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Show us your Cadillac!

Before the CST-V, I always wanted an XLR. Really bummed they discontinued those after one generation.

Never got either, though, but we picked up something for my wife this last summer. I’ve never had a “nice” car before. It makes even a mundane errand more enjoyable.

‘17 ESV premium luxury. We’d been looking for months for a Yukon XL Denali 4x4 after we rented one to bomb out to NE Utah to pick up our puppy and there were just none anywhere. This popped up and it’s basically the same price so we went for it.
 

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Before the CST-V, I always wanted an XLR. Really bummed they discontinued those after one generation.

Never got either, though,

You dodged a bullet. The stuff that goes wrong on those things and what it costs to fix? You may as well have just gotten the gold standard of the segment and gone with the SL500.

In just the barely a year I worked for Cadillac, I lost count of how many folding top problems (water leaks or the operation) I saw on those damn things. Plus the Northstar engine is a bit of a leak factory.
 
You dodged a bullet. The stuff that goes wrong on those things and what it costs to fix? You may as well have just gotten the gold standard of the segment and gone with the SL500.

In just the barely a year I worked for Cadillac, I lost count of how many folding top problems (water leaks or the operation) I saw on those damn things. Plus the Northstar engine is a bit of a leak factory.

Plus the XLR tailights are unobtanium.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311&_nkw=xlr+tail+light&_sacat=0
 
You dodged a bullet. The stuff that goes wrong on those things and what it costs to fix? You may as well have just gotten the gold standard of the segment and gone with the SL500.

In just the barely a year I worked for Cadillac, I lost count of how many folding top problems (water leaks or the operation) I saw on those damn things. Plus the Northstar engine is a bit of a leak factory.

Sad truth! :( Really nice looking car.
Seriously looked at a few about five years ago, all had signs of oil leaks, some worse than others. The Tops, three cars had issues, one never did.

Parts, YIKES! Here's a snippet from GMAuthority (this was a year ago):
"Individual taillamp assemblies are going for anywhere between $1,500 and $3,000 on eBay, while online parts suppliers ranged as high as $3,500."
 
You dodged a bullet. The stuff that goes wrong on those things and what it costs to fix? You may as well have just gotten the gold standard of the segment and gone with the SL500.

In just the barely a year I worked for Cadillac, I lost count of how many folding top problems (water leaks or the operation) I saw on those damn things. Plus the Northstar engine is a bit of a leak factory.

Yes, the XLR looked to me like how the SL should have looked before they completely rounded them out. I loved the angular look, there really isn’t much like it. Imagine it now with the LS and modern suspension tech...
 
Yes, the XLR looked to me like how the SL should have looked before they completely rounded them out. I loved the angular look, there really isn’t much like it. Imagine it now with the LS and modern suspension tech...

I like the angular look too. Cadillac moved away from it.

It was called "Art and Science."

Trivia - the CTS debuted on Matrix Reloaded, part of which was shot in Alameda.

[YOUTUBE]WBCQ0_ZNJf8[/YOUTUBE]
 
You dodged a bullet. The stuff that goes wrong on those things and what it costs to fix? You may as well have just gotten the gold standard of the segment and gone with the SL500.

In just the barely a year I worked for Cadillac, I lost count of how many folding top problems (water leaks or the operation) I saw on those damn things. Plus the Northstar engine is a bit of a leak factory.

This sounds like the perfect car for 24hours of lemons. The Allantè fanboys went nuts the first time one raced. It was hilarious
 
This sounds like the perfect car for 24hours of lemons. The Allantè fanboys went nuts the first time one raced. It was hilarious

Allante!

[YOUTUBE]IRaaOEvDXgA[/YOUTUBE]
 

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They had a real chance with the ELR, but aimed too low on the performance and too high on the price. Beautiful car, I see one around here and it still garners attention.

I hope Cadillac rethinks hybrids in the future.

My wife drove the purchase of the car and I was skeptical. It turned out to be a really good car. While I wouldn’t consider it a sports sedan, it isn’t slow. The 2016 was given a little more power and top speed (I can confirm the top speed). The active suspension does a great job in normal as well as ‘sport’ mode. Curiously the 2016 also has ‘Competition’ mode. No one knows for sure exactly what changes when it is selected.

The car does have a few quirks that annoy me. The biggest being that it will switch on the brake lights when going down hill with the cruise control engaged. I reached out to a friend at GM in mid 2016 to see if he could put me in touch with someone at Cadillac to have that shut off. He got back to me saying that the entire ELR team was reassigned in early 2016 and no one was responding to his/my request.

3300 were made in 2 years (2014 & 2016) with only 523 made in 2016. I’m a bit concerned with parts availability, but at this point we don’t plan on getting rid of the car.
 
This sounds like the perfect car for 24hours of lemons. The Allantè fanboys went nuts the first time one raced. It was hilarious

That was another dumpster fire for Cadillac. They told me that every single one immediately came back after delivery with laundry lists of issues. Got to the point where the owner of the store just had the tech take possession of the car for a few days as soon as it rolled off the truck and put a couple hundred miles on them to to flush out all issues and fix them before actually allowing the car to be sold.
 
What about the catera? The caddy that zigs :laughing

They used the French made GM 4L30e transmission which was notorious junk lol
 
That was another dumpster fire for Cadillac. They told me that every single one immediately came back after delivery with laundry lists of issues. Got to the point where the owner of the store just had the tech take possession of the car for a few days as soon as it rolled off the truck and put a couple hundred miles on them to to flush out all issues and fix them before actually allowing the car to be sold.

I really like the aesthetics, same with the xlr.

