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Old 05-11-2021, 08:14 AM   #16
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That second day is going to be a killer.

In "normal" mode that's 6 or so hours of riding.

But with your route, it may be 10, and not lazy "easy" riding at that.

Plus it's the second day, so, just plan contingencies and be careful.
Noted, I am debating whether I want to keep the entire leg of 180 past Hume Lake Road or not. Seems like it will be scenic, but maybe busy and not much in the way of turns after Grizzly Falls. It substantially changes the mileage if I cut it out, so I might save that for another trip. I also haven't booked a place to stay on day two so I can play it by ear.
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Old 05-11-2021, 11:18 AM   #17
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Yeah, I expect some traffic but I like bagging national parks on my bike so I'll deal with it and use the time to take it easy and enjoy the views. Thanks for catching the link, I updated it with the (still very tentative) route back :-)
On 180 in Kings Canyon, once you get down to the river, that's most of the good stuff right there. I would suggest turning around a bit earlier than what your route shows. Unless you plan to do some hiking, there isn't that much worth seeing at the end of that road.

How many days for the route back? Don't try to do too much in one day if it's mostly technical riding.
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Old 05-11-2021, 02:04 PM   #18
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On 180 in Kings Canyon, once you get down to the river, that's most of the good stuff right there. I would suggest turning around a bit earlier than what your route shows. Unless you plan to do some hiking, there isn't that much worth seeing at the end of that road.

How many days for the route back? Don't try to do too much in one day if it's mostly technical riding.
Good to know, no plans to hike on this trip, I'll need my energy (and the time) to cover the miles.

Return trip time budget is from Sunday afternoon - all day Monday so I may have to remove some of the fun bits to make time. I'll plan to ride somewhat late Sunday which will be a nice chance to see how the LED Cyclops bulb I installed a while back does after dark. Gilroy to SF on 101 is always a slog but even worse with rush hour so maybe a longer day that misses rush hour ends up being a good thing?
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:16 PM   #19
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Yep, last time I did Hwy 1 through Big Sur, I swore never again. It might be OK during the week but on the weekend, it sucked.
Bro, when I lived there in the sixties, there were winter days when ONE car came by. Many of them.

My friends down there say now it's excruciating.

Last time I went down it was horrid.
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Well looks like Sherman Pass is still closed, at least according to the USFS site so Kernville and all points south it is. As I tend to do I ambition-ed up the route a bit as I planned out each day. Hotel booked in advance for day one since there's not much outside of Fresno.

Day 1 (306 miles)

Day 2 (340 miles )

Day 3 (316 miles - targeting 5pm arrival in San Diego)

The tentative way back will be shorter and a big of a slog due to time constraints, but even shitty miles on the bike are better than nothing. Hopefully I can pull of the entire route without having to bail for highway miles to make time, tbd.

There's Squaw Valley Motel just to the west of Elwood Road on 180, run by a really nice family. There's also Gena's Place up 180 to the east a few miles.

If you want to avoid the slog up the hill on 180, Millwood Road would definitely cut some of that off. It is a fantastically narrow supermoto road and can be a bit dirty. Locals do not honor the imaginary center line so be careful. One of my favorite roads in my `hood. If you want to cut more of 180 off, though, stay on Dunlap Road and hang a left onto 245, then a right onto 180. Drops you right outside the gate to the park, and 245 is a blast. Dunlap Rd was paved last year and is fantastic. It's rather popular with bikes, and everyone seems to stop at the bridge in Miramonte which is at the edge of my property. What day will you be going through there?

FYI, cheapest gas can be had at Squaw Valley Trading Post. Hang a right on 180 when you come down off Elwood and it's past the pizza place on the right. It's always at least 10 cents cheaper than the Clingan's Valero.

Have fun whichever route you end up with. I'm jealous!
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Old 05-12-2021, 10:17 PM   #21
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There's Squaw Valley Motel just to the west of Elwood Road on 180, run by a really nice family. There's also Gena's Place up 180 to the east a few miles.

If you want to avoid the slog up the hill on 180, Millwood Road would definitely cut some of that off. It is a fantastically narrow supermoto road and can be a bit dirty. Locals do not honor the imaginary center line so be careful. One of my favorite roads in my `hood. If you want to cut more of 180 off, though, stay on Dunlap Road and hang a left onto 245, then a right onto 180. Drops you right outside the gate to the park, and 245 is a blast. Dunlap Rd was paved last year and is fantastic. It's rather popular with bikes, and everyone seems to stop at the bridge in Miramonte which is at the edge of my property. What day will you be going through there?

FYI, cheapest gas can be had at Squaw Valley Trading Post. Hang a right on 180 when you come down off Elwood and it's past the pizza place on the right. It's always at least 10 cents cheaper than the Clingan's Valero.

Have fun whichever route you end up with. I'm jealous!
Awesome suggestions! I got in to the area tonight, staying at a place called St Anna's House as I didn't fund much else available when searching on the Googles. Nice location and it was pretty nice just sitting on the porch downing a few beers listening to the crickets and coyotes.

I'll definitely take your route advice, all those roads sound much more my style! I failed on cheap gas and ended up at Valero, but oh well. Today was great, but I should have taken a few more breaks given the heat as it ended up slowing me down a bit.
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Old 05-13-2021, 06:59 AM   #22
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Alright, route planned and it's gonna be a long day. Good thing is I have no plans on where to stay, so that means I have no real deadline beyond sunset. Good idea or best idea? I figure if I am wiped by the time I get near Kernville I start looking then, if I have more gas I continune on to Techapi or further to set myself up for a shorted day three to San Diego
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Alright, route planned and it's gonna be a long day. Good thing is I have no plans on where to stay, so that means I have no real deadline beyond sunset. Good idea or best idea? I figure if I am wiped by the time I get near Kernville I start looking then, if I have more gas I continune on to Techapi or further to set myself up for a shorted day three to San Diego
Can you post a link to the route so I can zoom in on it? How are you getting to
Orosi when you go back out of the park on 245?

