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Old 05-10-2005, 12:31 AM   #31
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How about replacing a dead forum.. any forum over a year old with <1000 posts would be a good candidate..

The "Random Question" forum could be converted in about 2 seconds.. okay, maybe 3 seconds. For free!

The cruiser forum is pretty dead. Who paid for that one? Why not scrap it?
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Old 05-10-2005, 12:49 AM   #32
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Old 05-10-2005, 12:54 AM   #33
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Agreed.

Here is some real truth to the matter. I've ran forums on websites since 1998. In regards to this forum: BARF is based off Vbulletin (www.vbulletin.com). This software costs less than $200 to purchase, which was already done long ago. It will cost NOTHING to create a new forum. There is no increase in bandwidth usage with a new forum, and thus no cost. As far as time is concerned, to create a new forum will take less than 120 seconds. Log into the admin control panel, add a forum, give it a name, pick it's category and add a moderators name, done. I can recreate this entire website in less than 10 minutes. There are numerous useless forums here, like Quote of the day, and as stated Random Question. As well as the 2 "sponsors" forums. All these would better serve this community if they had more purpose, and it seems that motorman (what's your real name?) has a great idea. I support it. And please no one try to tell me different about the time and cost to add a forum, I know what I am talking about.
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Old 05-10-2005, 01:10 AM   #34
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Old 05-10-2005, 03:42 AM   #35
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Ah yes..let me break out the popcorn when that section opens. Thread revival and bashing at its finest.

Here are some popular CHP threads:

* CHP are D*#cks! * CHP Officer Rodrigues sighting?? * The big bad CHP * God Damn CHP wont leave me alone!! * Reckless CHP
* CHP Squid! * 3 runners on 9 today! *Poll: Do you thinks CHP do profiling riders from forum? * Argghh ****en CHP!!! * U guys know that CHP is checking out this site? * Cops, cops, cops..on 9..front side * CHP let me down. *CHP quota time?? * Where's the CHP when you need them?

And for the local P.D.'s and Counties:

*Why dont cops wear gear? * pulled over for blue turn signals?
* Jackass cops * Gettin Tickets. How about you? * who was it that destroyed their bike today in concord while running from the cops? * Bike Got Impounded Today By ... * What is so hard about plates, signals and mirrors? * Warning! Dirty Pig on Skyline! * Morbid cops....... * Don't speed around town...got a BS ticket today (argh!) * do cop crackdown on r6 super bike? * wtf bike coppa * ATTN: Milpitas LEO's * Berkeley Cops * Lazy LEO's...our tax $$$'s hard at work! * Squid gets arrested for running on "COPS" * Blue LED's For Rear Blinkers? Ok or Not OK * F'ing Berkeley cops

And some threads that make you wonder:

105 in a 65 ......need some help

What's the $$$FINE 4 Parking in Handicap Walkway?

What's up with this? (2 points for a wheelie?!?!)

Gave a CHP the finger & got written up for 22111B

Running from the cops

Help! Got busted practicing standups



To my brothers in blue, tan or green, have fun with this. Granted there are some good threads, but if im gonna be annoyed, I should be on the clock.
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Old 05-10-2005, 06:11 AM   #36
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I never feel safe around cops. I never thought I'd feel the same way ONLINE. Hope your not a cop from Miplitas. Back to the subject, changing a dead forum sounds like your best bet. Wouldn't it be a little weird asking a cop about something illegal you might have done though?
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Old 05-10-2005, 06:40 AM   #37
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I never feel safe around cops. I never thought I'd feel the same way ONLINE. Hope your not a cop from Miplitas. Back to the subject, changing a dead forum sounds like your best bet. Wouldn't it be a little weird asking a cop about something illegal you might have done though?
I used to feel the same way. I think it was the fact that they had a gun and I didn't. Now that I have some LEO friends I hang out and vacation with, I have realized that they are just regular people. People are generally flawed, it's really a hard thing to ask anyone to be perfect. Most cops realize that.
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Old 05-10-2005, 07:10 AM   #38
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I used to feel the same way. I think it was the fact that they had a gun and I didn't. Now that I have some LEO friends I hang out and vacation with, I have realized that they are just regular people. People are generally flawed, it's really a hard thing to ask anyone to be perfect. Most cops realize that.
My girlfriend was a LEO for years and still is in LE. I can tell you from all of our friends that the vast majority of LEO's are really good people, with many of the same dreams and enjoyments as the rest of us.

But there is a difference which they live with on a daily basis that sets them apart in a similar way to nurses and doctors. While most of us see the world as a friendly and idealistic way, they have to deal with the consequences of the side effects of human nature in all of it's worst forms.

I won't get into the crime part because that's a whole other area, but in terms of consequences to actions they have to clean up the pieces after accidents and worse, they have to tell the families that their son, daughter or some other relative won't be coming home, ever.

So when you see someone driving fast through a neighborhood, they may see what was left of the little girl that was run over and dragged for 200 feet (this was the worst one for my girlfriend) and remember the absolute agony of the mother when they had to tell her.

When you see someone splitting lanes way to fast you might think that there goes an organ donar, but they see the organs and brains lying on the road and are haunted by the pain the family went through.

We talk about what should be done about these kids that get a fast bike as their first bike, but they get blamed for letting the kid go too fast even though there was nothing they could have done to prevent the kid from wadding their bike and mangling themselves.

