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Old 12-28-2020, 12:48 AM   #16
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When I'm riding a durtbike doing durtbike things I wear:
- HJC Dirtbike Helmet
- Headsock
- Goggles with a quick strap
- Racer Rally Gloves (I use this when I Adventure ride offroad too)
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- The spandexy underpants
- Leatt Shin/knee pad (they're worn under the pants, they don't rotate in a crash but the pants easily gets holes in it unfortunately)
- Leatt Elbow pads (I really don't like to wear them they're so uncomfortable and they start riding down my arm, I'd really like to try on of those jackets with all the armor on it)
- Fox Comp5 full length dirtbike boots
- Chest Protector


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Old 12-28-2020, 09:22 AM   #17
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Look at the starting line of any professional supercross race. Its pretty telling. None of them are wearing compression suits, very few if any elbow pads. Some might wear an under jersey chest protector... and that's for roost not crashes. Less than 1/2 neck braces. Most all are wearing knee braces.

If a Pro who's livelyhood depends on staying healthy doesn't wear one, there might not be a lot of value in it.
The starting line of any professional off-road race (enduro, desert, hare scrambles, etc) looks a little different than a SX race. You'll see more protection.
Since I ride more off-road than tracks I wear a chest protector. I punched a hole in one once with a pointy rock. A few friends of mine did the same, one with a manzanita branch and one with a handlebar. I've also taken a lot of hits that have made me glad that I had it on. That's all I needed to see. I'm also always riding right behind Eric, busting butt to not miss any slim chance to pass him. I eat a lot of rocks and trail junk in the process so that chest protector comes in handy

I also wear the regular 2-strap velcro knee and elbow protection. I have 2 surgically repaired (torn ACL) knees and wore custom cTi knee braces for years but I just quit wearing them for numerous reasons and am more than happy with the protection I've gotten from the fairly inexpensive Fox protection I wear now.
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Old 12-28-2020, 09:50 AM   #18
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Thanks for the input WC.
I don't plan to race SC ...lol
In my younger years Trail riding it was more about getting wacked by a tree branch or falling off at a relative low speed.
I just remembered what a difference it made when I started wearing the flack jacket ( at least I think thats what is was called.)
No more getting the wind knocked out of me when I fell and tree branches could largely be ignored.
We mainly rode old logging roads, trails and river bars and had a ton of fun.
The videos I see online seem to be mainly how fast they can go or ludicrous difficult obstacles.
I don't mind a challenge now and then or pick up the pace on fire road if ground needs to be covered but my objective is to have fun and take in the scenery as well.
Just want to do it with some sense of self preservation....
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Old 12-28-2020, 10:50 AM   #19
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The thing I dont like about armored jackets is the padding can move around in a crash. The body suit things seem to stay situated better IMHO.

I had a crash on the Knoxville Berryessa ride (leftcoastbias got it on video https://www.bayarearidersforum.com/f...postcount=2142 ) wearing a decent quality jacket with armor. Cracked rib, bruised up elbow and jacket sleeve moved on impact and ended up with a tear in the jacket and my arm. Similar crashes with the leatt body armor thingy have just resulted in cracked ribs and smaller bruises but no precious red stuff leaking out! Currently healing from my latest cracked rib. Stalled on obsticle and fell backwards into some rocks. Protection is great but not crashing is better!

Hard to see in this screenshot but hopefully you can see the hole in my jacket where the sleeve rotated and tore on rocks. I did land pretty hard on my left side. Ymmv. Not sure how I put the black line on there. Techno savvy I am not!
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:45 AM   #20
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Yep , I agree with you on how the armor can move around in a jacket or ADV pants.
It can happen even when you have good gear, I slid down the track face first and the accordion leather just above the knee guards in my race suit allowed the knee protection to move down slightly allowing the pavement to grind a nice hole in my knee...you just cant protect your self from every scenario.
That is why I was checking in here to see what the dirty Barfer's use.
Elbow protection is not something I remember from my early dirt days, how much importance would you give it for trail riding?
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:51 AM   #21
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The thing I dont like about armored jackets is the padding can move around in a crash.
That is my single biggest complaint about textile gear, lots of jackets have a snap or velcro strap on the forearm to cinch the jacket tighter, but I've always felt there needed to be one at the top of the elbow armor, at the bicep, as well, external armor straps, essentially. Same with the knee armor, cinch straps at the top and bottom of the armor. Anyway, carry on, I'm paying attention to this thread.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:39 PM   #22
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I think it’s important (elbow protection) but like CJ says you probably won’t find solid consensus. I’ve bruised my elbows several times. Often from them smashing into my ribs. This is from the same crash above. My most recent crash with the leatt protector which includes elbow armor also bruised but not near as bad. I miss that pink bathroom with the tiled ceiling in my old house!

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I go for the more is more approach for off-road riding. Too many hazards that can get you sometimes, even if you're "taking it easy". A low speed fall onto rocks, jab your elbow into your ribs, bounce off a tree, tumble down a hillside.

Yeah it's a lot of $$$ but it lasts a long time and if it helps prevent or reduce the severity of an injury it's worth it to me.

Really good boots are a must. Really easy to injure your feet/ankles even without crashing. The "best" motocross boots may be too stiff and cumbersome, you want the mid to high end off-road focused version.

I do wear knee braces. I've found the comfort much improved since I started using these, holds them in place all day long:
https://www.leatt.com/us/shop/moto/p...ted-color=5440

The armor I have is an earlier version of this:
https://www.leatt.com/us/shop/mtb/pr...ted-color=5440

Also I wear a neck brace that is compatible with the armor.

At the time that was the most protective armor I could find, especially the wrap around rib armor. I like this style as I can wear my preferred base layer underneath. I have some hard shell elbow guards that slip on like a sleeve, I don't like to have straps squeezing my forearms. To keep them from sliding down I install snaps to attach em to the shoulder pads.
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Old 12-28-2020, 02:23 PM   #24
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Oh yeah I almost forgot HIP ARMOR. I don't know what it is but when I have a bad spill the hip is the one that gets hit. I had a really bad crash in Baja at 40mph and landed on my hip and it sucked. After that all my gear has better hip armor now. It's pointy and hurts if you fall on it, I guess the same can be said for the tail bone. But if I don't have some kind of hip armor on my pants I wear a Klim (yup Merlin bought some name brand expensive stuff) armored underwear. It has padding on the hips, thigh and tail bone. If I don't have at least hip armor or beefier hip armor (a lot of pants come with hip armor or a pocket to put one in) I wear this underneath it. It's like an armored pair of cycling shorts.

This is a newer model of what I got now
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...4aAvb4EALw_wcB

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Old 12-28-2020, 03:32 PM   #25
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If I were being payed large sums of money to go faster, I would probably wear about 10lbs less protective gear, as the gear makes me slower by limiting my movement just a bit (and the weight, and the over heating).

But nobody pays me a thing, and I still need to go to work, etc, so I wear it ALL.

I fall down a lot because I push my limits every time [that's my story and i'm sticking with it], and I think it's great to fall down and be able to get right back up (most of the time).

The only new thing I'll add here: I'm a fan of the Leatt dual axis knee guards, because they use snap for on and off instead of the velcro, which in my experience loses effectiveness after several on-off's.

I could also show you pictures of lots of colorful body parts, even with armor!
Also a really gruesome pic of my buddy whose flack jacket elbow protection rolled away after initial impact, and left a giant, deep, bloody hole in his elbow. Pretty gross. Woulda been worse without it.

Wear what your comfortable with, tons of great choices out there.
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