Edit: Too bad I'm missing you by a day. Would've been nice to meet you in Miramonte, and maybe escort you into/out of the park!
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we like the Kernville Inn and Cheryl’s Diner, right next door, but bet you’ll get further than that ...

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Can you post a link to the route so I can zoom in on it? How are you getting to
Orosi when you go back out of the park on 245?
+1 ...

looks like a left off Hwy 180 coming out, onto Hume Lake/Ten Mile Rd down to Hwy 198, to me ... think I can see the jog around Lake Kaweah in the .jpg map down by Visalia?

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looks like a left off Hwy 180 coming out, onto Hume Lake/Ten Mile Rd down to Hwy 198, to me ... think I can see the jog around Lake Kaweah in the .jpg map down by Visalia?

Yeah, could be. There is soooo much goodness to be had, especially continuing south across 180 on Ten Mile (dirt) and onto more dirt and goaty little roads south to Dry Creek. That whole area is filled with good stuff. Canít wait til we have more time to enjoy it all. I can picture a camp-and-ride out of our place down there!
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Sorry for the belated response / updates, wifi has been, not great (one because I was on a farm, one because I didn't ask when I checked in and didn't have the energy to bother. What a great trip, the route advice made day two spectacular. I'm going to gather some photos, have another beer so I can properly embellish things, and I'll post up a quick report of each day with links for perusing.
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Sorry for the belated response / updates, wifi has been, not great (one because I was on a farm, one because I didn't ask when I checked in and didn't have the energy to bother. What a great trip, the route advice made day two spectacular. I'm going to gather some photos, have another beer so I can properly embellish things, and I'll post up a quick report of each day with links for perusing.

What? You were actually riding instead of posting up on BARF? Pfft...



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Looking forward to your report!
What can I say, I have an addictive personality. Related, I've been to busy with beer and beaches in San Diego to put together anything to report. I do have my route home, which is ambitious considering I'll leave Sunday mid day and need to be working by Tuesday morning.

Should be viewable here - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/3684...3e0?authuser=0

Thursday's ride was basically below except I took 180 up to Millwood, then took Millwod to Duncan Road and took that to 245, not sure if that was the ideal way, but it was great. Also the roads SFMCJohn suggested to get to Tehachapi were spectacular, all in all, this was possibly one of the better riding days I have had period. There will be pics but not tonight as I need to pack for tomorrow, once I finish this beer.

Thursday - https://www.google.com/maps/dir/St.+...3e0?authuser=0
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Alright, let's get to some sort of report. Overview, great ride, lots of great roads, the navigator only screwed up a few times. Total mileage ended up just over 1800.

Day 1 a mere 338 miles.

Decided I'd get right to the point taking Mines to Del Puerto. Started out cold in SF but it was toasty (and would remain that way) by the time I got to Patterson.




The slog to Coulterville was hot and uneventuful. Pulled up to their post office next to a nice harley with a t-shirt for a seat and a "support your local hells angel" sticker on the battery cover. It's owner was telling a somewhat disinterested local about his day before I pulled up. We chatted bikes and he told me he likes to ride at night, he was wearing a shirt with "fuck you you fucking fuck" on it, which I found amusing. It was at this point I realized the charger I'd installed was charging my phone so slowly that it ws instead draining itself. Time for a lunch break so I can charge it. As i sat down to eat some tacos I hear the guy say, I'm heading home to go get drunk... ER. And off he went.

From there it was off to Highway 49 for a warm, but largely car free ride. Excellent section of road as always.


Near Bear Valley I started noting smoke to the west and hoped it was a controlled burn, though, about 15 minutes down the road the first of probably 5 CalFire trucks went blaring by telling me it was not in fact a controlled burn. Bummer, though I assume by the lack of news it was contained before it did too much damage. Ran into a rider on an R1 (I think) who lived in the area who was out for a ride as well, when talking about the first he mentioned he'd be fine if his place burned as the insurance money would let him pull the plug and leave.

I kept following 49 and continued to enjoy the light weekday traffic. The heat was definitely a thing and I was stopping for gas and water every 80 miles or so. Stopped to take a few shots near Bass Lake and liked how this one turned out.



The roads continued to be good, things continued to be hot, but I was a little distracted by my ever dwindling power along with a work obligation that meant I needed to join a video call around 6 so I let myself get somewhat distracted which slowed my pace and appreciation of what were otherwise great backroads.

Near Trimmer Springs I pulled into a market at Oak Knoll hoping the had gas. Handful of folks sitting out front just stared as I pulled up and got my helmet and jacket off. No gas, but I grabbed some water while I was there. As I was paying one of the guys steps in behind the register and knocks some sort of rifle over (could have been a pellet gun as while it looked the business it didn't see robust enough to be a real fun) at any rate, clearly some beer had been consumed, oops he says and puts it back. Outside I drink my water and they ask where I'm from, when I tell them San Francisco the response was simply, what are you doing here? They didn't seem impressed by my San Diego plans.

A few miles down the road things are getting very scenic, so I grab a few pics before cruising onward to my stop for the night with 8% left on my phone battery and my fuel light on. Happily the place I picked is right off 180 so I only have a few miles to go to get gas, beer and pizza

Sign in the background says "Entertainment", I assume they meant the roads.




Dinner is served


The place I stayed was basically a farm, never saw the folks who run it, but I had a 1 bedroom single wide to myself. It cooled off so I sat out late on the deck listening to the crickets while having a few beers and a cigar. Didn't bother with pictures, but it was nice.

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