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Old 08-10-2012, 03:37 PM   #16
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This should be a sticky, I think. the more people see this and voice their opinion to their reps - the better

Done stickified this.. the thread itself was copied out of Riders Rights Forum..because not enough folks were seeing it.

you fuggers need to look there once in a while.. or at least click the banner when I put out the Action alerts..!!
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:45 PM   #17
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Done stickified this.. the thread itself was copied out of Riders Rights Forum..because not enough folks were seeing it.

you fuggers need to look there once in a while.. or at least click the banner when I put out the Action alerts..!!
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:58 PM   #18
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I'm all for getting off the dino juice, and would gladly do my part with 1/4 of a cup of the 4 gallons per tank. It wouldn't hurt anything. But ethanol is a laughable lobbying thing.

First is tons of hydrocarbons towards the growth of corn, sugarcane, beet, etc, all food items. Then more hydrocarbons to transform food into fuel, distribution, etc. And all this gets more subsidies than renewable energy; $16.8B from 2002 to 2008 for ethanol, vs $12.2B for renewables. (http://stephenleahy.files.wordpress....dies-chart.jpg) And to add more nonsense, farming equipment is exempt from ethanol laws.

Just make vehicles more efficient, fly less, stop importing avocados from Israel in the winter and that would cut a lot of the dino juice.
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Sent off one including a brief statement regarding Ducati fuel tank deformation.... muuurrrglglglglllgllglgl.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:22 PM   #21
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:34 AM   #22
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:53 AM   #23
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131,000 Btu are needed to make 1 gallon of ethanol. One gallon of ethanol has an energy value of only 77,000 Btu. It takes 70 percent more energy to produce ethanol than the energy that actually is in ethanol. Every time you make 1 gallon of ethanol, there is a net energy loss of 54,000 Btu.

Ethanol from corn costs about $1.74 per gallon to produce, compared with about 95 cents to produce a gallon of gasoline. That's why fossil fuels -- not ethanol -- are used to produce ethanol. Ethanol processors can't afford to burn ethanol to make ethanol.

Not to mention environmental damages: Corn production in the U.S. erodes soil 12x faster than the soil can be reformed. Irrigating corn depletes groundwater 25% faster than the natural recharge rate of ground water. Corn production rapidly degrades it's own environment. Corn should not be considered a renewable resource for ethanol energy production, especially when human food is being converted into ethanol.


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Old 08-13-2012, 08:57 AM   #24
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Done. Thank you.

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131,000 Btu are needed to make 1 gallon of ethanol. One gallon of ethanol has an energy value of only 77,000 Btu. It takes 70 percent more energy to produce ethanol than the energy that actually is in ethanol. Every time you make 1 gallon of ethanol, there is a net energy loss of 54,000 Btu.

Ethanol from corn costs about $1.74 per gallon to produce, compared with about 95 cents to produce a gallon of gasoline. That's why fossil fuels -- not ethanol -- are used to produce ethanol. Ethanol processors can't afford to burn ethanol to make ethanol.

Not to mention environmental damages: Corn production in the U.S. erodes soil 12x faster than the soil can be reformed. Irrigating corn depletes groundwater 25% faster than the natural recharge rate of ground water. Corn production rapidly degrades it's own environment. Corn should not be considered a renewable resource for ethanol energy production, especially when human food is being converted into ethanol.


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That is amazing info.. thanks.

Who the hell thinks this is a good idea..... beyond even the potential damage.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:27 PM   #25
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I bet all those farmers are jumping for joy with their fat government subsidies. Corn ethanol is a total joke. Perfect example of how our country is completely ass-backwards and driven by corruption.
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How would this be enforced if you can't fit that much gas in your tank at the time you refill?
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:16 PM   #27
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How would this be enforced if you can't fit that much gas in your tank at the time you refill?
Do you actually think the oil companies that pay for these ridiculous mandates give a shit?

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Old 08-14-2012, 09:22 AM   #28
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Something tells me though that if they sign it thier pockets will get bigger
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:35 AM   #29
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:39 AM   #30
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Amended, Sent.

No one is pissed that less than 2 months after the Supreme Court deciding its constitutional to dictate that we purchase health insurance, they seem to be making more demands?
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