xsr900 issue - 1st world problems - BARF

GPzPop · 10-15-2020, 05:05 PM

Hi BARF knowledge center

I have semi trivial issue on my 2016 xsr900 which is same motor / platform as fz / fj / mt 900.

bike is long since out of warranty, and has around 40k miles

gear position indicator on dashboard shows the numerals 1 thru 6 as visible when the bike is cold

when the motor gets up to temperature, the gear position numbers 2 and 4 become intermittent, then fail to light up.

numerals 1-_-3-_-5 & 6 seem to be ok when hot.

I am assuming the sending switch gets hot then has an internal discontinuity.

I cant seem to find a part number for the switch on the shift drum that is sending the info to the dash.

I searched thru bike bandit parts fiches, as well as any posts on model specific moto b.boards, such as FZ09.org

anyone else on similar model bike have this issue?
any help getting the part number for the switch?

thanks in advance

Lucytriple · 10-15-2020, 06:07 PM

I bet it's the neutral switch reporting all the gears. Look at all those contacts! Maybe they have some corrosion to clean. 1RC-82540-00-00

https://cdn.partzilla.com/MTE/po/9/M...3-951d8451.jpg

motomania2007 · 10-15-2020, 06:16 PM

This is a well known issue with the CP3 engine.

The sensor is located on the top of the crankcase, just aft of the cylinders. Supposedly, you can clean it but generally if it fails, it needs to be replaced.

Neutral switch assy #10
https://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/a/...4/electrical-2

My FZ09 does the same thing in 6th and sometimes in 5th gear. I have not replaced it yet.

GPzPop · 10-15-2020, 06:33 PM

Lucy and George, thank you! You both are the best!
--Simon

GPzPop · 11-08-2020, 06:10 PM

fyi y'all, the switch in question is located just above the front sprocket , the plug connections are under the tank where tiny racoon fingers would be more useful than my fat sausage fingers in attempting to unplug and reattach the new switch's connections

in the pic I am pointing at the switch with my allen wrench

wierd how iphones rotate pics, part is actually directly above the sprocket

Lucytriple · 11-08-2020, 08:14 PM

Success?

GPzPop · 11-08-2020, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucytriple

Success?

Success, although just on the stand, all gear numbers light up.

I still need to take it out and run it enough to get up to temp, and see if the issue is truly fixed.

Monday, most likely.

--S

Darkness! · 11-09-2020, 07:55 AM

Glad this worked for you OP. But. In future, and this is for everybody, especially with sensors, it's a really good idea to at least do some basic electrical checks before shooting the parts cannon at any kind of motorized vehicle.

If for no other reason, at least to verify that what the interwebs gurus said is the problem, actually IS the problem and that there isn't any other contributing factors like green crusties (corrosion) that can possibly just be cleaned with contact cleaner and a mini file or terminal cleaner set.

Might save you some money and time. YMMV.

Edit: Or you could just run it up to temp (cooling fan cycles on , then off) in your driveway?

GPzPop · 11-09-2020, 10:22 AM

in my case, parted worked ok at start up -cold, but had failure at hot, operating temperatures. leading me to believe part went bad with heat related non- continuity
we will see if I am correct following a test run later today

Slow Goat · 11-09-2020, 09:12 PM

Well.....?

GPzPop · 11-23-2020, 01:14 PM

Ticket closed (fixt)

10-15-2020, 06:07 PM	#2
Lucytriple Wrrrench Contributor + + Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: SF Motorcycles: SV1000, Braap Name: Lucy	I bet it's the neutral switch reporting all the gears. Look at all those contacts! Maybe they have some corrosion to clean. 1RC-82540-00-00 https://cdn.partzilla.com/MTE/po/9/M...3-951d8451.jpg __________________ Chronic fixer. Message me if you'd like me to fix something of yours

10-15-2020, 06:16 PM	#3
motomania2007 TC/MSF/CMSP/ Instructor Join Date: May 2008 Location: Merced, CA Motorcycles: BMW R1200R, FZ09, FZR400, CR250R Name: George	This is a well known issue with the CP3 engine. The sensor is located on the top of the crankcase, just aft of the cylinders. Supposedly, you can clean it but generally if it fails, it needs to be replaced. Neutral switch assy #10 https://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/a/...4/electrical-2 My FZ09 does the same thing in 6th and sometimes in 5th gear. I have not replaced it yet. __________________ If you are not having fun riding a motorcycle, you are doing it wrong. The best performance upgrade is upgrading the operating system of the operator. It is cheap, easy, fast, safe and works on every bike you will ever ride. I am also a Patent Attorney so if I can help you with any IP matters, please just ask.

