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DB Killer suggestions for Laguna Seca

Just got back from Leo's Exhaust (charged me $80) See the post later down for pics ( I love computers... I love computers... I love computers )
 
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i say every racing body, association, etc

needs to stand up together and tell the county people good-by and we are taking our millions of tax dollars your county would have gotten with us. :twofinger


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packnrat said:
i say every racing body, association, etc

needs to stand up together and tell the county people good-by and we are taking our millions of tax dollars your county would have gotten with us. :twofinger


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:laughing

This is an ongoing battle, it's not that the county hates Laguna, it's that wealthy landowners around Laguna deluge the county with lawsuits, and the restrictions are a result of the lawsuits.
 
packnrat said:
i say every racing body, association, etc

needs to stand up together and tell the county people good-by and we are taking our millions of tax dollars your county would have gotten with us. :twofinger
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:laughing <--- The powers against you would just do this.

Just put a stock exhaust on and/or a DB killer and be a good citizen. I find it hilarious that people bitch about $150 DB killer but they'll gladly lay out over a grand for nothing more than titania-carbon-noise-maker-blingy-thing.

I have a Jay Murray insert, drops the DBs from 94 to 89, almost no impact on power at all, bike runs fine with no need for remap.
 
Archimedes said:
I have a Jay Murray insert, drops the DBs from 94 to 89, almost no impact on power at all, bike runs fine with no need for remap.
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Not necessarily true, it really depends on what Jay has decided to be the most effective design for your particular application. For example, I have one of Jay's inserts, Fastline dyno showed approx 20 hp drop and would also require remapping, data doesn't lie, feel is subjective. It was definitely quiet, but the drop in power was too much. Glad it worked for you though, it's just not for me.
 
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When are they going to figure out that everyone is just redirecting the sound away from the sound booth and put another microphone on the other side of the track?
 
thedub said:
When are they going to figure out that everyone is just redirecting the sound away from the sound booth and put another microphone on the other side of the track?
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It's common knowledge. The county requires the sound booth. If the county wants it changed they will move it. The track (SCRAMP) is happy if you slow down, and direct exhaust away. They follow the county rules, they don't make them. However, there IS a roving sound check that does get used at times. In fact some providers use three pylons at the exit of T5 to slow traffic by the sound booth, and SCRAMP has no problem with that.
 
I think I am going to run a lap without it and get the sound check... and then put it on and see the difference it makes (I told Leo I would report back the difference)

btw... Leo is more than willing to work with anybody who needs a DB killer and will create one and modify it until it works for them. ( really nice guy )
 
MrLister said:
I think I am going to run a lap without it and get the sound check... and then put it on and see the difference it makes (I told Leo I would report back the difference)

btw... Leo is more than willing to work with anybody who needs a DB killer and will create one and modify it until it works for them. ( really nice guy )
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If you run an aftermarket exhaust with Keigwin, DB killer or no, You don't get a lot chances. IIRC, one. You fail the test, you get ONE chance to make it right. You might check with Lance, but this is my recollection. I won't name the providers who were kicked out of Laguna and begged their way back in with changed sound policies. Lance had ONE HUNDRED sound violations one day and Laguna told him that he was inches from being tossed from the track permanently. So don't expect ANY slack. If you show up with a loud pipe, you get one chance.
 
afm199 said:
If you run an aftermarket exhaust with Keigwin, DB killer or no, You don't get a lot chances. IIRC, one. You fail the test, you get ONE chance to make it right. You might check with Lance, but this is my recollection. I won't name the providers who were kicked out of Laguna and begged their way back in with changed sound policies. Lance had ONE HUNDRED sound violations one day and Laguna told him that he was inches from being tossed from the track permanently. So don't expect ANY slack. If you show up with a loud pipe, you get one chance.
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the whole sound thing at a race track, in my opinion, is ridiculous.

I think the golden rule is at work here "He who has the gold, makes the rules"
 
afm199 said:
If you run an aftermarket exhaust with Keigwin, DB killer or no, You don't get a lot chances. IIRC, one. You fail the test, you get ONE chance to make it right. You might check with Lance, but this is my recollection. I won't name the providers who were kicked out of Laguna and begged their way back in with changed sound policies. Lance had ONE HUNDRED sound violations one day and Laguna told him that he was inches from being tossed from the track permanently. So don't expect ANY slack. If you show up with a loud pipe, you get one chance.
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Rules at the last Keigwins day where as follows:

Stock - 3 strikes
Aftermarket w/ dB killer - 2 strikes
Aftermarket w/o dB killer and all Staff - 1 strike
Sound checks - 2 (don't count against you)

If you blew sound you would have to get a hall pass from Lance allowing you to go back out the next session. Staff working the hot pits also had a board with all the offenders, if your number was on the board they ask for your pass.

MrLister said:
the whole sound thing at a race track, in my opinion, is ridiculous."
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Not as ridiculous as there being a speed limit of 140 mph...:wtf
 
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MrLister said:
the whole sound thing at a race track, in my opinion, is ridiculous.

I think the golden rule is at work here "He who has the gold, makes the rules"
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Tell me something I haven't heard 5000 times in 20 years. I don't support it or like it. It's what we have to deal with,
 
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