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Michelin Pilot Power 2CT

sv2007

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Joined
Jul 12, 2007
Location
Sunnyvale
Moto(s)
Majesty YP400
Bike: 07 R6
Use: 20% highways; 80% twisties/trackdays
Pace: mellow twisties; 6C/2B group trackday runs
Age: 10 months on street bike; very many heat cycles

I just replaced my first set of Michelin PP 2CTs at 3.8K miles, with 50% and 20% treads left on front/rear. I would not hesitate to continue using these tires (as I've experienced no issues on them); I only replaced them because I have another set in my garage since Feb and wanted to clean my garage.

During those 3.8k miles these tires offered excellent grip at 38/38 psi on the streets/twisties (sometimes running 36/36 psi when doing "spirited" speeds, not often) and 31/30 psi on the track. No slips or other issues due to them; always predictable.

The dual compound really works to get the tires even wear, same good grip through the tire life plus the extra assurance of more grip on the edges (although I don't know if I had ever needed the extra traction, but it is good to know that it's there). In fact, when I took them off, they had a bit more tread in the center than sides.

Previously I've used Dunlop Qualifiers (single compound) tires, and they did not wear evenly (center wore out first) and I felt their grip lessen with use (I replaced my Qualifiers at 4K miles (running 36/36 psi on street/twisties and 32/32psi on track) and they were definitely done by then (nearly at the wear bars both front and rear).

Given the longivity and good performance of these PP2CTs tires, I'd definitely recommend them. Although they are a bit more expensive to run, but I feel because these PP2CTs offered the same, good grip through out their life, they are a good value.
 
Good tires, good report.

38psi is ok but a tad high for a middle weight 400 pound sport bike.

High end 39-42psi pressures are more appropriate for heavy +600 pounds sport-touring bikes.

Have you experimented with other pressures in the 32-37 psi range? Maybe try and see how it feels. If you like the feel of 38psi that's good too.
 
Good tires, good report.

38psi is ok but a tad high for a middle weight 400 pound sport bike.

High end 39-42psi pressures are more appropriate for heavy +600 pounds sport-touring bikes.

Have you experimented with other pressures in the 32-37 psi range? Maybe try and see how it feels. If you like the feel of 38psi that's good too.

I haven't really tried anything other pressures besides the ones I mentioned.

I went w/ 38/38 because I was coming off the Qualifiers which I've been running 36/36; I upped the pressure to take advantage of the softer sides of the PP2CTs, just based on "guessing". At the time, I planned to decrease pressure as needed, but I've not experienced any slips or anything so I just kept it at 38/38. I'm a believer in not trying to save tires by runing them at a higher pressure, so I would't run 38/38 if I had any issues.

As for the 31/30 track pressure, I got those off the Perilli sheet at the 1st trackday w/ these tires. That pressure seems to work for me so I never experimented much. The tire wear looks very good and no issues, so I just stayed w/ those pressures.

I think you are correct though in mentioning 38/38 as being high. I was surprised myself that I'm running 38/38 w/o problems. So, I'd like to suggest people go 31/30 and move up from there, maybe that's a good conservative start. (vs. trying 38/38 and moving down)
 
I used the 2ct for track only purposes, and I felt like it was great tire for a C group to mid B group pace. Very predictable tire, and enough grip, nice smooth turn in... and lasted 6 + trackdays at my pace.

I never really ran them on the street so I can not comment there.

On track I was running these 35 front and 34 rear. I had gotten these pressures with the help off Dave Moss... I used to run them too low, and I think I was cold tearing them or hot tearing them. Not sure...
 
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