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Ca State Senator Joe Simitian to gut the OHV fund

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We have had some difficulty getting real facts, but it appears they are going to be taking all of the OHV money tomorrow during their budget hearing.

If you like riding at Hollister, Prairie City or Carnegie, and have areas to ride in the future, please contact your State Assembly Member, your State Senator, and
Senator Joe Simitian.
160 Town & Country Village
Palo Alto, CA 94301
(650) 688-6384
http://www.senatorsimitian.com/contact

Also send emails to Assembly Members Gordon and Alejo (they are friends of OHV on the Assembly Budget Committee and locals)
Gordon 650-691-2121 or lucas.frerichs@asm.ca.gov
Alejo - 916-319-2028 or marva.diaz@asm.ca.gov
 
If they take all of the OHV money, then I guess we don't have to register our OHV's anymore? I mean, that was the entire deal right? We'd pay OHV costs if they managed land for us to ride on?
 
If they spend my OHV money on keeping State Parks open, does that mean I get to ride my OHV there?
 
this is critical. we are being fucked tomorrow, unless we stop them from from representing special interests in lieu of their constituents.

Make noise! Tell everyone!
 
this is perfect; we demand no reduced fundung to OHV until this is explained

Subcommittee No. 2 May 9, 2012
Senate Committee on Budget and Fiscal Review Page 8
ITEM PROPOSED FOR DISCUSSION
State Parks and Recreation—Ongoing Sustainable Funding Proposal
Previous Subcommittee Actions. The Senate Budget Subcommittee #2 heard proposals
from the Department of Parks and Recreation on March 7 of this year. The department answered
questions from members of the Committee and Senator Evans on the department’s response to
implement budget reductions and the proposal to close state parks. The subcommittee held open
the following: (1) the local assistance program including off-highway vehicle funds, recreational
trail funds and federal trust funds; (2) lifeguard headquarters; (3) off-highway vehicle
opportunity purchases; and (4) the department’s proposal for revenue incentive opportunities.
The Subcommittee required the department to submit by April 9 a list of the rationale for park
closures which was received on April 9.
Background. As of April 26, the department has reduced the number of parks slated for
closure from 70 to 54. While this doesn’t mean the parks remaining open will continue to be
open in exactly the same manner, the effort of the department and particularly the efforts of the
hundreds of local organizations stepping up to support parks is commendable.
Options to Provide Ongoing and Sustainable Support. As referenced in the Senate
Red book and testimony by the Department, it is clear that simply funding the department at
previous year levels is not sufficient to address structural problems inherent at the department.
The breadth of the problem includes a deferred maintenance backlog in excess of $1 billion,
increasing operations and maintenance costs, collapse of septic and wastewater systems designed
for a much lower capacity, restrictive funding sources, and a need for a cultural shift to match the
changed funding streams at the department.
Rather than look for one-time solutions solely, this subcommittee proposes a suite of changes,
some in statute, and others in budget actions, designed to address the structural funding problem
and promote cultural shift within the department. This proposal will still require short-term
closures of a smaller number of parks in order to provide time to ramp up some of these
programs. In the long run, implementing these changes this will go far towards providing a more
stable and long-term solution. This proposal can dramatically reduce the number of full park
closures necessary in the budget year, and ensure that the number of parks to be reopened in
future budget years increases substantially.
These proposals are intended to complement other legislative proposals currently being
considered by the policy committees including SB 1078—the State Parks Revenue Generation
Act and SB 974 (Evans) —The State Parks Closure Review Act.
Subcommittee No. 2 May 9, 2012
Senate Committee on Budget and Fiscal Review Page 9
Senate Sustainable Parks Proposal—Recommendations
The following are a series of seven proposals to address problems identified by the Legislature,
the Legislative Analyst’s Office (LAO), and the administration that are barriers to a sustainable
Parks program. The solution statements constitute the staff recommendation, in consultation
with Senator Simitian and Senator Evans, including an eighth proposal discussed separately that
introduces a transportation funding proposal.
Problem 1: Department needs funding flexibility to become more entrepreneurial.
Solution: Approve administration’s two-year pilot proposal for continuous appropriation
authority including trailer bill language requiring the department to report uses of
the fund, and to require at least 50 percent of the funding received from district
entrepreneurial projects to remain within that district.
Problem 2: Personnel structure at the department restricts ability for the department to
direct peace officers to the highest priorities.
Solution: Approve LAO recommendation (trailer bill language) in part to add position
authority to allow non-peace officers to administer certain non-law enforcement
tasks. This proposal would be phased-in over a period of two years.
Problem 3: The department should be collecting entrance fees in more locations and
utilizing concession agreements in as many areas as practical.
Solution: Approve LAO recommendation to approve entrance fee proposals and concession
agreements. Require a percentage to remain in the district for revenue-related
projects (budget bill language).
Problem 4: Department needs more varied funding sources and Parks supporters need a
more visible way to show support for the department.
Solution: As mentioned in the LAO report, approve trailer bill language for both (1) an optin
fee for vehicle renewal and (2) a specialty plate for parks alone.
Problem 5: According to a report by the department in May 2011, at least 20 parks were
put on the closure list in part due to water, wastewater, and septic system
problems. Many of these are due to both aging facilities and increased
visitor-ship beyond the capacity of these older systems.
Solution: Approve budget bill language appropriating $10 million annually as long-term
loans from the Clean Water Revolving Loan Fund for five years to replace the
State Parks and Recreation Funding and to complement bond funding for water
quality and septic system repairs. Recommend funding be prioritized to allow for
re-opening of parks and directed to lower income areas to the extent possible.
Problem 6: Local nonprofits who step up to take over parks may be subject to additional
liability risk which could deter their efforts to help support State Parks.
Solution: Approve trailer bill language to extend limited liability coverage to local and
nonprofit agencies who partner with State Parks to take over functions or
management of parks or park properties.
Subcommittee No. 2 May 9, 2012
Senate Committee on Budget and Fiscal Review Page 10
 
