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Old 02-18-2013, 05:09 PM   #31
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Excellent OP

I was stuck in the 600cc and SBK rut for 8 road racing years before campaigning a GP 125 2-stroke. The change tremendously improved my technique over 3-years.

I recently discovered riding a low HP, lightweight (<146 lbs.) trials bike on difficult terrain to develop riding skills. This may be the most difficult but rewarding method to improve my riding skills. Reality check: After 4-decades of riding, I have terrible balance and horrible throttle/clutch control.

Unfortunately, I'm now in a phase where I may have developed a subjective opinion that street riding:
  • feels very dull and isn't too safe;
  • simply reinforces many bad habits that can have catastrophic consequences in limited traction situations; and
  • has never really provided an efficient environment for me to develop into a more capable or refined rider
As a result, I've sold all my street bikes with the exception of a plated 2-stroke dirt bike.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:06 PM   #32
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I have to agree with the general point here...and I love riding the Hawk, CB250F, NC30 or any of the 400cc or less bikes in my reach much more than I do anything larger - RC51, Brutale, or even my trusty VFR800 for just this reason - more fun to (try) to ride a slow bike fast...

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(of course, the 919 is always a hoot no matter what...sort of some of both!)
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:43 PM   #33
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I have to agree with the general point here...and I love riding the Hawk, CB250F, NC30 or any of the 400cc or less bikes in my reach much more than I do anything larger - RC51, Brutale, or even my trusty VFR800 for just this reason - more fun to (try) to ride a slow bike fast...

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(of course, the 919 is always a hoot no matter what...sort of some of both!)
Where did you ride a CB250F? Those where only sold in Japan and I've never seen one here. That's 35 horses I would seriously praise.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:48 PM   #34
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Well, Crom, most recently up 341 to VC and back

Here's a pic of her before I rode her across the bridge in the background a couple months ago.

Also, my current Hawk, really fantastic rider with Penske outback GVE+Raceteck in the forks + full TBR exhaust + wave rotor/braided lines/EBC pads. Super fun way to go *slow* quickly.

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Old 05-10-2013, 05:50 AM   #35
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Oh you lucky dog, you actually own one That thing is beyond sweet. Looks really clean in the pics too
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:54 AM   #36
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Oh you lucky dog, you actually own one That thing is beyond sweet. Looks really clean in the pics too
The Sansei Racing exhaust is the best exhaust note I've ever owned. Makes tons of sweet GP-like racket - makes the ride sound fast - and the KMH meter helps with that tom-foolery of the mind. The bike is really a ball.

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Old 05-10-2013, 09:47 PM   #37
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The Sansei Racing exhaust is the best exhaust note I've ever owned. Makes tons of sweet GP-like racket - makes the ride sound fast - and the KMH meter helps with that tom-foolery of the mind. The bike is really a ball.

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Ok I'm jealous now

If you ever want to sell that, let me know
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:29 PM   #38
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In Praise of 35 Horses

Yup. This is about the joy and excitement of 35 ponies. If you're asking yourself, "Really? Does he intend to try and convince me that 35hp is a good thing?" you'd be wrong.

Are 35 ponies too few?
all true with one caveat Ö

when bracket racing turbo hayabusaís make sure the 35 horsey bike has a 35 second dial in!
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:47 PM   #39
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I can't understand why more people don't enjoy going fast on a slow bike rather than going slow on a fast bike. Our "gang" of low weight and low HP riders have so much fun on our rides "racing" around at redline while still within legal limits (in most cases). We frequently pass cars and bigger bikes on our rides without issue and with no more than 18hp in most cases.
Why's it go to be one or the other? I enjoy going fast on a fast bike much more. I'm no pro by any means but I know how to ride my CBR bike well and am definitely not slow on it.

I do enjoy riding my 250 but I enjoy my 600RR more.
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:49 PM   #40
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:25 PM   #41
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:53 PM   #42
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I love this thread. After riding my first bike(600cc) for a year, I'm making the decision to get a DRZ as my next bike. Sure going fast is fun, but I aim to be a better rider and getting a smaller engine bike feels like it would help.....plus I want to go down stairs and goat trails
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:41 AM   #43
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Does my stock sportster that I've never gotten bored of qualify here?
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:49 PM   #44
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I have more fun riding my small hp bike fast than riding my high hp bike slow...
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Old 06-01-2013, 06:09 AM   #45
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I rode faster on my RD 250 than I ever will on my Ducati, in the hills anyway. Perhaps youth was a factor, but anyway...

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