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Old 11-21-2019, 02:21 PM   #1
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deer vs SXV... and up my sleeve!

I'm not sure how much there is to actually analyze, but just a weird observation / conclusion worth mentioning....

Five weeks ago on Friday afternoon I took my SXV5.5 out to mile marker 11 (where the road goes to one lane) on Mines Rd. At that point I turned around and headed back toward Livermore.

Around mile marker 5 (final descent into the valley) I came across a small deer grazing on the right side of the road. The chain of events over the next two seconds went something like this...

- Thinking to myself... "please don't jump in front of me"
- "oh fuck! it jumped in front of me"
- grab front brakes for split second (estimate I scrubbed 5-10mph before impact)
- for a fraction of a second my complete field of vision is brown fur.
- next a tumbling sensation (first realization that I'm crashing), followed by a sliding sensation (head first and face down)
- come to a stop and first though of impending cars coming while I'm face down in the road
- adrenaline kicks in and I jump to my feet followed by first realization that I've got a badly injured right arm
- I walk to my bike a few feet away and now on the left shoulder facing the opposite direction of travel. I reach down and turn off the engine which was still running.

In the aftermath I flag down several motorists who are able to assist in getting my bike upright and off the road and one particularly generous woman who insisted in taking me "anywhere I needed to go" (home, hospital, etc) despite my bleeding arm and probable mess it would make of the interior of her car. She dropped me off at home (Livermore) and my wife drove me to Kaiser in WC. I would spend several hours in ER having my arm reconstructed (broken elbow, broken shoulder, 6" laceration down to the bone, etc), followed by a 4-day stay in the hospital.

Okay, here's the really really odd part... my wife washed and inspected my jacket (ICON Contra). The right sleeve (side that was injured) has no marks on the outside. None, like it never touched the ground. However the inside mesh was completely torn in several locations. Very odd. Then the Ortho doc who did surgery on my arm noted a large amount of dirt and debris including what he thinks may have been deer fur INSIDE my arm!

My only explanation is that in the initial impact and tumble somehow the deer's leg/hoofs went up my sleeve and tore my arm open!

The good news is that I'm past the window for infection risk and everything seams to be healing well. And lesson learned... next time slow WAY DOWN for wildlife on side of road. Deer are stupid and VERY unpredictable animals. And worth mentioning, SXVs are tough bikes and damage was very minimal (one bar mount is bent and some cheap plastic has some road rash).

Anyway, I wanted to mention the hoof up the sleeve as it was very strange and only explanation for my injuries given the observations of my jacket condition.
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Old 11-21-2019, 02:39 PM   #2
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and huge thanks to BARF'r KPKE who fetched my SXV and got it returned home and into my back yard.

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Old 11-21-2019, 03:02 PM   #3
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What is the monster you caught on film to the left of the ramp?
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Old 11-21-2019, 03:24 PM   #4
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What is the monster you caught on film to the left of the ramp?

Ha ha... that's KPKE's infamous one-LED-eyed robo-dog!
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Old 11-21-2019, 03:46 PM   #5
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and huge thanks to BARF'r KPKE who fetched my SXV and got it returned home and into my back yard.

Well, it looks like between you and the cervidae, it came out the worse for the encounter.
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:11 PM   #6
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Well, it looks like between you and the cervidae, it came out the worse for the encounter.
Thankfully it was small in stature... or the outcome could have been reversed
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:19 PM   #7
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and of course my new titanium repair kit. Notice the white triangular area between the plate and elbow joint... this is a section of bone that is unaccounted for


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I think slowing down is the only option really.

I will slow down when I see deer or Turkey's or other large animals.. how about a steer in the road on HWY 58!! Holy shit. It was big black and bad.

A lot of deer strikes are out of nowhere and you don't even get the chance to slow.

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Old 11-21-2019, 04:49 PM   #9
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Were you wearing gloves that went over the jacket cuff, which would be strapped tight around wrist?

Every time I see animals within striking I immediately move to your 3rd chain of events, except I've been training to use both brakes and starting light to get the bike set up for an evasive maneuver.

It sounds good in my head anyway, but no acid test.
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Old 11-21-2019, 08:03 PM   #10
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Glad to hear you're healing ok. Send that lady a Christmas card.

The hoof hypothesis is very interesting.
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Old 11-22-2019, 05:22 AM   #11
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And lesson learned... next time slow WAY DOWN for wildlife on side of road.
This is the only suggestion I have.

I don't do it every time, but I consider it a riding mistake when I pass an animal without slowing first. A reminder that I should pay better attention.
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Deer are my worst nightmare! I've hit two turkeys, but at a glancing angle. Glad your ok! I try not to ride at deer thirty (twilight).
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Old 11-22-2019, 09:03 AM   #13
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Were you wearing gloves that went over the jacket cuff, which would be strapped tight around wrist?
Unfortunately, no. I was wearing skimpy little MX gloves. Gauntlet style gloves would have likely prevented some of the injury to my arm... although never in a million years would I have predicted something, let alone an animal leg, going up my sleeve during a crash.

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Glad to hear you're healing ok. Send that lady a Christmas card.
My wife contacted her a few days later and offer to have the interior of her car shampooed. She declined.


@everyone else, thanks for the well wishes. Much appreciated!
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I hit a deer at about 80 a long time ago in Scotland, on my CB750. I managed not to get injured. The deer was butchered.

Other than hoping you see them in tome to slow down there's not much you can do about deer. They has the dumb in traffic.
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Glad to hear you're OK.

Did you take the deer back too? Would make an interesting garage trophy.
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