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Old 06-20-2021, 10:13 AM   #1
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OTC hearing aids, who has tried them and any recommendations?

Ok, looking at getting some OTC hearing aids and trying to separate the good from the bad.
I have gone to a audiologist(s) and other than sorting out if you have a medical reason for hearing loss I feel the rest of it is just a scam.
You can take a hearing test on line (or from a app) that will show the same results.
It only costs around $50 in parts to make hearing aids so I say FU to the current hearing aid system that claims they are "medical devices" that need to be prescribed at exorbitant prices . No wonder most insurance companies don't want to cover them.
Congress passed a over-the-counter hearing aid act in 2017 but not sure what is out there as most reviews are adds for their own product which makes them as hard to trust as the current hearing aid industry.
I have had tinnitus in both ears for years and conversations are getting hard to understand and would like to do something about it.
I have earbuds that almost do what I want ( take a hearing test and then adapt the EQ and volume to meet my personal needs and have some manual ability to tweak to my liking). My ear buds can take calls, pair with TV and sound great listening to music. I would hate to give any of that up.
Any success stories out there?
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Interested in replies as years of highpower rifle competitions and now riding have left me hard of hearing.
Tired of closed captioning on the tv and convos that sound like whispers.

And, yeah, the hearing aid industry is a ripoff.
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Old 06-20-2021, 06:53 PM   #4
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Tired of closed captioning on the tv and convos that sound like whispers.
Not saying I'm immune or my hearing is perfect, but there's something about modern media that exacerbates the dialogue / volume ratio.

The music and explosions are over the top, the dialogue is all muddled.

But not EVERYTHING.

I have DVDs where this isn't a problem, so, it's not "just me" as far as I can tell.

That said, I pretty much watch everything close caption now more so to not miss things.

I even have the center channel on the TV boosted.
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You can take a hearing test on line (or from a app) that will show the same results.
And those I just checked out ask for my name, email and such before the test can start.

I wonder why . . . .

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My grandpa bought a small sound amplifier about the size of a key FOB and used it with wired earbuds - would clip to his shirt pocket. I've used it to eves drop on people's conversations and it worked well for that purpose.

and there is this...
https://www.amazon.com/Say-What-Trum.../dp/B08FZRRV6V
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An OTC hearing aid will amplify all sound. As we age, our hearing degrades differently in the frequency spectrum. The most common hearing loss is in the higher frequencies. An audiologist will determine what frequencies need to be amplified and tune the hearing aids.
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An OTC hearing aid will amplify all sound. As we age, our hearing degrades differently in the frequency spectrum. The most common hearing loss is in the higher frequencies. An audiologist will determine what frequencies need to be amplified and tune the hearing aids.
Not so fast- it used to be that way, but in the last year or three the OTC hearing amplifiers are more complex and like prescription level Hearing Aids. Costco has a line or three they sell OTC and all of them are dialed in to support your test result deficiencies. Its just what it seems- they look at your testing chart and see what frequencies are deficient and boost those segments.

This new stuff, available elsewhere as well, is adjusted via Bluetooth. For some,it takes a lot of getting used to, so you can dial in the segments yourself from your phone, create various profiles (party, conversation, movie- that kind of thing)- while a pain to punch them up as needed, its remarkable how well they work for 1/4 the dough.

Several vendors and a couple dominant players who are long know aid makers- watch for the field to keep growing and prices to keep dropping.
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I am not surprised that tech has improved the hearing aids. I'll have to look into them.
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Not so fast- it used to be that way, but in the last year or three the OTC hearing amplifiers are more complex and like prescription level Hearing Aids. Costco has a line or three they sell OTC and all of them are dialed in to support your test result deficiencies. Its just what it seems- they look at your testing chart and see what frequencies are deficient and boost those segments.

This new stuff, available elsewhere as well, is adjusted via Bluetooth. For some,it takes a lot of getting used to, so you can dial in the segments yourself from your phone, create various profiles (party, conversation, movie- that kind of thing)- while a pain to punch them up as needed, its remarkable how well they work for 1/4 the dough.
That's my understanding as well. That primary benefit of an actual "hearing aid" is the select amplification it can do (rather than "all of it") and that some of the modern devices are user programmable via a phone app. Just need to get the proper profile from a hearing test to target the actual deficiencies on the spectrum.

One potential issue (perhaps resolved with the OTC legislation) is that lots of the tests on phones and such aren't "FDA approved", the phone is not an "FDA" device. That apps like this are "for entertainment only" or whatever.

But you'd think it would be straightforward for an app to test your hearing and suggest a profile for the hearing aid with out you having to touch as much as a slider.
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I've had my hearing tested many times and I've always wondered how accurate could the test be when they hand you those chintzy toy headphones to slap on your ears.
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I didn't know Costco now has OTC units, will have to check them out.
The new Bose hearing aids look promising but doesn't look like it is available yet in California:
https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/...ring-aids.html
I have tried the NewHeara IQ Buds Max , I didn't have much luck with voice/world amplification.
As earbuds they aren't bad but not as good as my Jabra Elite 75 . The Jabra has you do a hearing test to help set them up for great sound listening to music and helpful for making phone calls thru them.
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Here is some info on the Jabra 75 earbuds:
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That's my understanding as well. That primary benefit of an actual "hearing aid" is the select amplification it can do (rather than "all of it") and that some of the modern devices are user programmable via a phone app. Just need to get the proper profile from a hearing test to target the actual deficiencies on the spectrum.

One potential issue (perhaps resolved with the OTC legislation) is that lots of the tests on phones and such aren't "FDA approved", the phone is not an "FDA" device. That apps like this are "for entertainment only" or whatever.

But you'd think it would be straightforward for an app to test your hearing and suggest a profile for the hearing aid with out you having to touch as much as a slider.
Yeah, they wordsmith around it;
- "Hearing Aid" is the real deal, need an audiologist and prescription

- "Digital Hearing Amplifier" are the newer non-script generation ones but they/you still will need a real test to they can dial in the freqs you can't hear well

Protip- try to find some organic cause with your Doc, submit the expense to insurance in that frame, not simply "hearing aid for hearing loss" and you can get better (but not all) coverage. Vestibular schwannoma, I wouldn't wish on anyone, but does work as its a tumor causing tinnitus/hearing loss, not tinnitus or loss alone. Make sense?
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