arrangements for him to have a look and possibly buy it for me. Then the story changed. They'll already have an excuse for why you can't see it before purchase.

Unless it's a rare and desirable bike, just about all out of town motorcycle sales are scams.
 
The last time I was looking at a bike in Las Vegas for my family there, the scammer said the bike was in Modesto. I said, "Sweet, I'm in SF, I'll be down on Saturday." He spent a couple of days trying to convince me to still send the money online.
 
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