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Old 02-17-2013, 06:11 PM   #31
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If you're asking if requiring a smog would deter motorcycle purchases, my answer is no I do not believe they would. Now if the question is whether or not smog testing has had an impact on the air quality in California, my answer is yes I believe it has.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:45 PM   #32
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My next question is: would smogging motorcycles affect the number of new purchasers? Would there be less people willing to commute by motorycle? If so, would it still be worth smogging motorcycles?
Smogging cars doesn't seem to be a driving force in people's decisions to buy motorcycles. And I doubt many people buy new cars just to avoid the inconvenience of smogging their older ones, so I don't really think it would drive people away from motorcycles, either. It would just be a minor inconvenience, like smogging cars is now.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:18 AM   #33
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Bikes pollute way more than cars. Motorcycle fuel, exhaust and emmissions systems aren't nearly as sophisticated.
However the number on the road is so small that it is not significant. If all motorcycle pollutions were on a graph the length of a football field, the last six inches would be street bikes, the remainder off road.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:25 AM   #34
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However the number on the road is so small that it is not significant. If all motorcycle pollutions were on a graph the length of a football field, the last six inches would be street bikes, the remainder off road.
Yes, the emmissions generated by motorcycles is a fraction of a percent of total vehicle emmissions. One of the reasons why red stickers for off-road bikes and not being able to convert off-road bike to street legal is ridiculous.
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Old 09-08-2013, 05:02 AM   #35
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They have been threatining this since 1975.
The auto smog shops don't want it as they don't want to buy another smog dyno for such a small piece of the pie and the liability of strapping down a bike, riding/pushing a bike, increased workmans comp claims and insurance costs because of operating/pushing a bike, having someone's tired engine blow, someone else's tire blow because it has 6 plugs in it, plus having the nightmare of doing a visual inspection. pulling body panels, lifting tanks, etc, etc.

it will be a long time before this is settled. I wouldn't get all worked up over it.
I do suggest to folks that choose to remove charcoal canisters and change exhausts that they stick them in the rafters for who knows when or for the bikes next owner. It's just smart.

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Old 09-26-2013, 06:26 AM   #36
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Myth Busters did something on the subject and their results showed bikes putting out a lot more emissions.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gree...emissions.html
They don't disclose the make and models of the vehicles in that article. I think it depends on what cars vs what bikes. If you put a Prius against a ZX14R or Harley with straight pipes then I can see that. But what about a H2 Hummer against a Ninja 250?
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They don't disclose the make and models of the vehicles in that article. I think it depends on what cars vs what bikes. If you put a Prius against a ZX14R or Harley with straight pipes then I can see that. But what about a H2 Hummer against a Ninja 250?
The ninja 250 will still put out more ppm, though much less total volume of pollutants.
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Not reading three pages of this...But Smogging bikes has been done in Utah, by just looking at them. If they were original, they pass. modified (like exhaust) and ya fail.

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i do not get "smog" if a carbureted bike can get 50+ mpg and the same bike only newer with fi can never get as much as 45 mpg. who puts out more "smog".

same make and model,
just the older one is carbureted, only electronic eng.
the newer one has fi, and a couple computers just to run.
newer bike weighs less even.


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I don't think they even put the cars on the rollers anymore or do a tailpipe sniff test in CA. Why would you think they would implement rollers for a moto?

Is there an odb2 type standard for modern motos that they could plug into?
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I don't think they even put the cars on the rollers anymore or do a tailpipe sniff test in CA. Why would you think they would implement rollers for a moto?

Is there an odb2 type standard for modern motos that they could plug into?
They do it for vehicles older than 2000 IIRC
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i do not get "smog" if a carbureted bike can get 50+ mpg and the same bike only newer with fi can never get as much as 45 mpg. who puts out more "smog".

same make and model,
just the older one is carbureted, only electronic eng.
the newer one has fi, and a couple computers just to run.
newer bike weighs less even.


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What are you asking? MPG is not necessarily related to amount of pollutants.
You can "lean burn" and save gas but your NOx goes through the roof.
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No new bills using the words "motorcycle," "test," "smog" or "emmissions" have been introduced according the search engine on the CA legislature site. The only recent change is the law that states exhaust systems on motorcycles manufactured after January 1, 2013 have to meet Federal sound regulations.

I wouldn't trust anyone at Cycle Gear on legal issues unless he or she can tell you where to find the bill, the bill # or even when the legislature is in session.
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I don't think they even put the cars on the rollers anymore or do a tailpipe sniff test in CA. Why would you think they would implement rollers for a moto?

Is there an odb2 type standard for modern motos that they could plug into?
I had my 2002 Durango smogged yesterday. It was only a visual and they plugged into the OBDII port. Took all of 5 minutes.
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