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Old 04-01-2004, 05:57 PM   #1
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Angry How 9-11 Happened

How 9-11 Happened
March 31, 2004

We don't need a "commission" to find out how 9-11 happened. The truth is in the timeline:

PRESIDENT CARTER, DEMOCRAT

In 1979, President Jimmy Carter allowed the Shah of Iran to be deposed by a mob of Islamic fanatics. A few months later, Muslims stormed the U.S. Embassy in Iran and took American Embassy staff hostage.

Carter retaliated by canceling Iranian visas. He eventually ordered a disastrous and humiliating rescue attempt, crashing helicopters in the desert.

PRESIDENT REAGAN, REPUBLICAN

The day of Reagan's inauguration, the hostages were released.

In 1982, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslim extremists.

President Reagan sent U.S. Marines to Beirut.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up by Muslim extremists.

Reagan said the U.S. would not surrender, but Democrats threw a hissy fit, introducing a resolution demanding that our troops be withdrawn. Reagan caved in to Democrat caterwauling in an election year and withdrew our troops – bombing Syrian-controlled areas on the way out. Democrats complained about that, too.

In 1985, an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, was seized and a 69-year-old American was shot and thrown overboard by Muslim extremists.

Reagan ordered a heart-stopping mission to capture the hijackers after "the allies" promised them safe passage. In a daring operation, American fighter pilots captured the hijackers and turned them over to the Italians – who then released them to safe harbor in Iraq.

On April 5, 1986, a West Berlin discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen was bombed by Muslim extremists from the Libyan Embassy in East Berlin, killing an American.

Ten days later, Reagan bombed Libya, despite our dear ally France refusing the use of their airspace. Americans bombed Gadhafi's residence, killing his daughter, and dropped a bomb on the French Embassy "by mistake."

Reagan also stoked a long, bloody war between heinous regimes in Iran and Iraq. All this was while winning a final victory over Soviet totalitarianism.

PRESIDENT BUSH I, MODERATE REPUBLICAN

In December 1988, a passenger jet, Pan Am Flight 103, was bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland, by Muslim extremists.

President-elect George Bush claimed he would continue Reagan's policy of retaliating against terrorism, but did not. Without Reagan to gin her up, even Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher went wobbly, saying there would be no revenge for the bombing.

In 1990, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.

In early 1991, Bush went to war with Iraq. A majority of Democrats opposed the war, and later complained that Bush didn't "finish off the job" with Saddam.

PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRAT

In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.

Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat."

In November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces.

In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no.

On Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

On Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.

Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory.

On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day.

Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by the New York Times as "by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991."

The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 – when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Islamic fanatics.

In October 2000, our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH, REPUBLICAN

Bush came into office telling his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, he was "tired of swatting flies" – he wanted to eliminate al-Qaida.

On Sept. 11, 2001, when Bush had been in office for barely seven months, 3,000 Americans were murdered in a savage terrorist attack on U.S. soil by Muslim extremists.

Since then, Bush has won two wars against countries that harbored Muslim fanatics, captured Saddam Hussein, immobilized Osama bin Laden, destroyed al-Qaida's base, and begun to create the only functioning democracy in the Middle East other than Israel. Democrats opposed it all – except their phony support for war with Afghanistan, which they immediately complained about and said would be a Vietnam quagmire. And now they claim to be outraged that in the months before 9-11, Bush did not do everything Democrats opposed doing after 9-11.

What a surprise. Hypocrisy
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:03 PM   #2
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"On Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.

Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory."


I remember that like it was yesterday. I never understood how Bill got away with it.
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:05 PM   #3
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:17 PM   #4
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Ummm.... Maybe the liberal media wanted him to have a nice day. And not report the 'coincidence'.

After all, if the media is part of the story, as in not reporting things in an unbiased media, maybe Bill would have gotten impeached. And tossed out of office.

Then Al Gore would have become President, and run again to have another term. God help us. Al Gore as President on 9/11.

Shudder. Shudder. Shudder. Gotta wake up. This nightmare is creeping me out....
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:34 PM   #5
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Good stuff. Also keep in mind that Reagan wasn't a complete failure because he had an awesome group of advisors around him, not because he was particularly good at being President. Even his Star Wars idea came from his advisors, as he said in his 1983 speech,

"After careful consultation with my advisers, including the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I believe there is a way. Let me share with you a vision of the future which offers hope. It is that we embark on a program to counter the awesome Soviet missile threat with measures that are defensive. Let us turn to the very strengths in technology that spawned our great industrial base and that have given us the quality of life we enjoy today.

