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Old 03-29-2020, 03:22 PM   #46
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Striker guns (P-10 series)
Da/Sa guns (CZ75, Shadow and variations, P07&9)
SA only guns (CZ75 Sa, Tactical Sports, Chechmate)

Any of the metal hammers guns are easily converted to SA only with an SA trigger, or can just be carried Cocked and Locked like a 1911 without changing anything.
Home defense I'd go with striker fire and no manual safety UNLESS there's a lot of trigger time to get used to disengaging the safety or a da/sa trigger.

The CZ p-10 is not on the roster so that means finding it used locally and paying a premium.

I have a CZ tactical sport, great gun but big. Mainly for competition out of the box.

Single Action like 1911s are phenomenal with great weight balance BUT that means getting used to the thumb safety.

If you're going to keep a mag loaded and then rack it in the heat of the moment, a 1911 would be great but only 8rd or 10rds with a longer magazine in 45 or 10rds in 9mm. 9mm 1911s feel like cheating with shooting, recoil is a joke. I supposed a CZ or Sig would work being single action after racking it.

Despite being small I really like my s&w shield in 9mm. I got the non cali version so no mag disconnect or manual safety. Only 7-8rds though.
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Old 03-29-2020, 05:01 PM   #47
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Plus 1 on the CZ Tactical Sport. I haven't decided if I like this or my Springfield 1911 Loaded in 9mm best. Both are extremely easy to shoot well. The CZ is very heavy as Dubs stated.
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Old 03-30-2020, 04:21 AM   #48
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Personally, I don’t understand tha fascination with striker guns and “home defense”.

I don’t find a DA pull or a safety some kind of difficult or challenging thing to overcome, lol.

It’s what al semi autos were before striker guns even existed.

I owned all the above mentioned actions and have zero problems using any of them for any reason.
If the gun is going to be stored or kept with empty chamber, then it matter even less.

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Old 03-30-2020, 06:40 AM   #49
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Do you not wear your seatbelt, thinking you'll have time to put it on when you start to crash?

I get it. Like I said, if I were carrying (I lol every time I write that because even I know how impossible that permit is to get here), I’d want to have it ready to shoot with the least amount of movements required if I needed to quick draw. But unless an intruder is already gotten all the way upstairs and is already in the room while we sleep, I should have the time I need to spend half a second racking a slide. I imagine it’ll take a few seconds to get it out of the safe, so that’s the real speed bump here. No kids in the house, so I suppose I could just leave it on my nightstand at night.
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What is the general consensus here? Do you guys keep all yours with one in the chamber?
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:55 AM   #51
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What is the general consensus here? Do you guys keep all yours with one in the chamber?
I personally don't keep one in the chamber for my home defense firearm. There are a few layers of defense an intruder needs to get through before my family is in physical danger. Like you said, the 2 seconds required to get the firearm and rack the slide will have been performed by me prior to needing to employ the firearm defensively.

Of course, self defense outside the house would be different, but for home defense that is my mindset.
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Old 03-30-2020, 10:43 AM   #52
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What is the general consensus here? Do you guys keep all yours with one in the chamber?
I have two types of guns: self defense guns and competition guns.

The competition guns and magazines are NEVER loaded (until on range or at match), the magazines are not loaded ever at home, and the ammo is stored separate.
The self defense guns (3 Glocks) are ALWAYS loaded and, this is important, ALWAYS holstered. By loaded I mean “hot” with one in the chamber.

Loading, unloading, unholstering, holstering, and general finger-banging of guns is where negligent discharges occur. Playing with guns with loaded magazines laying around is dumb. I promise, in a moment of overconfidence and or distraction, one of those magazines is going to find its way into that gun.

So, if you have just one gun, get practice magazines and when dry firing or fucking with it, made damn sure you are careful and always be sober and respect the 4 safety rules. Put the loaded mags in another room while you dryfire and/or clean, and when you reload it, PUT IT in a holster. Loaded guns go in holsters.

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What is the general consensus here? Do you guys keep all yours with one in the chamber?
All my pistols are kept loaded with one in the pipe. Combat long guns are kept with loaded magazine with a clear chamber. The couple bolt action rifles I have are kept empty.

What are you willing to spend on the gun?
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What is the general consensus here? Do you guys keep all yours with one in the chamber?
Yes. Anything less for a defensive firearm is dumb.

At home, carrying or anywhere else.
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What is the general consensus here? Do you guys keep all yours with one in the chamber?
Yes, quicker to react to a threat.
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Yes. Anything less for a defensive firearm is dumb.

At home, carrying or anywhere else.
Agreed except for shotgun (Rem 870), kept "cruiser ready," just grab and pump. The safety is not inherently ergonomic and intuitive like other firearms and I don't want to miss it.
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All of them, no. The ones I may use in a pinch yes. Build a habit and stick with it. I used to always keep them with loaded mags and an empty chamber if the weapon was not on me and if it was on me then I would have one in the chamber. Circumstances changed so now even when not on me my ED stuff stays loaded but it's in a more secure safe than before too. In a stress situation it is not unheard of that people attempt to employ a weapon only to find it has an empty chamber.
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