Before anybody wants to get critical of LEO's they need to first understand why they act like they do, and in the vast majority of the cases you will quickly learn that they were doing exactly the right thing (or very close to it under the circumstances).

Like any other field, there will be the rare bad apple who may have had to scrape up one too many idiots off the road but for the most part they're good people and they are doing the best they can to keep people safe and let them have fun as long as it's within reason.
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Old 05-10-2005, 07:10 AM   #39
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The truth is another forum section takes money and time. If Steve has the time i'd like to see the following:
1. Steve gives us an idea of what it'd cost to add another forum.
2. We have a "Leo-Forum Fundraiser"
3. Once we provide the funds, Steve takes the time to provide us with the forum.
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So as has been abundantly evidenced, a new forum would cost all of $0.

That said, I still agree with holding a fundraiser. Steve has spent a lot of his own time and cash on this entire board. Not enough people are contributors to the effort.

You want a LEO forum? Be a contributor. Money Talks.
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Old 05-10-2005, 07:38 AM   #40
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I’ve always had mixed feeling about Cops.

Even when its been a few hours/days/weeks of riding with both wheels on the ground at speeds near the posted limits, I see a black and white and my heart starts pounding and I freeze up like he is out for me. Ill stay like that until he is out of sight. Even if im no where near my bike or car. I see a cop and I freeze up. It sucks.

On line though they seem pretty cool. There is something different about having them on the board here. I say give them there own forum for communication purposes, just keep out of my sight on the street. You guys freak me out.
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Old 05-10-2005, 07:58 AM   #41
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It's your guilty conscience, probably not dissimilar to the feeling most boys feel when they see their parents the next morning when they've just started whacking off and can't get it out of their mind that their parents just know what they were doing the night before.
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:13 AM   #42
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Ah yes..let me break out the popcorn when that section opens. Thread revival and bashing at its finest.

Here are some popular CHP threads:

* CHP are D*#cks! * CHP Officer Rodrigues sighting?? * The big bad CHP * God Damn CHP wont leave me alone!! * Reckless CHP
* CHP Squid! * 3 runners on 9 today! *Poll: Do you thinks CHP do profiling riders from forum? * Argghh ****en CHP!!! * U guys know that CHP is checking out this site? * Cops, cops, cops..on 9..front side * CHP let me down. *CHP quota time?? * Where's the CHP when you need them?

And for the local P.D.'s and Counties:

*Why dont cops wear gear? * pulled over for blue turn signals?
* Jackass cops * Gettin Tickets. How about you? * who was it that destroyed their bike today in concord while running from the cops? * Bike Got Impounded Today By ... * What is so hard about plates, signals and mirrors? * Warning! Dirty Pig on Skyline! * Morbid cops....... * Don't speed around town...got a BS ticket today (argh!) * do cop crackdown on r6 super bike? * wtf bike coppa * ATTN: Milpitas LEO's * Berkeley Cops * Lazy LEO's...our tax $$$'s hard at work! * Squid gets arrested for running on "COPS" * Blue LED's For Rear Blinkers? Ok or Not OK * F'ing Berkeley cops

And some threads that make you wonder:

105 in a 65 ......need some help

What's the $$$FINE 4 Parking in Handicap Walkway?

What's up with this? (2 points for a wheelie?!?!)

Gave a CHP the finger & got written up for 22111B

Running from the cops

Help! Got busted practicing standups



To my brothers in blue, tan or green, have fun with this. Granted there are some good threads, but if im gonna be annoyed, I should be on the clock.

Oh damn, what'd you do, index the whole forum?

Yah I know it sounds like all that happens is people whine and moan and complain, but a lot of us see those threads and give the standard reply "You ****ed up, now own up."


Besides which, who's to say your respective department(s) isn't willing to pay you for surf time if you spend it answering questions? Write it up as 'community relations' and get paid (just stay out of Photos, or anything with a NWS link on it...)




As for folks feeling wierd about posting a question about something potentially ticket-worthy... wouldn't you rather get the question answered here, than get to PAY to find out the answer later?
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:27 AM   #43
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I am all for a LEO forum. The local LEOs that take part on this forum have been more than helpful to the rest of the riders on this forum. And I agree, that LEO thread is way way too long.

I can, however, see how Steve being hesitant into creating an independant forum for just LEO purposes. After all, this is a motorcycling forum, and many "fun" motorcycling activities (most of which I am incapable of doing) are frawned upon by the local laws and regulations. Having a LEO section can take away the attraction for new "fun" loving riders that may want to join this board, and that can be like shooting yourself in the foot, if your ultimate goal is to create one of the biggest active "motorcycling" boards.
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:40 AM   #44
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Having a LEO section can take away the attraction for new "fun" loving riders that may want to join this board, and that can be like shooting yourself in the foot, if your ultimate goal is to create one of the biggest active "motorcycling" boards.
I see your point, but there's an easy way and a hard way for new riders to find out about the consequences of having _too much_ fun. This proposed forum would be the easy way.
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Not sure that it would be all that different from now. After all, we do have LEO's reading (and posting) in all sorts of places. Been that way for years. Someone posts up their latest exploit, and people say, "Hey buddy, you DO know that Johnny Law is reading this, right?" Uhhhhhh...

This would just set aside a section where people could ask questions and bench-race with the cops. If the stunters, street racers, bling enthusiasts etc are worried about their 'fun' getting stepped on, then they should just stay out of that section.
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