Wasn't there a thread about this 3 weeks ago?


There was.. Butch and I tried to get in to meet with Senator Joe S.. and got stonewalled.. sucks as he reps me (District).

Here is the press release on the issue:
http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolaler...s-announce-plan-to-keep-state-parks-open.html

Here is the snippet that bites our off road system in the ass:

"The proposal, which will be heard by a Senate budget subcommittee Wednesday afternoon, includes shifting as much as $40 million from existing state accounts for road maintenance, septic system repairs and trails and off-highway vehicle funds to cover parks' costs. That money would be used for purposes consistent with the original intent of those funds, Evans and Simitian said."


And the red part is completely not true.. the original intent was to keep our off road vehicle parks in order..:x This will lead to them continuing to degrade and potential future closure IMO.

So they basically ignored us and I would think his constituents would have been important enough to get a little input from considering the letter pasted below.

I started well over a month ago with a phone call to his office.

After receiving this
From: "Winstead, Brock" <BrockWinstead@sen.ca.gov>
To: Senator Simitian <Senator.Simitian@SENATE.CA.GOV>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: your recent e-mail regarding OHV funding

My name is Brock Winstead, and I handle transportation issues for Senator Simitian in his district office in Palo Alto. I'm writing to you now because you recently contacted State Senator Joe Simitian (or me directly) about state funding for off-highway vehicle parks.

There seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around about this issue. First and foremost, I want to clear up the misconception that Senator Simitian wants to cut OHV funding, eliminate the local assistance grants, or specifically target funding for an individual park (like Motorcycle County Park on Metcalf Road in San Jose, which many people wrote about). He has not made any proposals along those lines, or even expressed any kind of intention whatsoever about OHV funding in this year's budget.

Senator Simitian chairs the State Senate budget subcommittee that will, at some point in the next couple of months, make a recommendation about OHV funding (in the context of their recommendations about funding for everything related to Parks & Recreation). So far, that subcommittee has had only a very brief discussion touching on OHV funding, and they chose to "hold open" that item -- meaning that no action was taken. The budget outline from which they were working was from the Governor's January budget proposal, with this item originating in the Department of Parks and Recreation itself.