And Peter, 9/11/01 would've been just another day, just like the day before it was, had Gore been in office. Gore had no aspirations for controlling the Middle East
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Old 04-01-2004, 06:37 PM   #6
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Come on peter, the die hards don't look to history. The fact of the matter was, the moma's boy reputation of the U.S. is part of the reason those fucks think they can bomb with impunity. Say what you want about Bush II, but he surprised the shit out of the terrorists by going into Afganistan and Iraq (although Iraq should have followed Syria IMO). Believe me, Bush II is no conservative, but compared to Kerry...jesus. I can't even afford a house and I am considered one of Kerry's "undertaxed rich". Fuck him, I guess I wouldn't worry about taxes, if I landed a wife worth $800 million. The poor don't pay taxes and thanks to the nanny state (especially in CA) never will.

I have an idea, why don't we just let the UN handle everything...oh yeah because the UN forces are comprised by 85% of US assets, and I don't want some pussy fuck, surrendering French general commanding American Forces. Kinda reminds me of the League of Nations...the only thing that happened after the inception of the League...can you say WWII?

Go socialism, we could be just like compassionate Europe. After living there for nearly two years, I have no illusions regarding the failures of this economic theory. Sure most are relatively comfortable (rent an apt. and possibly own a car), but there's simply no way to get ahead aside from having "old money". The U.S. is literally the best country in the world to get ahead and build yourself up. Racism and classism is 10x worse over there, it's just the odd idealized sense that they are somehow more progressive than us. Just try being a Turk in Germany or Austria. What about the gypsies?

Probably enough of a rant...flame away (not that you populist rhetoric is going to make a difference, nor your complaints of my non-spell checked rant).

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Old 04-01-2004, 06:41 PM   #7
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So, Sharky, gonna go to Pinkey's Pizza tonight?? BARF meet there 7 to whatever-ish.

Lt. Matt Shifrin has been serving with the U.S. Military Police Corps. Here is what he says:

"There are evil people in the world that need to be killed. As harsh and cold as this may sound, it is the truth none the less. You cannot fight them in a court of law because they fail to recognize any higher secular authority. Unfortunately, you can only fight them on the battlefield, where judgments are quick and sentencing is instantaneous. That is how you defeat terrorism. ... I don't know if we were fighting terrorism directly by invading Iraq and ousting Saddam, but I do know that as long as these extremist groups are planning and expending resources by attacking soldiers in Iraq, they are less capable of attacking helpless civilians in the U.S., Israel, and other civilized nations. ... I am ... a proud American who has done his part in preserving our way of life for future generations."

Woof. Islamofascists
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Good stuff. Also keep in mind that Reagan wasn't a complete failure because he had an awesome group of advisors around him, not because he was particularly good at being President. Even his Star Wars idea came from his advisors, as he said in his 1983 speech,

"After careful consultation with my advisers, including the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I believe there is a way. Let me share with you a vision of the future which offers hope. It is that we embark on a program to counter the awesome Soviet missile threat with measures that are defensive. Let us turn to the very strengths in technology that spawned our great industrial base and that have given us the quality of life we enjoy today.

And Peter, 9/11/01 would've been just another day, just like the day before it was, had Gore been in office. Gore had no aspirations for controlling the Middle East
The Star Wars idea was pretty must a bust from a technological standpoint, but the effect that it had on the Soviets was huge. That was one (big one) of the reasons the Soviets spent themselves into oblivion. We scared the shit out of then while Reagan was in office, and guess what???? It worked, even if the Star Wars concept (as far as we know) didn't. That's why you don't have a pussy as president. to be feared is to be safe.
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The Star Wars idea was pretty must a bust from a technological standpoint, but the effect that it had on the Soviets was huge. That was one (big one) of the reasons the Soviets spent themselves into oblivion. We scared the shit out of them while Reagan was in office, and guess what???? It worked, even if the Star Wars concept (as far as we know) didn't. That's why you don't have a pussy as president. to be feared is to be safe.
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Thanks for providing us with one possible "how it happened" scenario.
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"Bush has won two wars against countries that harbored Muslim fanatics"


overstatement of the decade.
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XJ, you are an idiotic asshole.

That is all.
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I think you need to review middle east history in order to get the full picture. You're not going back far enough to understand the complexity of muslim extremists hatred towards the west. This problem is not a democrat or republican problem. You must also include the former soviet bloc nations, GB, Israel, and more.
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You're also not realizing who is currently leading the majority Shiite population in Iraq.....it's another Ayatollah who has exiled in Iran. He is one of the people feared that would rise to power in the power vacuum in Iraq. While he is not advocating violence to US troops, he certainly wants the US out now.
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XJ, you are an idiotic asshole.

That is all.
Your opinion is shared by ... you.

When the Arabs/Muslims want freedom, they come to this country and other free countries instead of at home. Why is that? Maybe because their own countries are dictatorships of one sort or another.

And there are some Muslims that want an Islamic state spreading over the whole world, encompassing every person. Those that convert to Islam are 'citizens', those that want to remain Christian, Jew, Hindu, Shinto, Buddhist, etc., are either killed in 'conquest', or brought into 'dhimmitude'.

I recommend books by Bay Yeor and visiting http://www.dhimmitude.org/archive/by..._10oct2002.htm for further information.
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