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Old 09-20-2020, 02:43 PM   #1
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Is anyone else watching this on Apple+? Itís a bit more subdued than the previous two series (Round and Down); poor Charley Boorman hasnít done a single wheelie.

So far, through Ep 3, itís been as much or more about the logistical issues of keeping 5 EVs charged in remote Patagonia than about the actual riding. But, as they constantly remind us, theirs is a pioneering trip. And some of the scenery has been nice.
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Old 09-20-2020, 02:59 PM   #2
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I've taken to calling it "Long Extension Cord." It's little more than a Livewire commercial in installments IMO.
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A Rivian commercial too.
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Old 09-20-2020, 03:32 PM   #4
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I've taken to calling it "Long Extension Cord." It's little more than a Livewire commercial in installments IMO.
That's too bad. My understanding, there's very little Livewire left of the bike after they heavily modded it to be a adv/tourer, if someone was looking to pick up a bike like theirs it's not going to happen. I'll still watch it tho' but probably not with the same interest the others held for me and not an overly big CB fan either. I respect his riding skills but he comes off as a whiner to me.
ETA: OP, Here was a thread from some time ago when it was first announced: https://www.BayAreaRidersForum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=538526
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Old 09-20-2020, 04:54 PM   #5
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+1 on Charlie Boorman being an insufferable whiner. Also I am not giving Apple any of my money. I'll see if it is available on Netflix later. Doesn't sound like I'm missing out on anything anyway.
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Old 09-20-2020, 05:45 PM   #6
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A Rivian commercial too.
How much Rivian? Asking for a friend.
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Old 09-20-2020, 07:15 PM   #7
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I just saw the first episode, and I really liked what I saw. Can't wait for the second (probably watch it in the next couple of days).

Watching the prep and the lengths the suppliers are going through to support the ride was impressive.

I already have a better feeling for this one than what LWD turned in to.
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Tried watching the first episode. Super lame.

Watching the second one now. These guys are such douches. They went to eat and celebrate before they even put a leg over the bikes.

I don't know if I'll be able to finish this. These guys are whining when they have a team of 20 helpers figuring everything out for them.
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Wow 20 people couldn't figure out how long these POS cars can go on a charge so they ran out of it on the very first day?
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I just saw the first episode, and I really liked what I saw. Can't wait for the second (probably watch it in the next couple of days).

Watching the prep and the lengths the suppliers are going through to support the ride was impressive.

I already have a better feeling for this one than what LWD turned in to.
Considering what the first one did for BMW GS sales I don't blame them...
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I've been watching it it, but seeing them tool along at 31 mph because they're trying to hypermile is a bit boring..
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Wow 20 people couldn't figure out how long these POS cars can go on a charge so they ran out of it on the very first day?
They were caught out (at least twice) by the bikesí inability to charge in freezing weather. TBH I wouldnít have known that either...
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I'm a little perplexed by their decision to use prototype Harley Livewire conversions... The first episode showed them riding Zeros as their "introduction" to electric motorcycles, why not just use a Zero for the trip? IIRC, Zero already makes a production ADV bike.
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Is anyone else watching this on Apple+? Itís a bit more subdued than the previous two series (Round and Down); poor Charley Boorman hasnít done a single wheelie.

So far, through Ep 3, itís been as much or more about the logistical issues of keeping 5 EVs charged in remote Patagonia than about the actual riding. But, as they constantly remind us, theirs is a pioneering trip. And some of the scenery has been nice.
I did a fishing trip to Argentia in the early 90s. Stunning, primitive and pristine. I don't think Patagonia is a secret anymore, which is too bad. Some places are better if left alone.
My family lived near Tahoe City until I was 12, and the sign at the Y near Fanny Bridge said "Tahoe City, pop 200"....nowadays, I stay away, the last time I was there, it took me weeks to get over how it had been transformed into something unrecognizable.
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Wow 20 people couldn't figure out how long these POS cars can go on a charge so they ran out of it on the very first day?
The Rivians? The two they have are the very first "production" Rivians. They are basically production prototypes. Not sure what you want from them lol. They have a general idea but the extreme environment + new technology + unproven platform..

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I've been watching it it, but seeing them tool along at 31 mph because they're trying to hypermile is a bit boring..
Agreed with this. I was looking at the speedo like "whelp, this isn't exactly exciting"

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They were caught out (at least twice) by the bikes’ inability to charge in freezing weather. TBH I wouldn’t have known that either...
Yeah, the LiveWires don't have active thermal management to my knowledge. So extreme cold makes charging/range not great. I'm not sure if Energicas or Zeros would do much better.

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I'm a little perplexed by their decision to use prototype Harley Livewire conversions... The first episode showed them riding Zeros as their "introduction" to electric motorcycles, why not just use a Zero for the trip? IIRC, Zero already makes a production ADV bike.
I think Harley actually "approached" them tbh. The way they portray it in the show is sorta like "We got to test ride this prototype from Harley" and next thing you know the Harley engineers are totally reworking the motorcycle. I will say, the Livewire modifications they did does make it very cool.

Using Zero's would make more sense only because the Zeros have Level 2 Charging. Rivian built out Level 2 charging infrastructure along the route for their trucks. The Harley's can't use Level 2 so the infrastructure was pointless for them.

From what I know, later in the show they do a charge off the Rivians - but the Rivian engineers hadn't got that solved at the start.

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