Let me reiterate that: neither Senator Simitian nor anyone else in the Legislature created the budget proposal discussed by the subcommittee. They took no action on that proposal as it related to OHV funding, and expressed no intentions about possible future actions. As with most parts of the budget, the subcommittee is waiting to see what the Governor puts in his mid-May revised budget proposal, which will be based on updated revenue projections, feedback from the public and the Legislature since the January proposal, and probably some changes based on the Governor's proposed ballot measure to raise taxes.

We're not sure where this rumor started that Senator Simitian has it out for OHV funding, but it isn't true. It is certainly the case that the state faces continued budget cuts this year, and pretty much everything is exposed to some degree of danger for cuts (from schools to healthcare to, yes, OHV park funding), but there haven't been any specific threats made against OHV funding by Senator Simitian. The only budget proposal out there at this point is the Governor's, and very little of that January proposal has been taken up by the Legislature.

One other thing, regarding the Metcalf Road park specifically. It receives money from the OHV "local assistance grants," but the decision about which parks get those grants is not made by the Legislature. Those decisions are made by the Department of Parks & Recreation as part of their annual grant application process. It is not within Senator Simitian's power to direct local assistance funding toward or away from any individual park. The Legislature will put together a budget that allocates some level of funding for the OHV grants, but it will still be up to the state Department of Parks & Recreation to decide whether Metcalf or any other particular park receives funding from that source.

You've done the right thing by contacting Senator Simitian about a program you care about. That's what good advocates do, and we welcome your continued advocacy. But I wanted to make sure you knew the truth about where this issue stands right now, which is much less dire than some of the information floating around online would have you believe.

It's probably impossible to entirely unring the bell of this misinformation, but I'd certainly appreciate it if you could share this with your friends and fellow riders.

Thanks for being in touch, and let me know if you have any questions about this.

Regards,
Brock Winstead
Office of State Senator Joe Simitian
http://www.senatorsimitian.com
855 El Camino Real, Suite 160
Palo Alto, CA 94301
(650) 688-6384
(650) 688-6370 fax
brock.winstead@sen.ca.gov


So I called Brock:
"You have to contact this lady in Sac to set up a meeting"
I called her the same day.

She told me I have to email in a request, which I did.

Here is the email (which I ended up chasing her at least 3 more times to see what was happening. Not a single reply.

From: Bud kobza [mailto:thebudman@kobza.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:26 PM
To: 'stephanie.hineline@sen.ca.gov'
Subject: Meeting with Joe regarding Motorcycle OHV parks

Hi Stephanie,

Per our phone call I am writing to request a meeting on Friday the 20th with Senator Simitian.

My name is Dennis Kobza Jr. and I am a lifelong Palo Alto resident. My real job is Commercial Architecture www.kobza.com , but this request is based on my interest in Motorcycling. I have been living in Palo Alto since I was one year old and started dirt biking when I was 8. ( I am now 53). I own the largest internet Motorcycle Forum in the Country and we happen to be based in Palo Alto serving the Bay Area and beyond. www.bayarearidersforum.com

We have over 40,000 users the bulk of which are in the Bay Area. I encourage our members to ride the dirt as often as possible because of not only the fun, but to also enhance the skills that will make them safer on our roadways.

When I was young we could ride in Palo Alto at a few locations and there was a Police Athletic League track in Sunnyvale as well. I have been going to Holister Hills OHV since I was 14 and have enjoyed it every time. It is a great park. As a young Dad I took my sons to ride too and Metcalf Park and Holister Hills both became great spots for them to go to in their teens. I knew as a Dad they were in a good environment and could enjoy the activity as safely as possible.

I am also on two State Motorcycle Safety committees and have made presentations to both the CHP and the OTS.
I am dedicated to protecting our right to ride and places to ride. I am also a life member of the AMA http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/ and our forum is the first ever Online Motorcycle Community (O/MC #1). We often engage in issues the AMA finds that affect motorcyclist and I am keeping them updated with our goal of meeting with the Senator.

I would like to meet with Joe to discuss the OHV status and upcoming potential issues with funding for them, so I can keep my forum members aware of what is going and be ready to pursue our rights to actively work to keep them open and in good shape for us and for future generations.

