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Old 08-28-2014, 05:19 PM   #1
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Innovv C3 camera testing- motorcycle dashcam

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I've been looking for a dashcam style camera for my motorcycle for a bit after seeing a few accident videos posted here and other sites. I started talking to Rock at Innovv.com a little while ago about the motorcycle/action camera that he was developing over on the dashcam forums. He decided to let me do some pre-production testing on his new C3 remote lens camera. He sent me a unit to test and see what I thought of it.


First off this camera unit and lens are pretty small and there is no plastic in either housing except for maybe the buttons on the recoding unit. Everything else is aluminum. The lens assembly is waterproof and the recording unit is not. The lens cable is 1.5 meters long.


The comes full of mounts and cords and was surprisingly heavy when it showed up. Here's a list of what comes in the box
1x Innovv C3 Camera
1x Innovv C3 Lens
1x lens mount
1x USB cable
1x AV cable
1x Dashcam cable(4m)
1x Camera bracket
1x 3M Helmet mount
1x 3M Dashcam mount
1x Bar mount
1x Head mount
1x Microphone set
1x Car charger adapter
1x User manual

Most of the mounts are useful and the 1/4-20 camera mounts are the most useful since they will let you use any camera mount that you may already have. I like using Ram mounts since they are pretty bulletproof and inexpensive. They don't come with the camera but you can find them almost anywhere.


Rear facing mount on my Tuono





I also used one of the included mounts with a plastic wedge to get the right angle for a helmet mount.


The helmet mount works well for recording dashcam style footage but if you want footage that doesn't move around all of the time with wind buffeting and bumpy roads, it's best to find a stable place to mount the camera that's not attached to your wobbly neck.


You get a choice of a 90 degree or 120 degree lens with the camera or you can buy both and swap them out for different shots. They both work great, I prefer the 90 lens for use as a dashcam and the 120 makes for good senic shots.



You have a few options on how you can power the camera.Using the internal battery you can record for about 110 minutes. with an small generic usb external power pack you can go for a few hours depends on the size of the pack or you can plug it in to the usb adapter that takes 12v to 5v and record for as long as the memory lasts in single file mode or forever in loop recording mode.
There is also a still picture mode but I haven't messed around with that function yet.
You can set up the camera to act as a automatic dashcam when it's wired to the bikes power. When you turn your bike on it will automatically start recording and stop when you turn it off. The loop recording mode will record until the memory card is full and then it will start to overwrite the oldest files first. I get about 4.7 hours of video using a 32gb card so there's not much worry about losing a file that you want to keep if something happens. Also if your running on internal battery and you run out of power the camera will save the last file before it dies so that it doesn't get corrupted.

I've been using it for the most part as a dashcam to record my daily commute and I haven't been gentle with it. The build quality seems to be very solid. It's also has a lot more uses that just a dashcam and I'll be posting those up as I test them over the next couple of weeks.
So far everything is looking very promising, solid build quality and images and for around $140 it looks like it's good deal. The production models should be ready to ship after September 10th.

I'm going to make a "how to" using the POV headset mount and remote microphone and I'm gonna mount it to a variety of firearms to get some real first person shooter video at the shooting range.
Stay tuned for updates.

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Old 08-28-2014, 07:37 PM   #2
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look forward to seeing your updates on this as I am still in the market for a cam, maybe the cons or what you don't like about it
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:35 PM   #3
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Old 09-01-2014, 07:28 AM   #4
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Is this pre-production firmware too? From the YouTube video, it looks like it's dropping frames...
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Is this pre-production firmware too? From the YouTube video, it looks like it's dropping frames...
Yes it is early firmware, I just got an email from them saying that new firmware is a day or two away.
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You can set up the camera to act as a automatic dashcam when it's wired to the bikes power. When you turn your bike on it will automatically start recording and stop when you turn it off. The loop recording mode will record until the memory card is full and then it will start to overwrite the oldest files first. I get about 4.7 hours of video using a 32gb card so there's not much worry about losing a file that you want to keep if something happens.
THIS is the best part of this camera. Now if he can develop a two camera setup with one DVR he would be golden.
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Yes it is early firmware, I just got an email from them saying that new firmware is a day or two away.
keep posting samples with the updated firmware, would be good to see how much the video quality improves (or not)...
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Tried out new firmware today and the frame rate has been corrected, much smoother now They are fine tuning the firmware for the best picture now and should have another update in a day or two.

There's a little "jello" in the video on acceleration due to my unbalanced Griso and I was trying out a longer Ram mount arm that I think is too long.

http://youtu.be/On8NOMefuqA
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Tried out new firmware today and the frame rate has been corrected, much smoother now They are fine tuning the firmware for the best picture now and should have another update in a day or two.

There's a little "jello" in the video on acceleration due to my unbalanced Griso and I was trying out a longer Ram mount arm that I think is too long.

http://youtu.be/On8NOMefuqA
Wow, that's a huge improvement from the last one!
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:01 AM   #12
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There is no software stabilization in the camera, the camera isn't trying to be a Gopro or Virb killer, it's designed as a $130-$140 dashcam that you can mount on your bike and not have to remember to turn it on or off to record your ride or commute.
It will do 1080p @30fps, 720p @60fps, time lapse video and still photos too.
You can also hook up a wired remote mic if your the v-log type of rider.
Here's a link to the videos I've shot over the last couple of weeks through a few firmware updates. Latest firmware update video is looking good.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmq...7H2xP0cc00nfsg

If anyone wants to see the video quality without the youtube compression here's a dropbox download link for a raw video file from that latest update.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8x73pg3le...00006.MOV?dl=0

I wanted a camera that I could just leave on my bike and the remote lens isn't noticeable unless you are looking for it. I really like all of the bells and whistles of the high end action cams, Virb elite, Gopro+ but after borrowing them and trying them I realized that I don't do anything with all of the extra features and didn't like having to take them on and off the bike and the helmet mounts gave me that teletubbie profile

When the production cameras are finished in a couple of weeks, I'll be mounting 1 facing forward and 1 rear on my commute bike with the recording units under the seat hooked up to bike power.

POV porn testing has been put on hold until a proper disinfectant can be found

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Just wipe the bugs off...

It's a good option for a dash cam... I like that it is small and easily hidden... one thing that would make me pause is that the recording unit is not waterproof (most likely due to the USB connection), that could pose some issues when used on a motorcycle.
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Just wipe the bugs off...

It's a good option for a dash cam... I like that it is small and easily hidden... one thing that would make me pause is that the recording unit is not waterproof (most likely due to the USB connection), that could pose some issues when used on a motorcycle.
Issue I thought about too so I'm just going to put them in a micro pelican case or a mini roll top waterproof bag or maybe just a ziplock freezer bag and a ziptie I'm not really worried about it since they are going under my seat and the recording unit is the size of a big box of tic-tacs so finding something to cover it shouldn't be to hard, even if cable reliefs have to be put in with sealing grommets.
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