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Old 07-25-2018, 06:44 AM   #1
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WANTED: lane splitting video

Hello,

I'm from Oregon and working to legalize lane splitting in the state.

We're putting together a short educational video and need some footage of folks lane splitting. If someone's GoPro-equipped and willing to help, please PM me with info.

Oregon's looking to legalize only when:
1. traffic is stopped or moving less than 10 mph, and
2. the motorcycle is traveling at no more than 10 mph faster than cars
so video meeting those conditions appreciated.

If you can help, please do!

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Old 07-25-2018, 08:20 AM   #2
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Old 07-25-2018, 08:44 AM   #3
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Hope someone can provide such.

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Old 07-25-2018, 11:10 AM   #4
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Good question about the wheelies! Slow and steady and simple, please. (If it's a wheelie, a nice, controlled one!

A mix of highway and urban riding would be nice, but not necessary.

Many folks in Oregon have never really seen lane splitting, and when they hear about it, they imagine bikes flying by them at a 50 mph differential. We're trying to show that lane splitting can be done safely and prudently.

Any more questions, please ask!

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I made this VLOG a while back if it helps, 10 MPH seems like it's too slow at least on the freeway 25MPH freeway speed with +10MPH rider speed seems ok haha because that's exactly what I was doing in the video.

Goodluck with the splitting lanes I have found it is a culture thing and people will get outraged if it's not accepted practice. Like in Japan everyone does it nobody cares. Split lanes in non-California state and cagers flip their lids. I find that splitting lanes isn't really necessary outside of congested metropolitan areas.


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Old 07-25-2018, 12:42 PM   #6
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Hello Patrino,

Here are a couple of many that I have, but these are edited. Gives you a diverse blend of visuals in about 20 minutes of commute video. Let me know if you are looking for anything specific and perhaps we can find or make the video for you.

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Old 07-25-2018, 12:44 PM   #7
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Here's another one we did working with Bay Area Riders Forum, 1Rider and lanesplittingislegal.com to provide a visual of delta speeds

We highlighted a 15 mph delta ceiling, but it does reflect 10 mph at the beginning of the comparisons.


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Old 07-25-2018, 12:52 PM   #8
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Here's another one we did working with Bay Area Riders Forum, 1Rider and lanesplittingislegal.com to provide a visual of delta speeds

We highlighted a 15 mph delta ceiling, but it does reflect 10 mph at the beginning of the comparisons.

Maybe you should do another video where you are not at risk from drivers opening their doors on you. I hope it's just camera distortion that makes it seem that you are closer than you are, because I would never want to be as close to parked cars as that video seems at 35mph!!
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Maybe you should do another video where you are not at risk from drivers opening their doors on you. I hope it's just camera distortion that makes it seem that you are closer than you are, because I would never want to be as close to parked cars as that video seems at 35mph!!
Luckily, because I was doing laps up and down the street, I knew who was getting in or out of their car. You definitely wouldn't see me doing that otherwise as I ride bicycles through town and I know the dangers that lurk.

At one point when I was shooting the 10mph vids, I thought this gentlemen was going to call the police thinking I was casing cars or something
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Portland is the only area in Oregon where freeway splitting would be excellent. Since the legislature here keeps changing/amending delaying this, I posted on the PNW forum that what they should consider is getting splitting at *intersections* OK first.

Even in smaller metro areas in this state, traffic lights are often a nightmare of backed up cars. Being able to split to lights would be a godsend here (esp since it has been 90+ here lately).

TL;DR--Get splitting at traffic lights first, then freeways.
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I sat in on the first meeting of the Governors Committee on this(by phone). I know there is some objections to what you guys want and it is much less than we are so lucky to have.

I would suggest picking out a small amount of time where the vid's would show what you want. 5 - 10 minutes max.

Some thing I suggest you avoid showing.

1. Splitting next to big trucks - since they were opposed to this.
2. Any over the solid white line or shoulder riding.
3. Even a bit over the speeds you want is probably OK given our law as long as it is safe.

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Luckily, because I was doing laps up and down the street, I knew who was getting in or out of their car. You definitely wouldn't see me doing that otherwise as I ride bicycles through town and I know the dangers that lurk.

At one point when I was shooting the 10mph vids, I thought this gentlemen was going to call the police thinking I was casing cars or something

I guess what I clumsily failed to say is that the video shows a dangerous road position in a situation that should be very benign. I picture it as providing ammunition for objectors who could derail any constructive conversation by driving home the danger presented in the video.
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I guess what I clumsily failed to say is that the video shows a dangerous road position in a situation that should be very benign. I picture it as providing ammunition for objectors who could derail any constructive conversation by driving home the danger presented in the video.
And I would reply that it was much easier to use parked cars for delta reference as opposed to trying to create a visual aid on the Bay Bridge or 880 corridor with cars on both sides.

This video was not intended to be about lane position, but a reference point of what each delta could look like when you were actually utilizing lane splitting on a roadway which shares a relative distance to vehicles on BOTH sides. So in essence, the parked vehicles were a controlled entity and I did abort several runs because of persons parking, entering/exiting their vehicles.

But if there were an objector, it then makes for a great opportunity to discuss the topic of sharing the road
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And I would reply that it was much easier to use parked cars for delta reference as opposed to trying to create a visual aid on the Bay Bridge or 880 corridor with cars on both sides.


It was scary enough to watch knowing it was basically staged (even "knowing" the doors wouldn't open -- it was scary to watch).

But, yea, what else could you safely do.
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Many thanks to you all for the videos, and special thanks to budman for the work you're already doing with Oregon, and for rallying folks on this forum.

The guy putting our video together here said your videos will work great for our video. We'll be sure to give credit to folks who contributed.

We've got a tough fight ahead of us up here but we're willing to work for it.

THANK YOU again for your help, we appreciate it! We'll keep you updated on our progress, too.
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