Synopsis of the discussion points for the meeting:
As I understand it this issue is going to be addressed soon and the $29M that Senator Simitian is considering holding "open" out of the OHV Trust Fund are General Fund monies. I believe therefore, there would be no net savings by removing them from the budget it and it will not help in fixing the budget deficit. In fact the money spent out of the OHV Trust Fund is often a key to keep State Parks open and staffed appropriately. Given that the OHV Trust Fund can only be spent in those program areas identified in statute and generated by user fees, registration on OHVs and tax from the fuel burned while recreating in OHV areas cutting dollars in this area does help to balance the budget.

The State of California budget provides funding for the 2011/12 Grants Program grant cycle in the amount of $21 million. The amount allocated for the four categories within the Grants Program that Senator Simitian is holding open ($21M) are as follows:

Operations and Maintenance (50%): $10.5 million - typically maintaining trails and paying for staff to work on the trails and monitor resources. Without these dollars resources become harder to protect, maintain and restore.

Restoration (25%): $5.25 million (plus an additional $1.1 million) - Over the last 2-3 years these dollars have repaired millions of dollars in damage and prevented cumulative resource damage. Cutting these dollars will potentially stop the work that has been started and possibly cause advances to be lost.

Law Enforcement (20%): $4.2 million - Over the last 3-4 years of the program LE has really begun to make progress in educating and preventing OHV trespass and damage. I fear the loss of funding would cause some programs to be eliminated completely, especially given the restructuring that is occurring in most Sheriff Departments with realignment. Without these facilities properly maintained and open I also fear that other State lands may be at risk of trespass thus creating more negative impacts against motorcyclist. People want to ride and will stay where they should when the facilities are there and the costs are acceptable.

Education and Safety (5%): $1.05 million - These are valuable programs especially for kids that get them into the outdoors with their families and provide great exercise, family time and begin to help them respect nature. We have many families on the Bay Area Riders Forum that choose to guide their children into the sport. This makes these kids as they grow older, both better rounded adults and it has a huge impact on their riding skills if they choose to ride on the street. I know this from my own history of dirt riding, motocross and road racing and the skillset it has given me to operate a street bike as safely as possible.

The regulations further breakdown the Operations and Maintenance into four sub-categories (Ground Operations, Acquisition, Development and Planning). The LE category is also broken down into three sub-categories: Local (the majority of which is Sheriff's Departments), BLM and USFS.

The areas listed above include the $400-500k that has typically gone to Metcalf annually. This program is more critical than ever given the tight budgets that all of the recreation providers in California currently have and the cuts that Santa Clara County is currently facing.

The $5.9M that is allocated to Hollister Hills is a project that has been in the planning for the last 4 years and replaces miles of deteriorated and damaged water lines, as well as sewer lines that have been in place since the 1960s. Some of the sewer systems have failed regularly and pose a resource threat with their proximity to streams and creeks. Hollister Hills DOES NOT have access to State Parks Bonds to make repairs like other parks have been able to do in recent years.

The financial impact to businesses that cater to off road riders could also have a big impact. The Motorcycle industry has been challenged for years both by economic challenges and the loss of places to ride. I feel it is of the utmost importance to keep and maintain the parks we do have.

I look forward to conveying this to the Senator and also becoming educated on his vision of the funding and the motorcycle OHV areas.

Sincerely,

Dennis

Denny "Budman" Kobza
Owner: Bay Area Riders Forum - AMA O/MC #01
Founder:1Rider Motorcycle Safety Campaign
www.bayarearidersforum.com
AMA #: 203453~Life Member
650-XXX-XXXX

** The above to a lot of time and homework to put together too..!**

Finally on April 30th I received a phone call saying "we can set up a conference call".
Butch had to stop by his office to get the phone call made to me.
She specifically asked my if I was the guy hanging around the office today..:laughing (Thanks Butch)

A conference call is :bs in my opinion as that lacks the real give and take face to face and coordinating a couple of folks I wanted involved to share others interests (besides barf) was impossible to make happen in a two days.

His office is two miles from my house too.. :rolleyes

Perhaps the detailed letter via Email about the for the meeting was too much good info..and he was scurred.:p

At this point I think a little demonstration Rally at his office in Palo Alto is in order. :mad Call out the press.. and get a bunch of riders groups to show up too. This is headed the wrong way.