10-15-2020, 06:33 PM	#4
GPzPop Ask me about my B-1-D AMA #3295113 Contributor ++ 2% Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: L i b m o Motorcycles: zzr & xsr Name: Simon	Lucy and George, thank you! You both are the best! --Simon __________________ Rust is my thread locking agent * 1 Thessalonians 5:8 "But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet."

11-08-2020, 06:10 PM	#5
GPzPop Ask me about my B-1-D AMA #3295113 Contributor ++ 2% Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: L i b m o Motorcycles: zzr & xsr Name: Simon	fyi y'all, the switch in question is located just above the front sprocket , the plug connections are under the tank where tiny racoon fingers would be more useful than my fat sausage fingers in attempting to unplug and reattach the new switch's connections in the pic I am pointing at the switch with my allen wrench wierd how iphones rotate pics, part is actually directly above the sprocket Attached Thumbnails __________________ Rust is my thread locking agent * 1 Thessalonians 5:8 "But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet." Last edited by GPzPop; 11-08-2020 at 06:11 PM..

11-08-2020, 08:14 PM	#6
Lucytriple Wrrrench Contributor + + Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: SF Motorcycles: SV1000, Braap Name: Lucy	Success? __________________ Chronic fixer. Message me if you'd like me to fix something of yours

10-15-2020, 05:05 PM	#1
GPzPop Ask me about my B-1-D AMA #3295113 Contributor ++ 2% Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: L i b m o Motorcycles: zzr & xsr Name: Simon	xsr900 issue - 1st world problems Hi BARF knowledge center I have semi trivial issue on my 2016 xsr900 which is same motor / platform as fz / fj / mt 900. bike is long since out of warranty, and has around 40k miles gear position indicator on dashboard shows the numerals 1 thru 6 as visible when the bike is cold when the motor gets up to temperature, the gear position numbers 2 and 4 become intermittent, then fail to light up. numerals 1-_-3-_-5 & 6 seem to be ok when hot. I am assuming the sending switch gets hot then has an internal discontinuity. I cant seem to find a part number for the switch on the shift drum that is sending the info to the dash. I searched thru bike bandit parts fiches, as well as any posts on model specific moto b.boards, such as FZ09.org anyone else on similar model bike have this issue? any help getting the part number for the switch? thanks in advance __________________ Rust is my thread locking agent * 1 Thessalonians 5:8 "But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet."

11-09-2020, 07:55 AM	#8
Darkness! Where's the kick starter? Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: El Cerrito Motorcycles: Triumph Street Triple R, BMW F800GT, Ducati ST2 Name: Amit	Glad this worked for you OP. But. In future, and this is for everybody, especially with sensors, it's a *really* good idea to at least do some basic electrical checks before shooting the parts cannon at any kind of motorized vehicle. If for no other reason, at least to verify that what the interwebs gurus said is the problem, actually IS the problem and that there isn't any other contributing factors like green crusties (corrosion) that can possibly just be cleaned with contact cleaner and a mini file or terminal cleaner set. Might save you some money and time. YMMV. Edit: Or you could just run it up to temp (cooling fan cycles on , then off) in your driveway? __________________ Awmeat has Fallen...Now there is only...Darkness! It may be that your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others. Last edited by Darkness!; 11-09-2020 at 07:59 AM.. Reason: fergawt sumpin

11-09-2020, 10:22 AM	#9
GPzPop Ask me about my B-1-D AMA #3295113 Contributor ++ 2% Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: L i b m o Motorcycles: zzr & xsr Name: Simon	in my case, parted worked ok at start up -cold, but had failure at hot, operating temperatures. leading me to believe part went bad with heat related non- continuity we will see if I am correct following a test run later today __________________ Rust is my thread locking agent * 1 Thessalonians 5:8 "But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet."

11-09-2020, 09:12 PM	#10
Slow Goat Fun Junkie Join Date: May 2017 Location: Pleasant Hill Motorcycles: Make me feel better about life... Name: Bob	Well.....? __________________ You can’t facilitate luck if you don’t take the chance.

11-23-2020, 01:14 PM	#11
GPzPop Ask me about my B-1-D AMA #3295113 Contributor ++ 2% Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: L i b m o Motorcycles: zzr & xsr Name: Simon	Ticket closed (fixt) __________________ Rust is my thread locking agent * 1 Thessalonians 5:8 "But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet."

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