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Old 10-20-2020, 04:25 PM   #1
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Bay Area Honda dealers that offer test rides?

Hey Barfers,

Thinking about adding a second bike to the garage, and I'm not really willing to buy a bike without a test ride or demo first. The 2019 or later CB500X is on my list, but I can't seem to find a Honda dealer in the Bay Area that will offer a test ride. I've called four or five so far.

Incredibly, SF Moto offers test rides on all manufacturers' bikes EXCEPT Honda (so, Suzuki, Kawi, Zero).

None of the local dealers seem to participate in any sort of demo truck days with Honda either. So, anyone know a Honda dealer that offers test rides?
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Old 10-20-2020, 06:08 PM   #2
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It's rare to find any dealer that offers test rides on Japanese bikes. The dealers selling European and American motorcycles are much more likely to let you ride them.

And don't expect any demo trucks in the near future either.

I can see two options: look for a used one and take a test ride on that - or find some kind soul here on BARF with one who will let you ride their bike for a few minutes.


So let me ask you this - what do you expect to be able to learn from a test ride? I can think of four bikes that I bought new without a test ride, plus a few used ones. Because I had studied the bikes ahead of time I was not disappointed with any of them. I already knew that they were what I wanted. Are you sure you can't just buy one and enjoy it for what it is?
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Old 10-20-2020, 06:37 PM   #3
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So let me ask you this - what do you expect to be able to learn from a test ride?
I want a fully formed opinion about my investment. Right now, I am shopping for a tourer and I hope to rent candidates for a quality afternoon ride. So, perhaps more than a test ride, but something.

The "take it or leave it" attitude from the dealers is also a little difficult to tolerate. OTOH, I haven't purchased a new motorcycle from a dealer since 1983.
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Old 10-20-2020, 06:39 PM   #4
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I definitely sympathize with the op. I hate that it’s so hard to get test rides in the motorcycle world. I’ve owned a bunch of bikes and I’m not interested in buying anything I can’t try first to see how all the ideas I have in my head and all the words I’ve read in reviews match up to what it actually feels like to turn a wheel. I’ve been drooling over the RS660 for nearly two years, but even that bike I’ll wait until someone will give me a demo ride before I’ll fork over many thousands of dollars with no-take-backsies. I can’t think of anything else that costs what motorcycles cost that you can’t either try first or return if you’re not satisfied.
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Old 10-20-2020, 08:20 PM   #5
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I agree, Japanese bikes dealerships suck in that regard, i never felt welcome from that perspective.

When I was shopping for my last two bikes (both ended up being BMWs)I absolutely loved the fact that I got a better bike and got to test ride it before i buying it.

But to answer your question, when i was on the market, i was calling all and any dealerships in an acceptable to me radius and just asked what i needed, including test riding
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Old 10-20-2020, 08:29 PM   #6
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I think demos can be arranged for Goldwings. For CB500? Not so much.

However some dealers will let a serious buyer go through the purchase, with the option to rescind it a short time after if they didn't like the bike when they rode away.

Not a way to try a lot of bikes to see which you want, it but could prevent making an expensive purchase mistake.

Freemont Honda would do that a few years ago. You could ask, if you're interested.
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Old 10-20-2020, 09:20 PM   #7
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That's pretty much how we still do things. Some models we can place into demo, however right now new inventories are so low it's definitely way easier to get a test ride on a pre-owned unit.
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I thinkdemos can be arranged for Goldwings. For CB500? Not so much.

However some dealers will let a serious buyer go through the purchase, with the option to rescind it a short time after if they didn't like the bike when they rode away.

Not a way to try a lot of bikes to see which you want, it but could prevent making an expensive purchase mistake.

Freemont Honda would do that a few years ago. You could ask, if you're interested.
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Old 10-20-2020, 10:32 PM   #8
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It's even hard to find new cb500x 2019-20 just now, new shipment of 2021 bikes coming in November.

I think you could get a better deal with a 2017-2018 slightly used cb500x (slightly different look and different panel), and then you could even test-ride one.
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:29 AM   #9
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but what's the point of the demo if they are usually just a spin around the block where you're barely able to shift out from 2nd gear... Really, all you can assess is how the bike sounds... you're probably better off renting a bike from someone from a day from a ride/share app like Twisted Road or something like that...
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:44 AM   #10
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When I worked for a Kawi/Suzu dealership in the 80's we offered test rides. You had to have your motorcycle license and we did it only on bikes like the Transalp and Zephyr. We never let anyone take a ZX7 or GSXR out for a test ride. We certainly didn't let anyone ride a KX500 or RM250 around the parking lot.

We stopped doing this because people are fuckheads and they would fall over with them and then claim there was damage there before. Remember, this was before we all walked around with cameras and could video the bike and how it was before it left. Never a crash, usually just a tip over and slight scuff on the bar end. They also had to be serious and we were over 80% sure we had a sale. Still, like I said people are fuckheads and have ruined it for everyone.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:03 AM   #11
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When I used to sell bikes, a road test would be a final closing tool. Unless we had a specific demo bike, such as the Scrambler 1100 or the new Goldwing, we wouldn't offer the road test as most people were not a serious buyer.

However, if you are dead set on that particular bike, go to a dealer of your choice and explain that you are very interested, but need to ensure it is a good fit before purchase. If you already have funds in order and ready to go, or even better if you complete a finance application and recieve an approval, then the dealer will be much more willing to work with you. Go through all the paperwork leaving off your signature with the road test being the deal maker or breaker.

People should not expect to road rest every single bike though. When I used to be in sales, it was just me, my coworker, and our sales manager selling bikes. One time my coworker called in sick on a Friday, and one of his customer's comes in prepared to road test four bikes during a busy time! I was very unhappy with my coworker at that, and I think I only got the customer on one or two bikes, but needless to say, he did not make any purchases.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:10 AM   #12
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Also having demo drives on most new mikes pushes up the mileage and at some point it's no longer a new bike and less interest in purchasing it.

If a dealer has a used bike for sale there's a better chance for a demo ride.
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Also having demo drives on most new mikes pushes up the mileage and at some point it's no longer a new bike and less interest in purchasing it.

If a dealer has a used bike for sale there's a better chance for a demo ride.
Piggybacking on this, but if the used bike is on consignment there, they cannot let you ride it at all as they do not own it. The way around this is to complete your purchase, and then they can take you out on a road test. If you like it then you're already paid and ready to go. Otherwise they can reverse the purchase and give you your money back. They do that in case you crashed the bike, as they do not own it.
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Old 10-21-2020, 02:25 PM   #14
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but what's the point of the demo if they are usually just a spin around the block where you're barely able to shift out from 2nd gear... Really, all you can assess is how the bike sounds... you're probably better off renting a bike from someone from a day from a ride/share app like Twisted Road or something like that...
The Livermore dealers were able to offer decent test rides. Tri-Valley Moto (CalMoto now?), California Speed Sports, and Livermore Harley-Davidson all have great riding of all varieties close by.

California Speed Sports only ever let me ride a bike out of their dealership when they had a demo truck - Aprilia and Moto Guzzi. The other two let me take bikes out on my own, and that is what actually caused me to purchase my first KTM (990 Adv). But even on the demo rides, if I was able to talk my way into being near the front I was usually able to get a good feel for how a bike behaved. Getting stuck behind a newbie rider with limited skills wasn't so great, though.
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:12 PM   #15
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Some folks I used to work with would rent bikes to test out for a day before they made a buying decision via https://www.riders-share.com You may not find the exact bike, but maybe find a prior year? Just a suggestion...
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