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Joan MIR 9 31.03%
Fabio QUARTARARO 3 10.34%
Maverick VIÑALES 0 0%
Franco MORBIDELLI 4 13.79%
Andrea DOVIZIOSO 2 6.90%
Alex RINS 2 6.90%
Takaaki NAKAGAMI 2 6.90%
Pol ESPARGARO 0 0%
Jack MILLER 2 6.90%
Miguel OLIVERA 0 0%
Danillo PETRUCCI 0 0%
Brad BINDER 1 3.45%
Alex MARQUEZ 2 6.90%
Johann ZARCO 1 3.45%
Francesco BAGNAIA 0 0%
Teets RABAT 1 3.45%
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Old 11-05-2020, 02:59 PM   #31
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I nominate superb KTM all-rounder Ryan Sipes,
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What did he win on a road racer?? Flat track, dirt etc.. but pavement never heard of him doing that. Big fan of his skill.
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Old 11-05-2020, 03:22 PM   #32
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I get the decision though.

To be totally fair in punishment they'd have to prove the riders were included in the cheat.
If they can prove that the riders knew the valves were changed then they could be penalized. However, if the situation is more like Management and Engineers telling the riders; "Don't worry about revving it, everything will be fine" then I don't see how a rider can be punished.

They can punish the riders just the same, but fairness to the team riders has nothing to do with it. The fairness comes into play with other teams. I'm sure Suzuki and Ducati have an opinion about it... Regardless, Yamaha chose to bypass the MSMA regarding the sealed parts exception to the homologation... that's provided for in the regs here:

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b)Exceptions can be made for sealed parts that are solely associatedwith safety issues and which have no performance benefit, which
may be changed during the approval period with the unanimous
consent of the MSMA MotoGP Commission. Such exceptions will
be on a strictly limited basis to correct a proven problem which
may have safety implications (eg. a faulty batch of parts, with
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of the planned changes to the MSMA MotoGP Commission. In each
case, only the approved changes may be made.

If what Yamaha was saying is true, with faulty valves or whatever, the exception is clearly spelled out.


As the press release clearly says they bypassed the MSMA commission process (https://mcusercontent.com/828d05dc5f...fringement.pdf), perhaps what the stewards are saying is, "Had you followed the process we would've OK'd the change," therefore, they won't punish the riders.

It appears they simply failed (probably intentionally) to comply with the process and are being punished solely for the breach of protocol. Maybe it was better to ask forgiveness than permission (as who knows how long the exception process takes), sacrificing the constructor's points for a Yamaha rider's championship, especially while MM is sidelined.
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Old 11-05-2020, 03:42 PM   #33
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Rossi tweeted today that he took another test and came back positive. Doh !
I'm thinking that Yamaha changing their valves could be looked at as a safety issue. Not good when engines go pop and oil the track.

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Old 11-05-2020, 03:44 PM   #34
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Rossi's negative. Looks like he'll be good to go.


edit: assuming his test tomorrow is - as well.

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Old 11-05-2020, 03:58 PM   #35
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Rossi's negative. Looks like he'll be good to go.
Not so fast(like rossi) he needs another negative to do anything the first negative just lets him travel.
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Not so fast(like rossi) he needs another negative to do anything the first negative just lets him travel.
I did edit that in....
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Moto3 FP1. Looks like the rain in Spain falls mainly on the racetrack.
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Rossi passed his second covid test so it's time for Garrett to Gerl-off the bike and let Rossi ride. Kinda bummed about that.
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Gerloff was cooking before the time attack at the end of FP2 - impressive for the first time on a MGP bike. JR16 at P3 in FP2 is looking good too. Nice couple of hours for team USA.
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Very bummed, at least Gerloff was able to show a flash of what he can do. If he continues to deliver in WSB next year there will be some pressure to let him make another cameo or two.
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Great job by Gerloff. Good to see an American in MotoGP again. Hopefully we don't have to wait too long before we see a permanent American on the MotoGP grid again.
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