Forst time I recall noticing the allante was when Gary busey caracheter in some movie was convinced it was collectible because: pinnfarina and as the bad guy took it with him on his escape cargo plane. The car got dumped out the back, dont recall if it was intended or was the thematic device signaling the bad guy had been served his comeuppance. It was hilarious
 
The Catera and Cimarron, right up there with the Pontiac Aztec. WTF was GM thinking when they allowed that shit?!
 
Moving the pendulum back to some of Cadillac's very cool and pretty successful racing cars.

2000 and 2002 Le Mans Prototype cars with the Northstar engines.

(From Wiki) - A highly modified 650 hp (485 kW) version of this engine was used by General Motors racing division initially for Indy Racing League competition starting in 1995, then was later used in the Cadillac Northstar LMP program in 2000. Both engines retained the 4.0 L capacity, but the Northstar LMP version was twin-turbocharged. The engine for the Northstar LMP was based on a smaller 4.0 Liter variant of the Northstar used in Cadillacs, known as the L47, used in GM's Oldsmobile Aurora sedan. It had already been adapted for racing in 1995 for use in the Indy Racing League, but was thoroughly modified in order to not only increase power, but increase longevity. McLaren Engines assisted in the development of the new prototype engine, while Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries (IHI) produced twin turbochargers to increase output.

After the 2002 season GM Motorsports group dropped the LMP cars to focus their efforts on the Corvette.

But that was all to change in 2017!
 

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In 2004, Cadillac entered the ultra-competitive SCCA Pro Racing World Challenge GT Championship with the CTS-V Sedan. From their debut in 2004 to 2007, Team Cadillac CTS-V Sedans won a Manufacturer’s Championship (2005), a Driver’s Championship (Andy Pilgrim, 2005), had 10 wins, seven pole position starts and 36 podium finishes, including wins.

Cadillac returned to professional racing in 2011 with two CTS-V Coupes in the ultra-competitive Pirelli World Challenge GT Series with seasoned drivers Johnny O’Connelll and Andy Pilgrim. In 2011, the team posted two wins, Mid-Ohio and Road Atlanta, to prove the competitiveness of the new Standard of the World race cars.

2004 CTS-V Sedan (Gen 1) and 2011 CTS-V Coupe (Gen 2).

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In 2004, Cadillac entered the ultra-competitive SCCA Pro Racing World Challenge GT Championship with the CTS-V Sedan. From their debut in 2004 to 2007, Team Cadillac CTS-V Sedans won a Manufacturer’s Championship (2005), a Driver’s Championship (Andy Pilgrim, 2005), had 10 wins, seven pole position starts and 36 podium finishes, including wins.

Cadillac returned to professional racing in 2011 with two CTS-V Coupes in the ultra-competitive Pirelli World Challenge GT Series with seasoned drivers Johnny O’Connelll and Andy Pilgrim. In 2011, the team posted two wins, Mid-Ohio and Road Atlanta, to prove the competitiveness of the new Standard of the World race cars.

2004 CTS-V Sedan (Gen 1) and 2011 CTS-V Coupe (Gen 2).

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Nice! I'm a fan of the Gen 2 CTS for obvious reasons. Although a Gen 3 CTS-V would be nice if I wasn't saving up to buy a house, LOL!!!
 
Ha, ha... Someone on here has the caption something like: "You can sleep in your car, but you can can't race a house".
Just kidding ya. Go for the house, it's the better option!

I had the opportunity to drive the Gen 3, CTS V and the ATS V at Daytona on the 3.56 mile road course. Unbelievable experience. Both cars are just phenomenal and fun!!!
 
I had the opportunity to drive the Gen 3, CTS V and the ATS V at Daytona on the 3.56 mile road course. Unbelievable experience. Both cars are just phenomenal and fun!!!

Damn you.. :laughing

That is awesome. Very jelly.

At first I was like... what about the brakes???
Then realized... Daytona road course is not huge braking but still.
I wonder if they did anything special to them?

When I did THill I put in high temp brake pads and high temp fluid, but still had them steaming when I came off. Enchanter pointed that out.. "Go cruise the pits to cool them off!"
 
Ha, ha... Someone on here has the caption something like: "You can sleep in your car, but you can can't race a house".
Just kidding ya. Go for the house, it's the better option!

I had the opportunity to drive the Gen 3, CTS V and the ATS V at Daytona on the 3.56 mile road course. Unbelievable experience. Both cars are just phenomenal and fun!!!

LOL - so tempting!!!!!

If I had put a little money into BTC a couple years ago, I would be golden!
 
From what I can find the Gen 3 CTS V's (2016) went to a little larger front rotor: Fronts 390mm/15.35", Gen 2's were 380mm/15". Larger size was probably due to the jump in horsepower up to 640.

Cars at Daytona were changed to hi-temp pads and fluid, otherwise "stock". Tires were the Michelin Pilot Super Sports, same as what you got when you got the car from the dealer.

Really high brake points, where you had to dump a lot of speed, were coming down the front section into Turn One onto the "road course" section and then hard on the throttle out of 6 up through 7 and down the back straight and on the brakes before making the turn into 8. If you hit the apex's through 8, 9, 10, and 11 you can carry a lot of speed up into and around 12.

It's absolutely a rush and crazy fun cause the big corners (7 & 12) are banked at 31 degrees and the front section is 18 degrees. :teeth

The big CTS V's just pull so hard coming out of the big corners and down the straights and were still wicked fast through the infield sections, although the ATS V's had a bit more, shall we say, finesse, through the twisties.

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Lots of air time to cool the brake compared to THill.

High speed air time!!

Had to be a blast. :cool

How fast was the top speed?
 
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