Frankly I am mad that trying to work within the system had no result really and now I see this. :thumbdown

I hope whatever Butch and I pursue.. you will have our backs.
We will need the support.

Budman
 
I got the same lame, 'oh it is not us' letter from Brock Winstead.

Thanks for raising cane on this one guys.
 
The cane has just begun.
 
I am sending this momentarily:

Sir/ madam:

I understand the budget committee is meeting today with the intent of raiding the OHV Trust fund for monies to help balance the budget. As these funds are in trust, and paid for and allocated to OHV, it is both immoral and illegal to take this course of action. In the short and long term, this is a poor financial decision because it would withdraw funding from established state programs. You would be responsible for the laying off of more rangers and the eroding natural habitat.

Please represent me, as it is your position do to so, in opposing this improper re-allocation of funds.
 
If you guys organize a rally to help our cause, let me know! You have my total support on this!
 
Here is what Simitian is up to:

http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/05/california-senators-announce-plan-to-keep-state-parks-open.html


Please read the whole article but here are the first few paragraphs:

Democratic state Sens. Joe Simitian and Noreen Evans today rolled out a proposal aimed at keeping the gates open at more than 50 California state parks set to close this summer.

The proposal, which will be heard by a Senate budget subcommittee Wednesday afternoon, includes shifting as much as $40 million from existing state accounts for road maintenance, septic system repairs and trails and off-highway vehicle funds to cover parks' costs. That money would be used for purposes consistent with the original intent of those funds, Evans and Simitian said.

Other recommendations include facilitating operating agreements with nonprofits, improving entry fee collection efforts and exploring other funding sources, such as license plates and concessions agreements. Some parks would still likely have to close, but supporters said they hoped those would be able to reopen in the future thanks to the plan.


Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolaler...n-to-keep-state-parks-open.html#storylink=cpy

I'm guessing the two state senators are following up on a proposal from two years ago by PEER to target the OHV funding generated by gas taxes and use them for the non-OHV parks in the system.

More on the PEER agenda:

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/12/10-2
 
Thank you for the writeup, Budman. I also got the form letter from Brock Winstead.

Besides email, what else can/should we do?
 
This has been in the works since Daphne Greene was ousted.
 
this just in:

Decision moved to 23rd. for more discussion HH got the 5 million they needed.
More to come. Department of State Parks got hammered by Chair yesterday.
Pickett/Haris and Granat testified at hearing. Ditto Terry McHale of Aaron Read and Assoc…………
 
Update.
NBC local news is currently reporting how our elected heroes are doing this creative senate bill to save our parks but make no mention of the source.
How disappointing is that?! :thumbdown:thumbdown

Everyone needs to get involved.....
We are being run over by our own government.
When they close all the OHV parks and riding areas people will stop buying dirt bikes due to distance travel issues (already a huge supermoto problem!) and overcrowding/safety issues once there. Then slow sales will cause the mc manufacturers to slow/stop producing them and then our sport will only be another distant memory of the good old days. What will remain are the renegades that insist on riding on private property and thus the general public will ultimately remember this sport as good riddance of another problem.

Sorry about the rant folks but this is getting ridiculous!

-Jeff
 
Update.
NBC local news is currently reporting how our elected heroes are doing this creative senate bill to save our parks but make no mention of the source.
How disappointing is that?! :thumbdown:thumbdown

Everyone needs to get involved.....
We are being run over by our own government.
When they close all the OHV parks and riding areas people will stop buying dirt bikes due to distance travel issues (already a huge supermoto problem!) and overcrowding/safety issues once there. Then slow sales will cause the mc manufacturers to slow/stop producing them and then our sport will only be another distant memory of the good old days. What will remain are the renegades that insist on riding on private property and thus the general public will ultimately remember this sport as good riddance of another problem.

Sorry about the rant folks but this is getting ridiculous!

-Jeff


well put. this is whole deal is a load. I sent a few emails but I feel like we need to have get some publicity somehow.
 
why isnt the AMA doing anything about this?

i dont dirtbike, but i still think there should be areas for individuals to do so.
 
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